A conversation about unity.

[ARBITER01]

And, again, you missed the MOST important which is unity in Christ. He happens to be the reason for anything we do and the existential reason for ALL of our churches. Do you think that your definition of unity is going to get you to Heaven any different than us poor Protestants?

They are not seeking unity with Jesus, they are seeking unity with their doctrine.

 

[A New Dawn]

I know when Jesus is teaching me things, and this is not one of those times.

This may not be one of those teachable moments, but it might still be wise to pray that people will come to an understanding of unity the way God would like to see it embraced.

 

[childeye 2]

Unity requires three things at least.

1. unity in doctrine
2. unity in sacraments
3. unity in governance

Protestants vary in their views of all three so unity with all the various Protestant groups hasn't happened among the Protestants and one cannot expect unity with Catholics in that state.

The simplicity of abiding in Christ <---His body, the Catholic/Universal Church:
Unity in the Holy Spirit = Love God with all your heart mind and soul and love your neighbor as yourself.

John 13:33-35

33 Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you.

34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

1 John 2:5-10

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.

9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

And, again, you missed the MOST important which is unity in Christ.

You mentioned that before - but if one is a Christian then one is in Christ and hence there is as much unity as that allows.

He happens to be the reason for anything we do and the existential reason for ALL of our churches.

Yet being a Christian doesn't mean we agree on doctrine, sacraments, and governance does it?

Do you think that your definition of unity is going to get you to Heaven any different than us poor Protestants?

Why do you think that church unity has anything whatever to do with Protestants going to heaven?