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A Complete Skull from Dmanisi

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I think that science should have a broad spectrum of samples of creatures, before making big claims based on fragmentary evidence.

If a skull of early post flood man was indeed different, fine. However if all we have is some fragmentary evidence based on precious little fact and a lot of evo doctrine, golly gee, how can we know if it was an ape, chimp or early post flood man? - (There are no remains, if I understand it, of pre flood man, and even very early post flood man, as that was apparently not in this present state and nature)

All they have ever shown me is a few similarities. I think that is all they have. That and a lot of imagination.
 
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The site of Dmanisi, Georgia, has yielded an impressive sample of hominid cranial and postcranial remains, documenting the presence of Homo outside Africa around 1.8 million years ago.

Dear Mark, The Dmanisi Skull is a good example of the remains of the sons of God (prehistoric man) and NOT Humans. The current false theories, being totally incomplete, don't know that the world of Adam was totally destroyed in the Flood. ll Peter 3:3-7 tells us that these "Scoffers of the last days" are Willingly Ignorant that the world that THEN WAS was totally destroyed in the Flood and the heavens and earth WHICH ARE NOW will be burned.

For this reason, today's Scientists prefer to accept the False ToE, instead of God's Holy Word...and they will NOT change their minds, no matter how much evidence is presented to them. To do so would mean that they have recognized the Lies that they have been force teaching our children.

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Back when the whole Evolution/Creation thing was going strong I got some head trip discussions going on the Dmanisi fossils. They were found in Russian Georgia and up until now have seemed rather ambitious. Finally they dug an intact, almost complete skull up and it's a beauty. I was wondering if anyone on here was still into fossils.
The site of Dmanisi, Georgia, has yielded an impressive sample of hominid cranial and postcranial remains, documenting the presence of Homo outside Africa around 1.8 million years ago. Here we report on a new cranium from Dmanisi (D4500) that, together with its mandible (D2600), represents the world's first completely preserved adult hominid skull from the early Pleistocene. D4500/D2600 combines a small braincase (546 cubic centimeters) with a large prognathic face and exhibits close morphological affinities with the earliest known Homo fossils from Africa. The Dmanisi sample, which now comprises five crania, provides direct evidence for wide morphological variation within and among early Homo paleodemes. This implies the existence of a single evolving lineage of early Homo, with phylogeographic continuity across continents. Science 18 October 2013
I heard about it on NPR, thought it might make for interesting conversation.

Fossil Find Points To A Streamlined Human Lineage

Your thoughts....


Oh my, oh my, a compete whole skull? Why from this one single skull and some fragments, we will deduce an entire evolutionary line. Appearance changes my man, not transitional. Living examples right before your eyes in cats and dogs. Changes in appearance, yet still cats and dogs. If we had not manipulated thru selective breeding all the appearance changes in a few generations in cats and dogs that might otherwise have taken millions of years I could understand evolutionists simple mistake. But they have living evidence right before their very eyes, observational and genetic evidence that kind change appearance thru environmental or selective breeding, but always remain of that same kind.

Any theory that goes against the observational evidence has already been falsified before it even starts. They are no more a previous transitional class than a poodle is a transitional species between wolf and pug. Merely different appearances of the same kind. This is what the fossil record has always shown, just as the living evidence before our very eyes shows. Change in appearance of the same kind, not transitional from one species to the next.

Do all dogs look the same? Cats? Birds? Then why would you expect anything less in the human family tree?
 
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Oh my, oh my, a compete whole skull? Why from this one single skull and some fragments, we will deduce an entire evolutionary line. Appearance changes my man, not transitional. Living examples right before your eyes in cats and dogs. Changes in appearance, yet still cats and dogs. If we had not manipulated thru selective breeding all the appearance changes in a few generations in cats and dogs that might otherwise have taken millions of years I could understand evolutionists simple mistake. But they have living evidence right before their very eyes, observational and genetic evidence that kind change appearance thru environmental or selective breeding, but always remain of that same kind.

Any theory that goes against the observational evidence has already been falsified before it even starts. They are no more a previous transitional class than a poodle is a transitional species between wolf and pug. Merely different appearances of the same kind. This is what the fossil record has always shown, just as the living evidence before our very eyes shows. Change in appearance of the same kind, not transitional from one species to the next.

Do all dogs look the same? Cats? Birds? Then why would you expect anything less in the human family tree?



If its the same discovery than i think the complete skull they found was with another 4 skulls. I think there were 2 nearly complete and another 3 part complete. They had various sizes in the brain cavities and there was a wide variety of features. They now think that there were only 1 or 2 branches instead of the several as these skulls cover all the skulls they have discovered in the one plot.

The genetic evidence they refer to for proof of evolution, that is natural selection is now in question with recent discoveries. It seems its not as simple as passing traits down a vertical line one to the other but we are also influenced side ways from our environment.

Why everything you've been told about evolution is wrong | Science | The Guardian
 
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Dear Mark, The Dmanisi Skull is a good example of the remains of the sons of God (prehistoric man) and NOT Humans.

Looking for a humor thread? Or would you like to prove that claim? Good luck with that.
 
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No. I have missed nothing......but, unfortunately, you have missed everything....!

The key point that you ignore is that that evil book of yours is supposed to contain the unchanging, immutable, universal moral code of your god...!
So? The code for a time and place and people who lived with the reality of slaves should make allowances for reality.
If that's the case, why did its code change...?? Did it make a mistake, change its mind, what....?

The code? Well, if you mean how Israel was to try to live with the realities of slaves at one time in their history, obviously that had to change! Israel went into slavery itself! You might as well ask why that changed.
"Oops....got that one wrong people....from now on, no more slaves....right!"
Wrong. There are slaves and will be a lot more soon. That is how Satan and his people are, and they just about have the floor for their final act now.
If you are saying that it changes its view on these things depending upon the time and the situation it is dealing with, then why do we need its guidance at all....?

Because we have a lick of sense, and can tell when immortal truths are uttered, or when bylaws of a day gone by are referenced!
We can make our own way in determining what is 'right' and 'wrong'......which is exactly what we do...!
No. God spells it out pretty well. Don't try to use God as an excuse for sinning as desired.
 
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They weren't allowed to treat them as they please there was a whole lot of rules and regulations.
Well, in the world at large slavery was a part of life. Obviously the people of God would have a kinder and gentler way to treat slaves than the run of the mill Joe Pagan.
 
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Well, in the world at large slavery was a part of life. Obviously the people of God would have a kinder and gentler way to treat slaves than the run of the mill Joe Pagan.

I haven't really gone right into the circumstances of the slavery in the bible times so i am no authority on the subject. From what i understand there seems to be some harsh treatment on face value. When you go into it and read it in context it seems to be using examples of different situation and how to apply the laws. When it says if a slave is beaten or if this situation happens then you should do this. It is talking about all the possible scenarios not that they actually do it. Its the same for our law, different degrees of breaking the laws and the different punishments that apply.

The fact that there were many other references saying to treat a slave or as they were called back then a bond servant is good. It mentions that even if you damage the servants eye or tooth ( I am assuming this also applies to hand, fingers, legs, feet ect.) then you must set them free shows this contradicts any beating that some people say they do in the name of god. How can you beat a slave for punishment and would more than likely damage him and not risk losing that servant in the first place.

Put this together with all the other verses that talk about good treatment of servants and it seems the evidence is greater for the good treatment of servants rather than bad treatment. So i would say that people read this out of context and grab onto it as a way of using it as an example to show how bad god is to make their case. IE the verses that say good treatment out weigh any notion of bad treatment but they never mention those. It would only be fair to acknowledge that this is the fact.
 
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No chimpanzee ancestors but an awful lot of chimpanzee skulls passed off as our ancestors. It's pretty obvious.

No offense, Mark, but, I think that is just wishful thinking on your part, e.g., your faith talking. There is a clear pattern in these skulls including the skulls from Dmanisi, e.g., larger brain case, smaller canines, etc., as they become more and more recent. People who do this stuff for a living know the difference between emerging human features and emerging chimpanzee features .... unless you are a conspiracy theorist .... which is another avenue of wishful thinking.
 
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I haven't really gone right into the circumstances of the slavery in the bible times so i am no authority on the subject. From what i understand there seems to be some harsh treatment on face value. When you go into it and read it in context it seems to be using examples of different situation and how to apply the laws. When it says if a slave is beaten or if this situation happens then you should do this. It is talking about all the possible scenarios not that they actually do it. Its the same for our law, different degrees of breaking the laws and the different punishments that apply.
Right, God knows sinners. Give em a slave and there is bound to be misuse. So Israel had some checks and balances to deal with the practices and realities of the world of that day.



The fact that there were many other references saying to treat a slave or as they were called back then a bond servant is good. It mentions that even if you damage the servants eye or tooth ( I am assuming this also applies to hand, fingers, legs, feet ect.) then you must set them free shows this contradicts any beating that some people say they do in the name of god. How can you beat a slave for punishment and would more than likely damage him and not risk losing that servant in the first place.
Right...as above.
Put this together with all the other verses that talk about good treatment of servants and it seems the evidence is greater for the good treatment of servants rather than bad treatment. So i would say that people read this out of context and grab onto it as a way of using it as an example to show how bad god is to make their case. IE the verses that say good treatment out weigh any notion of bad treatment but they never mention those. It would only be fair to acknowledge that this is the fact.
Right, there are many the seek to find anything to accuse God or His people or His word with. That is life. Don't take em too seriously...we know God is good. They know Him not.

It is the devil's job 1 to convince man that God doesn't really love him, and that He is a liar, and merciless, cruel, etc. Ho hum.
 
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No offense, Mark, but, I think that is just wishful thinking on your part, e.g., your faith talking. There is a clear pattern in these skulls including the skulls from Dmanisi, e.g., larger brain case, smaller canines, etc., as they become more and more recent. People who do this stuff for a living know the difference between emerging human features and emerging chimpanzee features .... unless you are a conspiracy theorist .... which is another avenue of wishful thinking.
An appeal to blind faith and trust. No those people know precious little. They may have some criteria that they use to classify some silly skull as 'human ancestor'...but that is religion.
 
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Aman:>>Dear Mark, The Dmanisi Skull is a good example of the remains of the sons of God (prehistoric man) and NOT Humans.

Looking for a humor thread? Or would you like to prove that claim? Good luck with that.

Dear dad, Of course. The sons of God (Prehistoric people) were created and brought forth from the water on Day 5. Genesis 1:21 shows that "every living creature that moveth" was brought forth from water and Science agrees, since man is 70% water and the cells within our bodies cannot live without liquid water. The sons of God "moved" as is shown in Job. Job 1 (Blue Letter Bible: KJV - King James Version)

Some CLAIM that the sons of God were the offspring of the fallen Angels and humans, but this is refuted Scripturally by the Scriptural Fact that Jesus tells us the Angels do NOT marry nor are given in marriage Mat 22:30 and they are reserved in chains under the earth, Jud 1:6 thus could not have appeared in Job.

Cain married one of these people and passed the human intelligence of Adam to their descendants. Genesis 4 shows that Cain's descendants had agriculture, tent building, smelting and other traits of today's Humans.

Genesis 6:4 shows that when you mix the sons of God with the daughters of men (Heb-Adam) mighty men, men of renown are produced. This verse shows that this happened on Adam's Earth and prophecies "and also after that", and the prophecy was fulfilled on our Planet when Noah's grandsons had NO other humans to marry. They married and produced children with the prehistoric people whose bones are found on our Planet for millions of years BEFORE Noah arrived.

Today's Humans are the combination of Adam's descendants and the sons of God, who were brought forth from the water on our Planet. Proof is shown because today's Humans have the unique human intelligence of Adam, which ONLY Adam and God have. Gen 3:22 We also have the DNA and ERVs of the common ancestor of Apes.

If you don't believe me, please tell us HOW we inherited the human intelligence which was unique to Adam AND the DNA of the common ancestor of Apes. We also lost 90% of our lifetimes when we intermarried with the sons of God. Gen 6:3

As you can see, it's easy to confirm that Cain and Noah's grandsons, married and produced today's Humans with each other. This will also be confirmed when we travel into Space and find prehistoric people whereever we find liquid water. Comments?

In Love,
Aman
 
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An appeal to blind faith and trust. No those people know precious little. They may have some criteria that they use to classify some silly skull as 'human ancestor'...but that is religion.

Of course .... otherwise you would have to consider what they say as a real possibility ... and we can't have that. :thumbsup:
 
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Dear dad, Of course. The sons of God (Prehistoric people) were created and brought forth from the water on Day 5. Genesis 1:21 shows that "every living creature that moveth" was brought forth from water and Science agrees, since man is 70% water and the cells within our bodies cannot live without liquid water. The sons of God "moved" as is shown in Job. Job 1 (Blue Letter Bible: KJV - King James Version)
Man like creatures spawned from the sea one day!!? Get serious.
Some CLAIM that the sons of God were the offspring of the fallen Angels and humans, but this is refuted Scripturally by the Scriptural Fact that Jesus tells us the Angels do NOT marry nor are given in marriage Mat 22:30 and they are reserved in chains under the earth, Jud 1:6 thus could not have appeared in Job.
Leaving that weak argument aside, to avoid spending too long wandering from the topic, we do not need to get into how the angels behave sexually here.
Cain married one of these people and passed the human intelligence of Adam to their descendants. Genesis 4 shows that Cain's descendants had agriculture, tent building, smelting and other traits of today's Humans.
Genesis does not say that Cain either married a sea spawned man like creature, nor that the intelligence man (including Cain) had was due to such absurd things. Total pure uncut imagination.
Genesis 6:4 shows that when you mix the sons of God with the daughters of men (Heb-Adam) mighty men, men of renown are produced. This verse shows that this happened on Adam's Earth and prophecies "and also after that", and the prophecy was fulfilled on our Planet when Noah's grandsons had NO other humans to marry.

Don't harp on one verse and build a mountain out of it. Nowhere does it say Noah's offspring had no one to marry! God knew to put 8 people in the ark, and He did not make a mistake. Such foolish speculation is actually cultish. Something is not right here.

They married and produced children with the prehistoric people whose bones are found on our Planet for millions of years BEFORE Noah arrived.
Lie. The flood killed all people, whether you want to pretend they were sea spawned additions to the race or not! As for your millions of years claim, that is lame.
Today's Humans are the combination of Adam's descendants and the sons of God, who were brought forth from the water on our Planet.

Lie. Do not present wild speculation totally unbased in scripture as fact.
Proof is shown because today's Humans have the unique human intelligence of Adam, which ONLY Adam and God have. Gen 3:22 We also have the DNA and ERVs of the common ancestor of Apes.

Trying to explain the dna carried down as originating with strange man like creatures from some lagoon or sea is neither science nor bible actually. It is not even a lower mediocre quality fable.
If you don't believe me, please tell us HOW we inherited the human intelligence which was unique to Adam AND the DNA of the common ancestor of Apes. We also lost 90% of our lifetimes when we intermarried with the sons of God. Gen 6:3
Intelligence was what we were created with. By the way, no one inherited anything from ape ancestors. You merely assume that birth was the medium of evolution and passing viri around, etc..as it may well NOW be.
As you can see, it's easy to confirm that Cain and Noah's grandsons, married and produced today's Humans with each other.
Attributing smarts to creatures from some lost lagoon may be easy, but it is insane also. Not bible, not science.

This will also be confirmed when we travel into Space and find prehistoric people whereever we find liquid water. Comments?

Good luck with that! Say hi to Captain Kirk.
 
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Of course .... otherwise you would have to consider what they say as a real possibility ... and we can't have that. :thumbsup:
You advocated trusting them, not because you know the facts, but because you believe they golly gee just must know. What they claim about the past is not a possibility, not even good fiction, and has NO basis in fact. Just religious twaddle.
 
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Originally Posted by Aman777
Dear dad, Of course. The sons of God (Prehistoric people) were created and brought forth from the water on Day 5. Genesis 1:21 shows that "every living creature that moveth" was brought forth from water and Science agrees, since man is 70% water and the cells within our bodies cannot live without liquid water. The sons of God "moved" as is shown in Job. Job 1 (Blue Letter Bible: KJV - King James Version)
Man like creatures spawned from the sea one day!!? Get serious.

Dear Dad, They were not only man like, but could produce children with Adam's descendants. Genesis 6:4 BTW, they were created and brought forth from the water and not the Sea. This agrees with today's Science which shows that the cells within our body cannot live without liquid water.

Some CLAIM that the sons of God were the offspring of the fallen Angels and humans, but this is refuted Scripturally by the Scriptural Fact that Jesus tells us the Angels do NOT marry nor are given in marriage Mat 22:30 and they are reserved in chains under the earth, Jud 1:6 thus could not have appeared in Job.
Leaving that weak argument aside, to avoid spending too long wandering from the topic, we do not need to get into how the angels behave sexually here.

Just wanted to answer those who do believe that the sons of God were the offspring of Angels.

Cain married one of these people and passed the human intelligence of Adam to their descendants. Genesis 4 shows that Cain's descendants had agriculture, tent building, smelting and other traits of today's Humans.

Genesis does not say that Cain either married a sea spawned man like creature, nor that the intelligence man (including Cain) had was due to such absurd things. Total pure uncut imagination.

Genesis 3:22 tells us that Adam had the ability to know both good and evil which ONLY God has. Adam had the mind of God because he was meant to live forever, and will, in the third heaven. Today, we call this ability, Human intelligence.

Genesis 6:4 shows that when you mix the sons of God with the daughters of men (Heb-Adam) mighty men, men of renown are produced. This verse shows that this happened on Adam's Earth and prophecies "and also after that", and the prophecy was fulfilled on our Planet when Noah's grandsons had NO other humans to marry.

Don't harp on one verse and build a mountain out of it. Nowhere does it say Noah's offspring had no one to marry! God knew to put 8 people in the ark, and He did not make a mistake. Such foolish speculation is actually cultish. Something is not right here.

Scripture shows that Noah's grandsons had NO other humans to marry, just like Cain. The first Earth was destroyed in the flood and NOT the present heaven and earth. You are confusing everyone dying on the first earth with our earth which has NEVER suffered a Global Flood. Here is the Scriptural proof:

Gen 10:1Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.


They married and produced children with the prehistoric people whose bones are found on our Planet for millions of years BEFORE Noah arrived.

Lie. The flood killed all people, whether you want to pretend they were sea spawned additions to the race or not! As for your millions of years claim, that is lame.

It's the Truth since the theology of ancient men was wrong. Try to make the traditional religious story agree with Scripture. You cannot.
Today's Humans are the combination of Adam's descendants and the sons of God, who were brought forth from the water on our Planet.
Lie. Do not present wild speculation totally unbased in scripture as fact.

Then you must tell us WHERE we got the DNA of the common ancestor of Apes. Scripture does, but you dismiss it because it doesn't fit your view.
Proof is shown because today's Humans have the unique human intelligence of Adam, which ONLY Adam and God have. Gen 3:22 We also have the DNA and ERVs of the common ancestor of Apes.
Trying to explain the dna carried down as originating with strange man like creatures from some lagoon or sea is neither science nor bible actually. It is not even a lower mediocre quality fable.

I'm not trying to tell you that God created creatures from some lagoon. That is YOUR view, not mine. You are confused.
If you don't believe me, please tell us HOW we inherited the human intelligence which was unique to Adam AND the DNA of the common ancestor of Apes. We also lost 90% of our lifetimes when we intermarried with the sons of God. Gen 6:3
Intelligence was what we were created with. By the way, no one inherited anything from ape ancestors. You merely assume that birth was the medium of evolution and passing viri around, etc..as it may well NOW be.

Amen. We have inherited the human intelligence of Adam. We also lost most of our lifetime because human blood was contaminated with creatures whose origin was in the water exactly as God told us. That is WHY we have the DNA of Mitochondrial Eve.

As you can see, it's easy to confirm that Cain and Noah's grandsons, married and produced today's Humans with each other.

Attributing smarts to creatures from some lost lagoon may be easy, but it is insane also. Not bible, not science.

Then tell us what Genesis 6:4 is saying to YOU.

This will also be confirmed when we travel into Space and find prehistoric people whereever we find liquid water. Comments?

Good luck with that! Say hi to Captain Kirk.

You're hiding behind your comedy. Come on out and try to refute me Scripturally. I welcome this from anyone.

In Love,
Aman
 
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Right, God knows sinners. Give em a slave and there is bound to be misuse. So Israel had some checks and balances to deal with the practices and realities of the world of that day.



Right...as above.

Right, there are many the seek to find anything to accuse God or His people or His word with. That is life. Don't take em too seriously...we know God is good. They know Him not.

It is the devil's job 1 to convince man that God doesn't really love him, and that He is a liar, and merciless, cruel, etc. Ho hum.

Matthew 7:15 Verse Concepts

"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
- See more at: 35 Bible verses about Satan, As Deceiver

Mathew 7.15. Beware of false prophets who come in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
 
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Right, God knows sinners. Give em a slave and there is bound to be misuse. So Israel had some checks and balances to deal with the practices and realities of the world of that day.



Right...as above.

Right, there are many the seek to find anything to accuse God or His people or His word with. That is life. Don't take em too seriously...we know God is good. They know Him not.

It is the devil's job 1 to convince man that God doesn't really love him, and that He is a liar, and merciless, cruel, etc. Ho hum.

Matthew 7:15 Verse Concepts

"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
- See more at: 35 Bible verses about Satan, As Deceiver
 
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Dear Dad, They were not only man like, but could produce children with Adam's descendants. Genesis 6:4

One problem with that. The angels did not come from the sea.
BTW, they were created and brought forth from the water and not the Sea.
So what...a lagoon??

This agrees with today's Science which shows that the cells within our body cannot live without liquid water.
Foolishness. We can't live without air either, does this mean we come from air?

Some CLAIM that the sons of God were the offspring of the fallen Angels and humans, but this is refuted Scripturally by the Scriptural Fact that Jesus tells us the Angels do NOT marry nor are given in marriage Mat 22:30 and they are reserved in chains under the earth, Jud 1:6 thus could not have appeared in Job.
Others claim they were not fallen. Just because angels do not marry as we do, doesn't mean they could not be sexual does it? Heck, Solomon didn't marry as we do! We do not know enough about angels to start claiming all the stuff you do.
Cain married one of these people and passed the human intelligence of Adam to their descendants.
You do not know who Cain married. If you had said 'I think' he may have married a swamp thingie...maybe you would have sounded somewhat better.


Genesis 4 shows that Cain's descendants had agriculture, tent building, smelting and other traits of today's Humans.
Irrelevant. Adam ate fruit and had babies with Eve as we do. he talked as we do. Noah built a boat as we do...etc. In no way does making a tent or having brains mean that some water spawned man like creature had to be our dad!!! That is truly foolish, as well as against soundness of mind, and the bible.

Genesis 3:22 tells us that Adam had the ability to know both good and evil which ONLY God has.
Baloney. We are made in His image.

Adam had the mind of God because he was meant to live forever, and will, in the third heaven. Today, we call this ability, Human intelligence.
False. The current intelligence is bad in large measure, making it nothing like God! Being smart is not what makes us live forever. [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] people and even evos can live forever if they just get saved!!

Genesis 6:4 shows that when you mix the sons of God with the daughters of men (Heb-Adam) mighty men, men of renown are produced. This verse shows that this happened on Adam's Earth and prophecies "and also after that", and the prophecy was fulfilled on our Planet when Noah's grandsons had NO other humans to marry.
Lie. Noah's kids had lots of opportunity to multiply. The sons of god are generally thought to be angels. I agree. In the case of Job, the sons of god came to present themselves before God...Satan was among them. So I guess that could include the fallen sons. But sorry...no creatures from the water.


Scripture shows that Noah's grandsons had NO other humans to marry, just like Cain.
Lie.

The first Earth was destroyed in the flood and NOT the present heaven and earth.

This means what? Either the people on the earth this earth, died or not.
You are confusing everyone dying on the first earth with our earth which has NEVER suffered a Global Flood. Here is the Scriptural proof:

Gen 10:1Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.
Not eben remotely connected, let alone proof of your cultish fable.

They married and produced children with the prehistoric people whose bones are found on our Planet for millions of years BEFORE Noah arrived.
That is a dream. Just because we have some bones in the ground in no way means that it was your extra creation swamp babies!!!


It's the Truth since the theology of ancient men was wrong. Try to make the traditional religious story agree with Scripture. You cannot.
?? You lost it? Oh I sure can. Not even a challenge.



Today's Humans are the combination of Adam's descendants and the sons of God, who were brought forth from the water on our Planet.​

Vacuous claim.
Then you must tell us WHERE we got the DNA of the common ancestor of Apes. Scripture does, but you dismiss it because it doesn't fit your view.
Easy. Show us this common ancestor? What in blazes are you talking about? If you mean the transfer of ERVs, that did not require offspring in the former time
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Proof is shown because today's Humans have the unique human intelligence of Adam,​
Absurd. God never said...'Adam, only you will be smart, and have hair, and 2 feet, and speak...etc etc'

God made us with brains. This is news? Not just Adam.


Amen. We have inherited the human intelligence of Adam. We also lost most of our lifetime because human blood was contaminated with creatures whose origin was in the water exactly as God told us. That is WHY we have the DNA of Mitochondrial Eve.

Utter insanity and not even remotely related to science or the bible.




Then tell us what Genesis 6:4 is saying to YOU.

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

It seems to say angels had sex with women and had babies.
This will also be confirmed when we travel into Space and find prehistoric people whereever we find liquid water. Comments?

Speculation.
 
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