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I don't care anymore.
Does it really matter anymore? Can't we just move on with our lives?
Does it really matter anymore? Can't we just move on with our lives?
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Plenty of us care. If you'd like to move on with your life, then with respect I say leave these threads alone.I don't care anymore.
Does it really matter anymore? Can't we just move on with our lives?
Thanks for the explanation. I appreciate it.Just one thing to point out, for someone who hasn't dealt with Truthers before. There's a set operating procedure, one that I've pointed out here repeatedly...in which Truthers get to ask all the questions, demand answers, bombard their opponent with a mass of links straight from copy&pasting it from the conspiracy site they found it from...and then when asked to elaborate on what it means for their explanation...they refuse.
The subject changes, a la, 'Oh, well what about THIS, then?'. They typically will not stop and answer a single question about such magic appeals as thermite or controlled demolitions that have no sound. The official story is supposed to answer everything down to the tiniest detail, but the word 'thermite' is enough for them to conclude how the buildings fell otherwise. It's a game.
Their entire act is to throw as much stuff out there as possible, and even when their opponent tries to answer the questions (which takes MUCH longer than throwing out questions and bizarre speculation about thermite, etc..."it takes longer to clean up spilled milk than it does to spill it"), they're already moving on to something else.
So, some of us have dealt with this repeated psychological display over the years, numerous times...and realized that you can answer a few questions here and there, but once they start that game of jumping all over the place (see ManFromUncle's attempts to post pictures of Dick Cheney when asked a scientific question about thermite as an example), then we get tired of the charade and simply poke fun at them for this double-standard.
But we do continue to point out the flaws in their methodology when they slow down enough to listen, point out their inability to answer questions about the conspiracy, and make fun of the whole enterprise as soon as they go back to the non-sequitur style I've articulated.
As others have said, if you do not like it, you can either deal with it and stay, or give up and leave. As I said before, I actually take these things very seriously, and don't care to let Truthers treat reality like it's an episode of Jerry Springer. If that makes me a jerk, then...
Btodd
It's nonsense that people like yourself don't realize that something can be an insult without it being intended.
9/11 conspiracy talk IS an insult to me and to tens of thousands perhaps hundreds of thousands and for all I know millions of American citizens who've been so deeply affected by the events of that day. Some jerkoffs are so insensitive about the issue because they are so far removed from any truly personal connection to that day. A friend of mine lost his brother, someone I knew and played basketball with and got rides from, etc. 3 people from my hometown were killed. I grew up within sight of the World Trade Center, been there many times, have friends who worked there.
So don't go spouting crap that there's no insult when someone talks 9/11 conspiracy garbage. Capiche?
After a string of psycho-babble analysis or 911 truth advocates which proves the desperation of the disinformation operation (never, EVER address the facts,) let's get back on track. Here is a video of that "lie", Building 7. Please watch:
YouTube - ‪This is an Orange‬‏
And here is the expert testimony:
from:
WTC 7 - Gallery of Evidence
Kamal S. Obeid, structural engineer, with a masters degree in Engineering from UC Berkeley, of Fremont, California, says: "Photos of the steel, evidence about how the buildings collapsed, the unexplainable collapse of WTC 7, evidence of thermite in the debris as well as several other red flags, are quite troubling indications of well planned and controlled demolition"
Ronald H. Brookman, structural engineer, with a masters degree in Engineering from UC Davis, of Novato California, writes: "Why would all 110 stories drop straight down to the ground in about 10 seconds, pulverizing the contents into dust and ash - twice. Why would all 47 stories of WTC 7 fall straight down to the ground in about seven seconds the same day? It was not struck by any aircraft or engulfed in any fire. An independent investigation is justified for all three collapses including the surviving steel samples and the composition of the dust."
Graham John Inman, structural engineer, of London, England, points out: "WTC 7 Building could not have collapsed as a result of internal fire and external debris. NO plane hit this building. This is the only case of a steel frame building collapsing through fire in the world. The fire on this building was small & localized therefore what is the cause?"
Paul W. Mason, structural engineer, of Melbourne, Australia, argues: "In my view, the chances of the three buildings collapsing symmetrically into their own footprint, at freefall speed, by any other means than by controlled demolition, are so remote that there is no other plausible explanation!"
"In my opinion WTC7 was with the utmost probability brought down by controlled demolition done by experts" -Hugo Bachmann, Professor emeritus for structural analysis and construction at ETH and former Chairman of the Department of Structural Dynamics and Earthquake Engineering, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. (source)
After a string of psycho-babble analysis or 911 truth advocates which proves the desperation of the disinformation operation (never, EVER address the facts,) let's get back on track.
ManFromUncle said:Kamal S. Obeid, structural engineer, with a masters degree in Engineering from UC Berkeley, of Fremont, California, says: "Photos of the steel, evidence about how the buildings collapsed, the unexplainable collapse of WTC 7, evidence of thermite in the debris as well as several other red flags, are quite troubling indications of well planned and controlled demolition"
Ronald H. Brookman, structural engineer, with a masters degree in Engineering from UC Davis, of Novato California, writes: "Why would all 110 stories drop straight down to the ground in about 10 seconds, pulverizing the contents into dust and ash - twice. Why would all 47 stories of WTC 7 fall straight down to the ground in about seven seconds the same day? It was not struck by any aircraft or engulfed in any fire. An independent investigation is justified for all three collapses including the surviving steel samples and the composition of the dust."
Graham John Inman, structural engineer, of London, England, points out: "WTC 7 Building could not have collapsed as a result of internal fire and external debris. NO plane hit this building. This is the only case of a steel frame building collapsing through fire in the world. The fire on this building was small & localized therefore what is the cause?"
Paul W. Mason, structural engineer, of Melbourne, Australia, argues: "In my view, the chances of the three buildings collapsing symmetrically into their own footprint, at freefall speed, by any other means than by controlled demolition, are so remote that there is no other plausible explanation!"
"In my opinion WTC7 was with the utmost probability brought down by controlled demolition done by experts" -Hugo Bachmann, Professor emeritus for structural analysis and construction at ETH and former Chairman of the Department of Structural Dynamics and Earthquake Engineering, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. (source)
YouTube - ‪9/11 NYC Firefighters Controlled Demolition‬‏
YouTube - ‪911 truth: Demolition Pops at South Tower‬‏
The firefighters are wrong, I know, I know.
SirSpamAlot,
You claim the WTC 7 collapse was an obvious controlled demolition. Why is it that controlled demolition do not agree with you?
You don't need experts, for this one, you can believe your own eyes. But why is it all of the sudden you care what experts say?
1200 architects, engineers, demolitions professionals seem to mean nothing to you.
Or do you mean the experts at NIST who were investigated by their own profession, American Society of Civil Engineers, for accepting a large amount of money for the 911 report?
Now don't forget to include the following that is missing from your quote of me. Well? Has motive, means, and opportunity been established? If I had expressed the desire to invade Iraq repeatedly, had at my disposal airliners which could be used as weapons, and had helped steal $2.3 trillion, shouldn't I be a suspect, especially if the official collapse theory is physically impossible?
either you are a disinfo agent or you are a liar......is that clear enough english.....you stated yourself "this was the truth"
His own words say "I've been marked down as a paid disinfo agent of the NWO. "This is TRUE"..............so I say your either a paid disinfo agent or a Liar, either one can't be trustedI love hanging out in places like this. its like watching trains wreck.
I've been marked down as a paid disinfor agent of the NWO. this is true. the 911 Toofers were close, really close, to blowing the conspiracy wide open, back in 2004, on a local bulletin board in Kansas City, when a toofer blogged that we I mean They used Explodium dihydride as the super secret explosive that mimics airplanes crashing.
but we I mean They disappeared that blogger.