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Job8 said:

Well then why don't the Muslim countries start rounding up these Jihadists and beheading them?

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The Kurds--the example I provided earlier--are fighting ISIS.

Archivist said:

The Kurds--the example I provided earlier--are fighting ISIS.

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I'm glad you mentioned the Kurds, who are one of the most persecuted minorities in Muslim lands. Turkey, Iraq, Iran, and Syria, for example, would love to exterminate them.

Job8 said:

I'm glad you mentioned the Kurds, who are one of the most persecuted minorities in Muslim lands. Turkey, Iraq, Iran, and Syria, for example, would love to exterminate them.

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Very true. The Kurds have always been persecuted. My friend's family fled Iraq when she was very young because of that.

Archivist said:

Very true. The Kurds have always been persecuted. My friend's family fled Iraq when she was very young because of that.

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The kurds are the closest thing I have seen to any sort of a national unity. Folks from other parts of the ME, save maybe Israel, do not view themselves from such-n-such a country, while Kurds, whether sunni, shia, christian, or whatever.. view themselves as Kurds. Perhaps it is the persecution from everyone around them that has invoked this sort of unity.

Archivist said:

Prayer is the only thing that most of us can do in response to such a senseless killing. And, as others have said on here, prayer does work.

And remember that the majority of Muslims do not support ISIS. One of my dear friends is Muslim--her family are Kurds who fled Iraq when Saddam Hussein was in power. She has relatives who are in the Kurdish Peshmerga fighting ISIS.

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Thank you PapaZoom for confirming what I said, that a majority of Muslims do not support ISIS. Some, like the Kurds, are actively fighting ISIS.

Archivist said:

Thank you PapaZoom for confirming what I said, that a majority of Muslims do not support ISIS. Some, like the Kurds, are actively fighting ISIS.

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What I confirmed is that the majority are irrelevant. Also, if one knows what the authoritative Islamic writings teach, ISIS is closer to the heart of Islamic teachings than are "peaceful" Muslims.

PapaZoom said:

What I confirmed is that the majority are irrelevant. Also, if one knows what the authoritative Islamic writings teach, ISIS is closer to the heart of Islamic teachings than are "peaceful" Muslims.

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No you confirmed that a majority of Muslims do not support ISIS, which is exactly what I said. I didn't comment on whether those who support ISIS are in positions of power. I didn't comment on whether ISIS is closer to the heart of Islamic teachings. I made a simple statement regarding the position of the majority of Muslims and you confirmed it.

thatbrian said:

We have prayed for NYC, Paris, Munich. . . All we have done is pray. Now is a time for action. The world needs to come together to end Muslim terror.

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Is this part of your talking to God, or are you talking to us now that your demands don't seem to be part of His Plan?

There is no way to "end" Muslim terror. The whole world might be able to curtail it a bit... for a while, but we cannot undo what God decreed long ago. Sin has its price and it must be paid.

PapaZoom said:

What I confirmed is that the majority are irrelevant. Also, if one knows what the authoritative Islamic writings teach, ISIS is closer to the heart of Islamic teachings than are "peaceful" Muslims.

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Thank you for sharing those videos!

But we are still back to Muslims who are Taliban's. "...And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God..." Not all of them are bad but not all of them are good either. Kurds could be a good example but how would you tell the legit kind and the deceptive one to win you over. All I know regardless of who you chose to be nice too, you will never know if you will lose your life one day while celebrating something or whatever just because the got close enough to heed to ISIS.

I don't know what the answer is, but I cannot agree with the statement "if you are not for us you're against us" because those were also the words of the Lord, only he preached peace not war. He went to the cross and didn't kill his enemies. However I am not against those who wish to protect their families either, so I'm not against them. I have no opinion because God is the judge not me.

If I support war I support killing innocent people, even children. I cant in good conscience do that, but I will not be for or against anything. I put it in Gods hands. This isn't being weak, but is faith. Its faith as I see it in scripture.

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Is this part of your talking to God, or are you talking to us now that your demands don't seem to be part of His Plan?

There is no way to "end" Muslim terror. The whole world might be able to curtail it a bit... for a while, but we cannot undo what God decreed long ago. Sin has its price and it must be paid.

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I'm not sure what part Muslim terror has in God's plan.

When we look in the book of Daniel, we see a move of spiritual principalities: The principality of Persia that had been ruling over the area we now call the Levant got up and moved back to the east while the principality of Greece moved eastward to begin ruling over the Levant. In the meantime, the principality that had been protecting the people of Israel continued his covering role right where he was. In the spiritual realm, one principality moved away, another moved in...like the change of shift workers or a changing of the guard.

In the material realm of men, however, there was human nation against human nation: Chaos, war, and death.

When the Soviet Union fell, I and some other Christians in the intelligence community watched the details intently. This was a sudden and complete surprise. US military attaches in Soviet Bloc nations reported Soviet troops hurriedly throwing their gear into trucks and rushing back to Russia in chaos, as though they were fleeing an unseen invader. We watched military units in the Soviet Union--active every day in grim determination for half a century--suddenly fall apart. The Russian cosmonauts in the Mir space station were frantic because the Russians scientists at Baikonur Cosmodrome (their version of the Kennedy Space Center) had simply stopped going to work, and the cosmonauts actually were afraid nobody would bring them back. Sudden chaos out of nowhere.

Since then, Russia has been merely a place where bad men were doing bad things and good men were doing good things--the ordinary simmering chaos common in the fallen world...not the directed, stolid activity of controlled evil that had been the Soviet Union.

We watched that happening, and in our Pentagon bible studies we wondered to each other: Had we just witnessed the movement of a principality? Had a spiritual authority that had governed the Soviet Union simply get up and move somewhere else? And if so...where? And why? What plan was in motion?

I don't pretend to know the answers to those questions, but I look at these kinds of broad activities and wonder what is behind them in the spiritual realm. But certainly, we see something new happening. There has been a slow simmer of Islamic terrorism since the 70s--most people had the luxury of hardly noticing, but it had been my professional business to study it since the mid-70s. That was aimless stuff, going back and forth, rising and falling, without a goal.

There is something broad and new going on. This is not just the activities of evil men--evil men alone don't act in such concert around the world, but at the urging of demons that are anywhere and everywhere whispering the same suggestions into open ears all around the world, any open ear that prayerfully welcomes them.

This is not going to be brought to an end by trusting in chariots and horses.

thatbrian said:

I understand; however, your comment was meant to say, only a minority of Muslims want to kill us, which is not the case. As many as 42% of Muslims in some countries, agree with suicide bombings. . .

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No, I meant to say exactly what I said, that being that a majority of Muslims do not support ISIS. Please don't make false statements and try to put words in my mouth. I said nothing about treatment of homosexuals in Muslim countries. I said nothing about attitudes towards suicide bombings in some Muslim countries, and even if I had commented on that, 42% is still less than a majority. If you have facts to show that what I said is wrong present them but stop making false accusations.

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I understand; however, your comment was meant to say, only a minority of Muslims want to kill us, which is not the case. As many as 42% of Muslims in some countries, agree with suicide bombings. . .

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I'm not necessarily a Trump fan but I believe he's on the right track when he said to vet all muslims and those who believe in sharia law to send them back to the country of their choice that supports sharia law.....OH WAIT?????

Archivist said:

No you confirmed that a majority of Muslims do not support ISIS, which is exactly what I said. I didn't comment on whether those who support ISIS are in positions of power. I didn't comment on whether ISIS is closer to the heart of Islamic teachings. I made a simple statement regarding the position of the majority of Muslims and you confirmed it.

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Alrightythen. Next time I want to post something I'll check with you first on the point of my post so I'm not confused on what I'm trying to say.

That aside, the video isn't about the fact that the majority of Muslims are "peaceful." The video is about how a majority is irrelevant - in this case - to world-wide terror in the name of Islam.

The fact is, millions upon millions of Muslims support terrorist activities if not directly, then by agreement with their actions.

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The 42% is Muslims who ADMIT to support of suicide bombings, which certainly means it's much higher. Please don't try to defend Islam - not this week.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ion-muslims-support-isis-in-eleven-countries/

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I guess you don't apologize for making false statements about what others have said. And my statement that a majority of Muslims do not support ISIS is correct. If you have evidence to the contrary please present it.