911 Towers Were Exploded Outwards, Not Collapsed

[Btodd]

Lol......you had to discuss it at length to try and cover up the fact you made a bogus claim.

Even if that were the case, only one of us is willing to attempt to back up our words. Nice punt.


Btodd

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

Yeah, that's a nice attempt at moving on. Unfortunately, if I ask you how to explain it, it will be punted, and you'll try to move on again.

It's like 5 years ago, all over again. I wonder why the Truth Movement is still beating its head against the wall?


Btodd

The truth movement is responsible for the revelation of many facts we would otherwise not know about. It is sad your camp is afraid of an actual investigation you reach for any and all forms of hypocrisy, demonization, and outright hilarious self righteous indignation.

 

[Btodd]

The truth movement is responsible for the revelation of many facts we would otherwise not know about. It is sad your camp is afraid of an actual investigation you reach for any and all forms of hypocrisy, demonization, and outright hilarious self righteous indignation.

So, after attributing the turn-and-descent to someone's 'intention' to hit the remodeled portion of the Pentagon, it's our fault that you can't explain that?

I knew it was our fault. You should probably get morally outraged right about now.


Btodd

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

Even if that were the case, only one of us is willing to attempt to back up our words. Nice punt.


Btodd

There is no "if" about it. You made a completely bogus claim but didn't have the basic integrity to admit it. Im betting within the next two months you will repeat the laughable claim and try to peddle the dutch video again and even if someone points out why it doesn't support your claim you will simply ignore it. Again. And again.....

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

So, after attributing the turn-and-descent to someone's 'intention' to hit the remodeled portion of the Pentagon, it's our fault that you can't explain that?

I knew it was our fault. You should probably get morally outraged right about now.


Btodd

Never said I couldn't explain....but putting words in other's mouths is par. If you complain about me not explaining it....think about the fact you made a bogus claim but refused to retract it.

 

[Btodd]

There is no "if" about it. You made a completely bogus claim but didn't have the basic integrity to admit it. Im betting within the next two months you will repeat the laughable claim and try to peddle the dutch video again and even if someone points out why it doesn't support your claim you will simply ignore it. Again. And again.....

You really don't need to be talking about integrity at all, dear.

Who 'intended' to hit the remodeled portion of the Pentagon, RealDeal? That question has nothing to do with me, and I'm going to keep asking it until you actually own up to your own pretense of integrity. I didn't force you to make such an absurd statement, nor did I force you to run away from it.


Btodd

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

You really don't need to be talking about integrity at all, dear.

Who 'intended' to hit the remodeled portion of the Pentagon, RealDeal? That question has nothing to do with me, and I'm going to keep asking it until you actually own up to your own pretense of integrity. I didn't force you to make such an absurd statement, nor did I force you to run away from it.


Btodd

You tried to explain the turn and descent on the basis of hanjour using a gps...LOL!! I offered a much more logical explanation and you don't like that. If someone of integrity asks me to explain it then I will be happy to do so.

 

[Skaloop]

You tried to explain the turn and descent on the basis of hanjour using a gps...LOL!! I offered a much more logical explanation and you don't like that. If someone of integrity asks me to explain it then I will be happy to do so.

Not sure if you consider me someone of integrity or not, but I'd like to see your explanation of who intended to hit the remodeled portion of the Pentagon.

 

[Btodd]

You tried to explain the turn and descent on the basis of hanjour using a gps...LOL!! I offered a much more logical explanation and you don't like that. If someone of integrity asks me to explain it then I will be happy to do so.

Somehow, I'll bet that whomever asks you will 'suddenly lack integrity'. Your failures are always somebody else's fault.

I articulated already why you explained nothing at all. You claimed that it was intentional to hit that part of the building, but that intention would only make sense if it were a remote-controlled flight. Hence, I keep asking you, 'who intended it'?

You can't be bothered to even admit that much! Integrity!


Btodd

 

[spiritman1]

More faulty 'all or nothing' reasoning. Any fault by the EPA concerning air quality is not proof of a 9/11 Inside Job™. Nor does the Kennedy Assassination, or any other side-issue, have any bearing on what happened on 9/11. Again, the difference between skepticism and cynicism.


Btodd

I would disagree, it shows that highly respectable government agencies, will blantantly lie to the people who pay their salaries, and tell them complete bull faced lies, The air was not safe by any standards, and men and woman were lied to and now many of them are dying as a result of that lie............and who put a post on this thread that stretched it out to the point inusable

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

Not sure if you consider me someone of integrity or not, but I'd like to see your explanation of who intended to hit the remodeled portion of the Pentagon.

We can look at basic facts and ask who was in a position to make things happen? Se know cheney and rumsfeld have a combined experience of over 25 years of operating a shadow government during a crisis. We know on 9/10/01 Rumsfeld said $2.3 trillion could not be accounted for and we know he was the Sec of Def when the accounting offices were moved in to the newly renovated wedge 1. We know Cheney was aware of a UFO flying towards the Pentagon and that he was giving real time direct military orders. So it is all pretty obvious the Pentagon strike was a remorseful attack that was designed to kill as few people as possible while invoking terror and help bury hundreds of billions of dollars.

If the terrorists had really been planning the attack for two years don't you think thy would have wanted to cause as much damage as possible? The renovation was not exactly top secret material and the hijackers had an 80% chance of hitting where the most damage would be caused but miraculously hit the first floor of the newly reinforced wedge.

 

[Btodd]

I would disagree, it shows that highly respectable government agencies, will blantantly lie to the people who pay their salaries, and tell them complete bull faced lies, The air was not safe by any standards, and men and woman were lied to and now many of them are dying as a result of that lie............and who put a post on this thread that stretched it out to the point inusable

Whether a government would do something does not have any bearing on whether or not they did. Suspicion does not count as material fact.

I don't even know what your final sentence meant, honestly.


Btodd

 

[Supreme]

Whether a government would do something does not have any bearing on whether or not they did. Suspicion does not count as material fact.

I don't even know what your final sentence meant, honestly.


Btodd

Yep. True. You can't blame the government just out of some fictional motive you have prescribed to them; you actually need solid, hard evidence before blaming the government for 9/11.

 

[Btodd]

We can look at basic facts and ask who was in a position to make things happen? Se know cheney and rumsfeld have a combined experience of over 25 years of operating a shadow government during a crisis. We know on 9/10/01 Rumsfeld said $2.3 trillion could not be accounted for and we know he was the Sec of Def when the accounting offices were moved in to the newly renovated wedge 1. We know Cheney was aware of a UFO flying towards the Pentagon and that he was giving real time direct military orders. So it is all pretty obvious the Pentagon strike was a remorseful attack that was designed to kill as few people as possible while invoking terror and help bury hundreds of billions of dollars.

If the terrorists had really been planning the attack for two years don't you think thy would have wanted to cause as much damage as possible? The renovation was not exactly top secret material and the hijackers had an 80% chance of hitting where the most damage would be caused but miraculously hit the first floor of the newly reinforced wedge.

Absolutely stunning. Your original statement came up in trying explain the turn-and-descent of the plane. Not one thing in your reply addressed the question, 'who intended to hit the remodeled portion of the Pentagon'?

The question is about who was flying the plane, and you know it. Good grief, man.


Btodd

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

Absolutely stunning. Your original statement came up in trying explain the turn-and-descent of the plane. Not one thing in your reply addressed the question, 'who intended to hit the remodeled portion of the Pentagon'?

The question is about who was flying the plane, and you know it. Good grief, man.


Btodd

That was awesome!

(Im betting nobody else will miss my charge against cheney and rumsfeld)

 

[stelow]

I would disagree, it shows that highly respectable government agencies, will blantantly lie to the people who pay their salaries, and tell them complete bull faced lies, The air was not safe by any standards, and men and woman were lied to and now many of them are dying as a result of that lie............and who put a post on this thread that stretched it out to the point inusable

Oh, oh, oh, we all know the government represents the people, no way shape or form could the motives behind this bold face lie, that came from the Environmental Protection Agency, could lack integrity. They meant to cause no harm to the thousands of people who now have serious lung diseases, or the ones who have died from the complications from the lung disease; they just had a serious problem with their science in that moment of time. How dare you, speak against the authorities who represent us.

 

[ManFromUncle]

Are you serious? I thought you meant 'where is it now?', and that's how you were jumping to the (fallacious) claim that it had been destroyed. It did not 'vaporize', and it's only Truthers who say such silly things. If you're seriously saying that you've never seen pictures of the debris, then here you go:

Those are pictures. Surely you aren't so dense to not know that I am talking about the actual physical evidence which can be inspected, for the parts stamps which are on every piece of commercial aircraft flying for decades. I repeat: where is the forensic evidence preserved? That's right, destroyed.

Remember, if you are poor, it is because of 911. That is what this smoke-blowing operation is trying to keep you from realizing. The 911 Wars have cost every family at the very least $50,000. But it has made some people very, very rich. False flag attacks are an old part of the tool box to drag us into wars, Gulf of Tonkin is just one, and USS Liberty is another.

Join the 1500 licensed Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth in their 2011 Justice Campaign. Initiation of a prosecution requires only sufficient evidence of wrongdoing, not a complete theory of the crime.

It is also very important to write to your congressman and demand he open a hearing for former Assistant Deputy Secretary of State Dr. Steve Pieczenik to testify.

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[Btodd]

That was awesome!

(Im betting nobody else will miss my charge against cheney and rumsfeld)

Cheney and Rumsfeld were flying the plane?


Btodd

 

[Btodd]

Those are pictures. Surely you aren't so dense to not know that I am talking about the actual physical evidence which can be inspected, for the parts stamps which are on every piece of commercial aircraft flying for decades. I repeat: where is the forensic evidence preserved? That's right, destroyed.

Wow, after all that documentation, and several pertinent questions...this is all you could come up with? A reversal of the burden of proof?

You said it was destroyed. You either have evidence of that, or you do not. The fact that you don't know where the wreckage is, and haven't bothered to even find out (instead expecting me to do it for you)...does not mean 'therefore it was destroyed'.

So, let's see a source for the claim. And then you can get back to all the points raised in that post, instead of this poor excuse for a rebuttal. At least RealDeal will fake moral outrage when he's lost.


Btodd

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

Cheney and Rumsfeld were flying the plane?


Btodd

It was Paris Hilton.