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[NursingNinja]

If you're going to send your kids to public school just be prepared to provide their Christian education yourself. That's how I feel about it anyways. And you know what? That's not a bad thing anyways.

 

[Mudinyeri]

If you're going to send your kids to public school just be prepared to provide their Christian education yourself. That's how I feel about it anyways. And you know what? That's not a bad thing anyways.

Amen. Parents are told to raise up their children in the way they should go ... not schools.

It amazes me how many people in this thread are of the "my way or the highway" mentality. I'm very concerned for any children being home schooled by those individuals.

 

[Gwen-is-new!]

I've never heard a 6 year old preacher. . .

You might be misapplying something Jesus said to His disciples.

I feel so sad for kids that get thrown into the public schools like they are spiritual giants and told to "be the light".. Yes, who was the audience in Mat 5-7?

 

[Gwen-is-new!]

Amen. Parents are told to raise up their children in the way they should go ... not schools.

It amazes me how many people in this thread are of the "my way or the highway" mentality. I'm very concerned for any children being home schooled by those individuals.

The Christian school is complimenting, confirming, and cooperating with what the child is learning at home and at church. It is in no way taking the responsibility off the parents. As parents, we need all the help we can get, and of course there is no perfect parent, but Jesus Christ.

I don't see the my way or highway mentality at all in this thread. To chose to home-school is a huge commitment and responsibility that comes from a strong conviction, determination, and passion, so maybe that is what you sense.

 

[SnowyMacie]

I've never heard a 6 year old preacher. . .

You might be misapplying something Jesus said to His disciples.

I have. He wasn't six, but maybe no more than 10. It was in the documentary Jesus Camp.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

I feel so sad for kids that get thrown into the public schools like they are spiritual giants and told to "be the light".. Yes, who was the audience in Mat 5-7?

I agree. Various stories in the OT revealed groups of people who sacrificed their children to their gods. Thankfully, our God doesn't require child sacrifice. He doesn't ask us to put put our children in harms way to accomplish His work.

Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them. 17 And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some doubted.18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.

Also, making disciples, baptizing, and teaching, the three things that Jesus commanded of His disciples, is not the work of children or even adults not called or qualified.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

The Christian school is complimenting, confirming, and cooperating with what the child is learning at home and at church. It is in no way taking the responsibility off the parents. As parents, we need all the help we can get, and of course there is no perfect parent, but Jesus Christ.

I don't see the my way or highway mentality at all in this thread. To chose to home-school is a huge commitment and responsibility that comes from a strong conviction, determination, and passion, so maybe that is what you sense.

Good answer. There a various tools for "raising up" your children.

I haven't seen any my way or the highway here either. In discussing this topic, but I've come across people in the past who have sent their children to government-run schools, and they've gotten a little touchy when the subject of home schooling came up.

 

[Mudinyeri]

I don't see the my way or highway mentality at all in this thread.

I think you've missed quite a few of the posts then.

 

[Paidiske]

I've come across people in the past who have sent their children to government-run schools, and they've gotten a little touchy about the subject of home schooling.

You don't think attitudes which suggest that those parents are, for example, sacrificing their children, might be why they've been a bit "touchy"?

Nobody likes others, who are outside a situation, to come in and judge the decisions they've made with their child's best interests at heart.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

You don't think attitudes which suggest that those parents are, for example, sacrificing their children, might be why they've been a bit "touchy"?

Nobody likes others, who are outside a situation, to come in and judge the decisions they've made with their child's best interests at heart.

I was referring strictly to the idea that we "need" to send our children into state-run schools as evangelists, in spite of whatever risk we might put them in. Also, although I would never subject my children to that type of educational system, I understand that many have no reasonable option, even if they want to otherwise, that cant. So, I don't judge people who send their children to such schools, but I do judge "missionary work" as a very poor reason, not to mention the doctrinally error. God doesn't need, and never asks us to use our children in such a manner.

 

[pat34lee]

I find this funny considering how often the phrase "life-long learners" is thrown around the education system and how the TEA is all about student-centered education.

I don't understand the reference. Please explain. TEA?

 

[pat34lee]

I have. He wasn't six, but maybe no more than 10. It was in the documentary Jesus Camp.

There are 6 and 4 year old preachers on Youtube. I actually find
that offensive, as they are not even the age of accountability.
They may be good mimics, but they have no experience or wisdom
at that age.

 

[Mudinyeri]

I was referring strictly to the idea that we "need" to send our children into state-run schools as evangelists, in spite of whatever risk we might put them in. Also, although I would never subject my children to that type of educational system, I understand that many have no reasonable option, even if they want to otherwise, that cant. So, I don't judge people who send their children to such schools, but I do judge "missionary work" as a very poor reason, not to mention the doctrinally error. God doesn't need, and never asks us to use our children in such a manner.

I think you may be referring to my posts. I never said "need." I suggested that it is an opportunity ... for the right child, parents and school. There is absolutely no doctrine that prevents a high school age child from going out and fulfilling the Great Commission at a public high school.

The concept of teenage children as helpless and needing to be protected by their parents is a relatively new phenomenon in historical terms - and an unfortunate one at that.

 

[Gwen-is-new!]

I was referring strictly to the idea that we "need" to send our children into state-run schools as evangelists, in spite of whatever risk we might put them in. Also, although I would never subject my children to that type of educational system, I understand that many have no reasonable option, even if they want to otherwise, that cant. So, I don't judge people who send their children to such schools, but I do judge "missionary work" as a very poor reason, not to mention the doctrinally error. God doesn't need, and never asks us to use our children in such a manner.

I've actually been chastised by public school teachers for sending my kids to Christian school! They say it because of parents like me that there no "good" kids left in the public arena.

 

[Mudinyeri]

I've actually been chastised by public school teachers for sending my kids to Christian school! They say it because of parents like me that there no "good" kids left in the public arena.

That's unfortunate. We found something of the opposite at our son's Christian school. Kids who had been kicked out of all of the public schools in their area ended up at the Christian school. For a while, we had a school administrator that tolerated pretty much any behavior - including threats of violence. He was fired and the new administrator fairly applied the rules to all of the kids, regardless of where they came from.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

I think you may be referring to my posts. I never said "need." I suggested that it is an opportunity ... for the right child, parents and school. There is absolutely no doctrine that prevents a high school age child from going out and fulfilling the Great Commission at a public high school.

The concept of teenage children as helpless and needing to be protected by their parents is a relatively new phenomenon in historical terms - and an unfortunate one at that.

I wan't referring to your post.

Your children are going into all the world, making disciples of Christ, baptizing them, and teaching them all the Christ commanded? I think your mistake, which is a common one, is that you've reduced/changed the Great Commission to "Go and make converts".

"Helpless" has never be used here. As children get old they can do more. That is what I explained in post #164.

You're creating a strawman by interjecting terms like "helpless" and "leash". Things which no one here has said, along with "my way or the highway", which I don't recall anyone saying.

 

[Mudinyeri]

I wan't referring to your post.

Your children are going into all the world, making disciples of Christ, baptizing them, and teaching them all the Christ commanded? I think your mistake, which is a common one, is that you've reduced/changed the Great Commission to "Go and make converts".

"Helpless" has never be used here. As children get old they can do more. That what I explained in post #164.

You're creating a strawman by interjecting terms like "helpless" and "leash". Things which no one here has said, along with "my way or the highway", which I don't recall anyone saying.

Explain to me the difference between "making disciples of Christ" and "making converts." And, while we're splitting hairs, I never said "make converts." Rather, I specifically said, "fulfill the Great Commission."

On to helplessness (I don't know what you're talking about with the whole 'leash' thing) ... I was inferring from many of the comments about not sending children to public/government schools because they weren't equipped for it that the posters viewed their children as unable to survive/cope in the environment, in a word ... helpless. No straw man.

The "my way or the highway" comment was about an attitude, not a direct quote. Others have, apparently, noticed the same attitude.

And, to answer your question about my child (We could only have one) ... yes, he is fulfilling the Great Commission. I pray every day that he will continue to do so.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

I've actually been chastised by public school teachers for sending my kids to Christian school! They say it because of parents like me that there no "good" kids left in the public arena.

I could imagine this as an issue in certain areas of the country. Also, this might just be teacher's union propaganda they are parroting. They could have heard it from UFT literature/union meetings, etc. The issue is, they are afraid of completion and true choice because they know that if real school were available e.g., school vouchers, not many would choose GRS.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

Explain to me the difference between "making disciples of Christ" and "making converts." And, while we're splitting hairs, I never said "make converts." Rather, I specifically said, "fulfill the Great Commission."

Making converts refers to the modern notion of "getting a decision for Christ". Pray a pray, raise you hand. . . which is nowhere to be found in the texts of scripture. Disciples are learners and followers. like apprentices. Jesus had disciples.

The Great Commission was given to the 12. They were the leaders of the Church, ordained by Christ for this work. Making disciples, baptizing, and teaching (The Great Commission) are not the work of children or adults who are not qualified or called. Jesus COMMISSIONED the leaders, the 12 to "go into all the world. . ." They in turn appointed other leaders in various cities to carry on this work.

their children as unable to survive/cope in the environment, in a word ... helpless.

Children can't survive in many environments. . . Also, Government-run schools might be the real world to you, but they are not to me.

The "my way or the highway" comment was about an attitude, not a direct quote. Others have, apparently, noticed the same attitude

Please don't make accusations unless you have proof and have asked for clarification first. You may have misunderstood someone. If you would like other to be charitable, then you should be charitable yourself, no?

 

[Mudinyeri]

Please don't make accusations unless you have proof and have asked for clarification first. You may have misunderstood someone. If you would like other to be charitable, then you should be charitable yourself, no.

"Sacrificing children" seems pretty clear. I don't think anyone with an IQ over room temperature needs a clarification. Being accused of sacrificing my child, I would say characterizing the stance as "my way or the highway" is pretty charitable, no?