A Biblical Defense of Bible Alone + The Anointing to Understand It

[LoveofTruth]

Do you have scripture to support this?

read my post and come in and discuss it.

 

[Dave L]

read my post and come in and discuss it.

I'm no longer interested.

 

[Dave L]

So it is not scripture "alone" or "Sola scriptura". The first primary rule is the Spirit in faith in the new creation and to live and move and understand from the new creation. This is the rule. The scriptures are a secondary rule to this though in perfect harmony with them and the Spirit will never contradict what he has spoken in scripture through men.

"15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. 16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God."(Galatians 6:15,16 KJV)

You are making too much out of nothing.

 

[LoveofTruth]

You are making too much out of nothing.

I would never say the primary rule of faith and practice is nothing.

This becomes important when some disregard immediate revelation of God and His working and speaking and leading in the spirit today and all the gifts that accompany this walk in Christ and instead many are drawn to excellency of speech and wisdom of man and a more natural rule than the supernatural.

 

[Dave L]

I would never say the primary rule of faith and practice is nothing.

This becomes important when some disregard immediate revelation of God and His working and speaking and leading in the spirit today and all the gifts that accompany this walk in Christ and instead many are drawn to excellency of speech and wisdom of man and a more natural rule than the supernatural.

You do not understand the sola scriptura position. You are attacking your own misunderstanding of it.

 

[LoveofTruth]

You do not understand the sola scriptura position. You are attacking your own misunderstanding of it.

does "sola" mean "alone". If so then you do not understand what is actually being said.

many will try to escape the consequence of things said but the truth of what they say is clear in the words.

the word "ALONE" is the issue.

This is somewhat similar to faith alone as well. Some say we are saved by faith alone. But scripture says we are "saved by grace". That's another discussion.

There is also no one man pastor over a gathering in scripture or a church building, or many other things we see today in many places. But that's another discussion. And they are all important.

 

[Dave L]

does "sola" mean "alone". If so then you do not understand what is actually being said.

many will try to escape the consequence of things said but the truth of what they say is clear in the words.

the word "ALONE" is the issue.

This is somewhat similar to faith alone as well. Some say we are saved by faith alone. But scripture says we are "saved by grace". That's another discussion.

You are misconstruing the entire subject.

 

[LoveofTruth]

You are misconstruing the entire subject.

Not so as I showed

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Most churches I know of do not think that God is absent from Scripture when they refer to Sola Scriptura. Scripture is never without God. It also leads a person to God.

I replied to this in more in-depth here.

 

[tkolter]

There is one implication of Sola Scriptura and one as a Fundamentalist I hold dear the end of any authority other than scripture which means no churches, no clergy, no theological school elitism we should only read and hold dear the Bible itself. We are all equal as 'clergy' and if we get together to worship we are all equal. The only authority is Scripture and it stands alone. That's refreshing and when I stand before a member of the clergy in their fancy church I can say: By what authority do you speak to me? I hold His word and am your equal.

 

[Tomm]

I hold dear the end of any authority other than scripture which means no churches, no clergy, no theological school elitism we should only read and hold dear the Bible itself. We are all equal as 'clergy' and if we get together to worship we are all equal. The only authority is Scripture and it stands alone.

We're all equal as clergy? And the Bible alone?
Very interesting ideas... but how come so many, many Bible-alone Christians had to ask their pastors on different issues???

Your ideas wouldn't work in the early Church (and today). The New Testament didn't exist until the 4th century, even after the Bible canon was established, books were so expensive that very few could afford it. And very few people could read at that time.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

We're all equal as clergy? And the Bible alone?
Very interesting ideas... but how come so many, many Bible-alone Christians had to ask their pastors on different issues???
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Your ideas wouldn't work in the early Church (and today). The New Testament didn't exist until the 4th century, even after the Bible canon was established, books were so expensive that very few could afford it. And very few people could read at that time.

Christians should be aware of 1 John 2:27 through studying His Word. So seeking out Pastors for answers is not really the true way to find out truth within God's Word (Especially not from most Pastors who justify sin these days). There is also no such thing as physical church building, either. It is unscriptural. There is no mention of a paid staff on salary, etc. Then again, if you are not Sola Scriptura, this is no big deal. You can add whatever crazy spiritual traditions you want to the Bible. You can carry around sun staffs, or wear fish hats, and kiss statues. Who cares if it is in the Bible. Right? Just do your own man made tradition. But didn't Jesus have a problem with men's traditions? Jesus said beware of those who go about in long flowing robes. Jesus said call no man your father upon the Earth.

 

[Tomm]

Recently didn't someone said that "we only need the Bible, we need neither the Church, nor clergymen" ???
Now can the Bible alone give us all the exact answers we need???

 

[Bible Highlighter]

First, John says in 1 John 2:27 that the brethren he was writing to did not have any need for any man to teach them because they had the anointing of the Holy Spirit. Jesus Himself said that the Holy Spirit would guide them into all truth. I believe people today are biblically illiterate because they do not honestly seek after the Spirit for the understanding on Scripture. They would rather be spoon fed by men and shut their brains off. This is because they prefer doctrines that cater to their pride and or their sinful way of thinking.

Second, I have actively sought after and prayed in finding those who truly are following Jesus like we read in the New Testament Scriptures, but I have not. I am talking about those who are doing exactly what we see in the Bible in regards to theology and obedience to His commands. Today, many really do not obey God. Most do not even know what His commandments even are. Today, we have groups who do their own thing outside the Bible. Many are Sola Scriptura and many are against it. Both groups are against the Bible in theology and righteous living. This makes sense because Jesus said, "...when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?" (Luke 18:8); And Jesus says, "But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." (Matthew 24:37).

So where is the church? I believe God's truly faithful ones are scattered in few numbers over the Earth.

 

[Neogaia777]

So where is the church? I believe God's truly faithful ones are scattered in few numbers over the Earth.

Even Jesus did not know that...?

All of three accounts BTW...

Matthew 19:25-26- "When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible."

Mark 10:26-27 "And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved? And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible."

Luke 18:26-27 "And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved? And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God."

And Elijah thought it... But was wrong, cause God told him so...

Your not alone Brother... There may be more of us than you may think... Many may just not be as "outspoken" I guess, as you or I can be, or tend to be sometimes...

God Bless!

 

[Bible Highlighter]

I believe in Sola Scriptura for many reasons based on Scripture. Also, no other book compares to the Bible. No other holy book has shown itself to be divine like the Bible. What other teachings compare or on the same divine level as God's Word? The short answer is.... None.