A Challenge to Christian Zionists

[Pedra]

Ok, so if I go over to Israel now and tell everyone there that God revealed to me that I am the real isreal, I’m the real Jew, God gave the land to me, then that’s all the evidence I need and they will all have to leave and give the land to me because I’m the real Heir, I’m the real Jew?

So far that is the ONLY criteria I can glean as to who is isreal and heirs to the land and who isn’t from your posts...
Whoever says they are Israel must be believed (unless they are Christians, followers and subjects of Israel’s King- then those people must NOT be Israel)

Do I have This correct?

The Bible says it , but you continue with those types of ill-fated remarks - & willfully ignore the Word of God.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Pedra said: ↑
You just showed by your quick response that you DID NOT read Romans 11 that I gave posted but You IGNORED everything I quoted in scripture and stubbornly CLING to the False teaching of Replacement Theology.

If you will search my comments on Romans 11 posted on this forum, you will find there are many.

When you point one finger at me and charge "Replacement Theology", there will be more fingers pointing back in your direction.

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He has been doing that thru-out this thread implying members are anti-Jewish and anti-Israel.
I am outta here...................

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[parousia70]

ISRAEL & the Jews & the Nation of Israel is GOD's business Not yours, He WILL fulfill the plan He has for them.

And If I'm one of them and you are NOT, then it is my business, NOT YOUR'S, right?

Seems you have been listening to Jew- hating teachers & are being anti-Semitic and trying to blame the Bible to justify that anti-Semitic attitude is like what the KKK or any cult does misusing scripture.

My Claiming citizenship in Israel and Claiming status as a Jew is Antisemitic?
How do you figure that?

Why do you not get what the Bible tells us? It's in black and white but you ignore the scriptures.

Then, by all means, educate me. Show me the scriptures that teach who is a Jew and Israelite and who is not. Otherwise, I will have to conclude that your position is that, in order to avoid falling into antisemitism, ANYONE who claims to be a Jew MUST be believed and supported in their claim, even (and especially) in absence of ANY shred of evidence, religious, genetic, cultural, or otherwise that they, in fact, ARE a Jew as the Bible defines "Jew"...

Why is there such resentment from some towards the Jews anyway?

Well, You are the one here who is resenting my personal claims to be a Jew and an Heir to the land... are you an antisemite for doing so?

Scripture tells us that GOD gave the Jews their land for their Nation & God keeps His promises and the Bible says it is HE WHO CALLED them back to their LAND which GOD Himself declared for Them and that HAS been happening since 1948 when Israel was declared a Nation.

So If I am hearing, and acting on, THAT CALL, who are you to say I'm wrong?
Who are you but an anti-semite to dare say my claims of belonging to the Jews and to Israel are wrong?

Many Jews have become believers in Christ Jesus through out the world also, the Bible says the LORD GOD will save a Remnant of Jews for Himself in the end times , they will be persecuted by the Anti-Christ but they will then be protected by GOD & in the end they will realize & recognize Christ Jesus the one they pierced (Zech 12:10 ) and will mourn but they will be Saved in the end Tribulation.

While the rest (up to 2/3) of the remainder "Jews" will be violently exterminated.... is this not what your belief holds to be true?

A remnant (1/3) will be saved and the rest (2/3) will be Destroyed...

When discussing who's views are antisemitic and who's are not, Most typically find that the view which holds out for the extermination of 2/3 of the worlds Jews sometime in our future to be the antisemitic view.

Even Hitler couldn't dream of such a lofty goal of 2/3 Jewish population wipeout that your view champions.

 

[BABerean2]

Christ Jesus the one they pierced (Zech 12:10 ) and will mourn but they will be Saved in the end Tribulation.

Zec 12:10 "And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn.

The text above was fulfilled at Calvary, and on the Day of Pentecost, based on the scripture found below.


Joh 19:34 But one of the soldiers pierced His side with a spear, and immediately blood and water came out.
Joh 19:35 And he who has seen has testified, and his testimony is true; and he knows that he is telling the truth, so that you may believe.
Joh 19:36 For these things were done that the Scripture should be fulfilled, "NOT ONE OF HIS BONES SHALL BE BROKEN."
Joh 19:37 And again another Scripture says, "THEY SHALL LOOK ON HIM WHOM THEY PIERCED."


Act 2:36 "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Men and brethren, what shall we do?"

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[parousia70]

I have to admit it is exciting to learn from folks here like @Pedra, that anyone, anyone at all, from any ethnic, cultural, religious or racial background at all, can answer the Call of God & move to Israel and profess to be a "Jew" and he/she will automatically be an Heir, FOREVER, to ALL the Land Promises of Scripture that God made EXCLUSIVELY to the Jews.

I never knew scripture taught this, and I personally have yet to see this teaching in scripture myself, but @Pedra has assured me "The Bible Says it", so It must be true.

 

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