DavidPT
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My point is that for the good thief to have visited paradise with Our Lord on the 24-hour day they died, the good thief or part of him would have needed to survive his physical death. The Bible doesn't tell me that the good thief died and resurrected on that day. Since Our Lord's body lay in the tomb for three days, it didn't resurrect on the first one either.
The good thief may have meant he wanted Our Lord to remember him when he, Christ, returned to heaven. And that's compatible with their visit to paradise, even if heaven and paradise are different places. The new Jerusalem might include holy souls who return with Jesus during his second coming If they come with him, I'm sure we'll see them somehow, though disembodied souls don't occupy space.
Evidence for the doctrine about purgatory and the immortality of the soul
From what I've read, it seems the soul sleep doctrine is a 19th-century novelty.
As to soul sleep, that has never been my position, yet sometimes I have to wonder why not? For example, I don't see the following making logical sense unless soul sleep is maybe true. I'm just trying to be objective here is all.
John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
The ones He was talking to at the time, they are obviously dead by now, and that He was obviously including them. Meaning verse 3 makes zero sense if they are already in heaven once they died, which would mean they are already where He is, yet the text states that He first has to come again, and then He receives them unto Himself, then where He is, there they may be also.
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