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Is Church Optional for a Christian?

  • Of course! Church is for legalists!

    Votes: 5 7.8%
  • Of course not! There isn't a single case of such thing in the New Testament.

    Votes: 12 18.8%
  • In certain cases it's OK.

    Votes: 18 28.1%
  • Why wouldn't a Christian what to be a member of a church?!

    Votes: 22 34.4%
  • Yes. Churches are corrupt

    Votes: 11 17.2%
  • No. Imperfect, yes, but we are commanded to join with our fellow Christians

    Votes: 28 43.8%

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I find it an evil when I separate myself from those that God loves but that is more to do with the nature of the spirit. however it reflects back into this world as well. so what is first is the primal reality but God does not wish that I hate what he loves. good and evil seems to be something deeper than appearances or actions?
It permeates like duality. It is simply our circumstance. Contentment starts with acceptance. Devotion is more than commitment, it is also antidote. God gives us needs to attend.

...so I name your congregation "Bordertown Community Church" meeting 24/7/365 wherever 2 or 3 gather and keep the two greatest commandments.
 
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It seems good not to judge each other about Church, but instead to lift each other up in knowledge of the Lord, our redeemer. I dont have a Church, and cant go to one, i make many mistakes in these forums as well, but i am stlll desperate need of the Lord. Its not like my soul doesn't thirst in a dry and thirsty land. My soul groans when i think of all this theology stuff, and politics, that divide us. It seems like its supposed to more simple than that. Lets all go down to the cross and hang ourselves there, on that cross.

 
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It seems good not to judge each other about Church, but instead to lift each other up in knowledge of the Lord, our redeemer. I dont have a Church, and cant go to one, i make many mistakes in these forums as well, but i am stlll desperate need of the Lord. Its not like my soul doesn't thirst in a dry and thirsty land. My soul groans when i think of all this theology stuff, and politics, that divide us. It seems like its supposed to more simple than that. Lets all go down to the cross and hang ourselves there, on that cross.

Hang tough, brother.
 
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oh that's right, so i can be around people who don't like me, who get offended after I slip up and say a few offensive things to them, yeah i totally wanna be doing that. cause i realllyyyyy wanna be around people who "ignore fools" and around people who are so concerned about belief structures more than what good people do. AND you know, all this manner stuff that you do, like, you take it so seriously so that I have a hard time trying to be honest even though i don't wanna be a jerk. being alone is just better for me I think.

people are people. Christians are not some higher classed being that I ought to hang around out of compulsion.

then people are all like "the bible, the bible" and what am i to do? i got quotes for days, but what use is it when we don't see the same thing? but there are plenty of great Christians out there.

Have you ever considered listening to Joel Osteen or Lakewood church? I KNOW he is controversial (so no one please go there).. Noxot - seems you need some encouragement and gentle conviction - and Joel excels in both those! Please consider listening .. his older sermons -- 2007-2008 are best.

NOT giving up on God's children can be the hardest part of running the race without a doubt. The disappointment from so-called Christians can truly be debilitating at times!!
 
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Have you ever considered listening to Joel Osteen or Lakewood church? I KNOW he is controversial (so no one please go there).. Noxot - seems you need some encouragement and gentle conviction - and Joel excels in both those! Please consider listening .. his older sermons -- 2007-2008 are best.

NOT giving up on God's children can be the hardest part of running the race without a doubt. The disappointment from so-called Christians can truly be debilitating at times!!


Joel Osteen is your recommendation? SMH.....one of the biggest false teachers out there.

hvvp:beginningandend dot com/apostasy-alert-joel-osteen-and-oprah-preach-new-age-magic/
 
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Gwen, Gwen, Gwen. . . I'm at a loss for words.
I knew you would be! Come on now.. God can and will use anyone HE wants (remember the donkey).. I've listened to 100+ of his messages since 2007, do I seem lost in new age... okay, don't answer that.

Our brother needs encouragement.. plain and simple :)

Oh no, just when I figured out that was Calvin (?), you changed your look.. you can't do that.
 
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Oh no, just when I figured out that was Calvin (?), you changed your look.. you can't do that.

It was John Calvin, yes. He made me look too stodgy, so I had to loose the avatar.

I don't know what the case is, or who you are even referring to, but sometimes things come our way to bring us to the end of ourselves where we can humbly look only to Him. You never know Christ is all you need until Christ is all you have.

Mr. Sparkly Teeth can't help your friend. This, however, can: http://www.gospelinlife.com/free-sermon-resource
 
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Is being joined to a local body of believers, and under the authority of the church, optional or manditory for a Christian?

Is it personal preference, like toppings on a pizza, or is it obligatory and fundament for all Christians?
I couldn't vote for any of the options you gave. Although I believe it is very beneficial to the believer to belong to and attend a church, I don't believe the believer must be a member of a church or congregation, or that they must attend one. However, I would never say that all who belong to and attend a church are legalists, or that in some cases it's ok not to attend a church but in other cases it is. I also certainly don't believe all churches are corrupt.
 
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You must define the word properly to be able to put it into context right?

The word ekklesia originally referred to the democratic assembly of the Athenian city-state; from ekkalein, "to call out". The people of Athens were called to assemble for important matters of the state, since they were called out to assemble together for this purpose, the concept of the ekklesia took on the notion of a gathering or assembly.

In the LXX the qahal of Israel is translated as ekklesia, and translated as "congregation" or "assembly" in English.

When Jesus says He will build His ekklesia, the basic notion is that of a congregation or assembly (and probably at least in some ways hearkens back to the qahal of Israel), but He is specifically calling people to be this assembly of His--here specifically He has called the Apostles, who will in turn by the preaching of the Gospel call the nations to be part of this, Christ's holy ekklesia.

This ekklesia is defined as being the people of Christ, having been joined to Him--in His death and resurrection--by baptism, in hearing and confessing the Word, and sharing together in the cup and bread of Christ's Supper, i.e. the Eucharist. And so this ekklesia is defined as God's Christian people justified by God's grace in the righteousness of Christ, by the power of the Holy Spirit indwelling them, having received their new identity as God's people in Jesus by the power of the Holy Spirit through the Sacrament of Holy Baptism, sharing together in the Holy Supper of the Eucharist, hearing and confessing Christ's Word.

To facilitate this Christian people there are pastors--bishops and presbyters--put in place by the Apostles to continue the apostolic ministry (given to them by Christ personally) of guiding, shepherding, and feeding the people of Christ.

So this ekklesia is properly to be called one (for there can only be one Christian people by virtue of St. Paul's statement in Ephesians 4--one faith, one baptism, one Lord, one Spirit, one God and Father), holy for Christ has justified and sanctified this one Christian people by His righteousness and given them the Holy Spirit as the pledge and promise of their present and future hope of eternal life in Him, catholic or universal on account that the one holy Christian people are spread out across the world and made of many nations, languages, and tribes, and apostolic for it has been built upon the foundation of the apostolic ministry granted by Christ through the office of the keys. And so there is one holy catholic and apostolic Church, just as we confess in the Creed.

This holy Christian people are a people, a gathered people, an assembled people; assembled in Christ, through and for God's Word and Sacrament. Therefore this holy Christian people is visibly constituted; with pastors, preaching, Sacraments, etc. Else it is not Christ's ekklesia, for Christ's ekklesia as defined and understood by the teaching of Holy Scripture is the assembled people marked by Baptism, marked by the apostolic ministry of preaching the Word and the administration of the Sacraments.

Now we can say what and where Christ's ekklesia is and what Christ's ekklesia looks like--biblically; we can't say where it necessarily is not. But if we call ourselves by Christ's name, that is by the name of Christian--a person who is Christ's--and if having been called, called by the Word, called through the waters of Baptism, called to the assembly and gathering of the people of Christ it behooves us not to reject this calling which we have received. It is not men who call and gather the Church, but God.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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The word ekklesia originally referred to the democratic assembly of the Athenian city-state; from ekkalein, "to call out". The people of Athens were called to assemble for important matters of the state, since they were called out to assemble together for this purpose, the concept of the ekklesia took on the notion of a gathering or assembly.

In the LXX the qahal of Israel is translated as ekklesia, and translated as "congregation" or "assembly" in English.

When Jesus says He will build His ekklesia, the basic notion is that of a congregation or assembly (and probably at least in some ways hearkens back to the qahal of Israel), but He is specifically calling people to be this assembly of His--here specifically He has called the Apostles, who will in turn by the preaching of the Gospel call the nations to be part of this, Christ's holy ekklesia.

This ekklesia is defined as being the people of Christ, having been joined to Him--in His death and resurrection--by baptism, in hearing and confessing the Word, and sharing together in the cup and bread of Christ's Supper, i.e. the Eucharist. And so this ekklesia is defined as God's Christian people justified by God's grace in the righteousness of Christ, by the power of the Holy Spirit indwelling them, having received their new identity as God's people in Jesus by the power of the Holy Spirit through the Sacrament of Holy Baptism, sharing together in the Holy Supper of the Eucharist, hearing and confessing Christ's Word.

To facilitate this Christian people there are pastors--bishops and presbyters--put in place by the Apostles to continue the apostolic ministry (given to them by Christ personally) of guiding, shepherding, and feeding the people of Christ.

So this ekklesia is properly to be called one (for there can only be one Christian people by virtue of St. Paul's statement in Ephesians 4--one faith, one baptism, one Lord, one Spirit, one God and Father), holy for Christ has justified and sanctified this one Christian people by His righteousness and given them the Holy Spirit as the pledge and promise of their present and future hope of eternal life in Him, catholic or universal on account that the one holy Christian people are spread out across the world and made of many nations, languages, and tribes, and apostolic for it has been built upon the foundation of the apostolic ministry granted by Christ through the office of the keys. And so there is one holy catholic and apostolic Church, just as we confess in the Creed.

This holy Christian people are a people, a gathered people, an assembled people; assembled in Christ, through and for God's Word and Sacrament. Therefore this holy Christian people is visibly constituted; with pastors, preaching, Sacraments, etc. Else it is not Christ's ekklesia, for Christ's ekklesia as defined and understood by the teaching of Holy Scripture is the assembled people marked by Baptism, marked by the apostolic ministry of preaching the Word and the administration of the Sacraments.

Now we can say what and where Christ's ekklesia is and what Christ's ekklesia looks like--biblically; we can't say where it necessarily is not. But if we call ourselves by Christ's name, that is by the name of Christian--a person who is Christ's--and if having been called, called by the Word, called through the waters of Baptism, called to the assembly and gathering of the people of Christ it behooves us not to reject this calling which we have received. It is not men who call and gather the Church, but God.

-CryptoLutheran

So you are saying that anyone who doesn't go to Church is not a Christian. Although that violated rules, i don't care and will not be offended. I have the Lord and He is all i need. If people online would like to share in the spirit with me, i am happy to assemble with them here, but if not, im not worried. Christ will never leave or forsake me. I know where salvation is found. :)

Let he who glories glory in the Lord.



Psalms 1:He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High
Shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress;
My God, in Him I will trust.”

3 Surely He shall deliver you from the snare of the fowler
And from the perilous pestilence.
4 He shall cover you with His feathers,
And under His wings you shall take refuge;
His truth shall be your shield and buckler.
5 You shall not be afraid of the terror by night,
Nor of the arrow that flies by day,
6 Nor of the pestilence that walks in darkness,
Nor of the destruction that lays waste at noonday.

7 A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand;
But it shall not come near you.
8 Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.

9 Because you have made the Lord, who is my refuge,
Even the Most High, your dwelling place,
10 No evil shall befall you,
Nor shall any plague come near your dwelling;
11 For He shall give His angels charge over you,
To keep you in all your ways.
12 In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.
13 You shall tread upon the lion and the cobra,
The young lion and the serpent you shall trample underfoot.

14 “Because he has set his love upon Me, therefore I will deliver him;
I will set him on high, because he has known My name.
15 He shall call upon Me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble;
I will deliver him and honor him.
16 With long life I will satisfy him,
And show him My salvation.”
 
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The word ekklesia originally referred to the democratic assembly of the Athenian city-state; from ekkalein, "to call out". The people of Athens were called to assemble for important matters of the state, since they were called out to assemble together for this purpose, the concept of the ekklesia took on the notion of a gathering or assembly.

In the LXX the qahal of Israel is translated as ekklesia, and translated as "congregation" or "assembly" in English.

When Jesus says He will build His ekklesia, the basic notion is that of a congregation or assembly (and probably at least in some ways hearkens back to the qahal of Israel), but He is specifically calling people to be this assembly of His--here specifically He has called the Apostles, who will in turn by the preaching of the Gospel call the nations to be part of this, Christ's holy ekklesia.

This ekklesia is defined as being the people of Christ, having been joined to Him--in His death and resurrection--by baptism, in hearing and confessing the Word, and sharing together in the cup and bread of Christ's Supper, i.e. the Eucharist. And so this ekklesia is defined as God's Christian people justified by God's grace in the righteousness of Christ, by the power of the Holy Spirit indwelling them, having received their new identity as God's people in Jesus by the power of the Holy Spirit through the Sacrament of Holy Baptism, sharing together in the Holy Supper of the Eucharist, hearing and confessing Christ's Word.

To facilitate this Christian people there are pastors--bishops and presbyters--put in place by the Apostles to continue the apostolic ministry (given to them by Christ personally) of guiding, shepherding, and feeding the people of Christ.

So this ekklesia is properly to be called one (for there can only be one Christian people by virtue of St. Paul's statement in Ephesians 4--one faith, one baptism, one Lord, one Spirit, one God and Father), holy for Christ has justified and sanctified this one Christian people by His righteousness and given them the Holy Spirit as the pledge and promise of their present and future hope of eternal life in Him, catholic or universal on account that the one holy Christian people are spread out across the world and made of many nations, languages, and tribes, and apostolic for it has been built upon the foundation of the apostolic ministry granted by Christ through the office of the keys. And so there is one holy catholic and apostolic Church, just as we confess in the Creed.

This holy Christian people are a people, a gathered people, an assembled people; assembled in Christ, through and for God's Word and Sacrament. Therefore this holy Christian people is visibly constituted; with pastors, preaching, Sacraments, etc. Else it is not Christ's ekklesia, for Christ's ekklesia as defined and understood by the teaching of Holy Scripture is the assembled people marked by Baptism, marked by the apostolic ministry of preaching the Word and the administration of the Sacraments.

Now we can say what and where Christ's ekklesia is and what Christ's ekklesia looks like--biblically; we can't say where it necessarily is not. But if we call ourselves by Christ's name, that is by the name of Christian--a person who is Christ's--and if having been called, called by the Word, called through the waters of Baptism, called to the assembly and gathering of the people of Christ it behooves us not to reject this calling which we have received. It is not men who call and gather the Church, but God.

-CryptoLutheran

Very well said, biblically sound, convincing, and delivered in a winsome manner.

When sheep hear their shepherd, they gather. This video is a great demonstration of just that.

 
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ekklesia
  1. those who anywhere, in a city, village, constitute such a company and are united into one body
  2. the whole body of Christians scattered throughout the earth
  3. the assembly of faithful Christians already dead and received into heaven

Romans 10:8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. 13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
 
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Very well said, biblically sound, convincing, and delivered in a winsome manner.

When sheep hear their shepherd, they gather. This video is a great demonstration of just that.


Very biblicaly said, but without a single scripture....hmmmm. Sounded like a bunch of religious babel to me.
 
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The word ekklesia originally referred to the democratic assembly of the Athenian city-state; from ekkalein, "to call out". The people of Athens were called to assemble for important matters of the state, since they were called out to assemble together for this purpose, the concept of the ekklesia took on the notion of a gathering or assembly.

In the LXX the qahal of Israel is translated as ekklesia, and translated as "congregation" or "assembly" in English.

When Jesus says He will build His ekklesia, the basic notion is that of a congregation or assembly (and probably at least in some ways hearkens back to the qahal of Israel), but He is specifically calling people to be this assembly of His--here specifically He has called the Apostles, who will in turn by the preaching of the Gospel call the nations to be part of this, Christ's holy ekklesia.

This ekklesia is defined as being the people of Christ, having been joined to Him--in His death and resurrection--by baptism, in hearing and confessing the Word, and sharing together in the cup and bread of Christ's Supper, i.e. the Eucharist. And so this ekklesia is defined as God's Christian people justified by God's grace in the righteousness of Christ, by the power of the Holy Spirit indwelling them, having received their new identity as God's people in Jesus by the power of the Holy Spirit through the Sacrament of Holy Baptism, sharing together in the Holy Supper of the Eucharist, hearing and confessing Christ's Word.

To facilitate this Christian people there are pastors--bishops and presbyters--put in place by the Apostles to continue the apostolic ministry (given to them by Christ personally) of guiding, shepherding, and feeding the people of Christ.

So this ekklesia is properly to be called one (for there can only be one Christian people by virtue of St. Paul's statement in Ephesians 4--one faith, one baptism, one Lord, one Spirit, one God and Father), holy for Christ has justified and sanctified this one Christian people by His righteousness and given them the Holy Spirit as the pledge and promise of their present and future hope of eternal life in Him, catholic or universal on account that the one holy Christian people are spread out across the world and made of many nations, languages, and tribes, and apostolic for it has been built upon the foundation of the apostolic ministry granted by Christ through the office of the keys. And so there is one holy catholic and apostolic Church, just as we confess in the Creed.

This holy Christian people are a people, a gathered people, an assembled people; assembled in Christ, through and for God's Word and Sacrament. Therefore this holy Christian people is visibly constituted; with pastors, preaching, Sacraments, etc. Else it is not Christ's ekklesia, for Christ's ekklesia as defined and understood by the teaching of Holy Scripture is the assembled people marked by Baptism, marked by the apostolic ministry of preaching the Word and the administration of the Sacraments.

Now we can say what and where Christ's ekklesia is and what Christ's ekklesia looks like--biblically; we can't say where it necessarily is not. But if we call ourselves by Christ's name, that is by the name of Christian--a person who is Christ's--and if having been called, called by the Word, called through the waters of Baptism, called to the assembly and gathering of the people of Christ it behooves us not to reject this calling which we have received. It is not men who call and gather the Church, but God.

-CryptoLutheran


Not a single scripture.
 
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Acts 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

They went house to house. They were in the "temple" Jewish temple witnessing the gospel and preaching the gospel.

Paul was preaching and they guy fell out of the window. Out of the window of a house.

Cornelius was at his house.

Saul before he became Paul found the Christians, where, in houses? So basically the ekklesia is anywhere the body of Christ gathers. It is not an institution, or a brick and mortar building that is the church.
 
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Not a single scripture.

"This ekklesia is defined as being the people of Christ, having been joined to Him--in His death and resurrection--by baptism,"

"Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized in Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? We were therefore buried with Him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life. For if we have been united with Him in a death like His, we will certainaly also be united with Him in a resurrection like His." - Romans 6:3-5

"in hearing and confessing the Word"

"For faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of Christ" - Romans 10:17

"Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the Church and gave Himself up for her, so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the Word," - Ephesians 5:25-26

"and sharing together in the cup and bread of Christ's Supper"

"The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not communion in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not communion in the body of Christ? Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread." - 1 Corinthians 10:16-17

"And so this ekklesia is defined as God's Christian people justified by God's grace in the righteousness of Christ, by the power of the Holy Spirit indwelling them"

"Therefore, since we are justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have obtained access to this grace in which we stand; and we boast in our hope of the sharing the glory of God. And not only that, but we also boast in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not disappoint us, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit that has been given to us." - Romans 5:1-5

"having received their new identity as God's people in Jesus by the power of the Holy Spirit through the Sacrament of Holy Baptism"

"As many of you were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ." - Galatians 3:27

"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he isa new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come." - 2 Corinthians 5:17

"sharing together in the Holy Supper of the Eucharist, hearing and confessing Christ's Word"

See above

"To facilitate this Christian people there are pastors"

"The gifts He gave were that some would be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers, to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ," - Ephesians 4:11-12

"So this ekklesia is properly to be called ... holy for Christ has justified and sanctified this one Christian people by His righteousness"

See above

"and given them the Holy Spirit as the pledge and promise of their present and future hope of eternal life in Him,"

"For you did not receive a spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received a spirit of adoption. When we cry, 'Abba! Father!' it is that very Spirit bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs, heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ--if, in fact, we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him." - Romans 8:15-17

"For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the children of God; for the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and will obtain freedom of the glory of the children of God. We know that the whole creation has been groaning in labor pains until now; and not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly while we wait for adoption, the redemption of our bodies. For in hope we were saved." - Romans 8:19-24a

"catholic or universal on account that the one holy Christian people are spread out across the world and made of many nations, languages, and tribes,"

"But you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth." - Acts 1:8

"After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands," - Revelation 7:9

"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age." - Matthew 25:19-20

"and apostolic for it has been built upon the foundation of the apostolic ministry granted by Christ through the office of the keys."

"So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are citizens with the saints and also members of the household of God, built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus Himself as the cornerstone." - Ephesians 2:19-20

"Simon Peter answered, 'You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.' And Jesus answered him, 'Blessed are you, Simon bar Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father in heaven. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My Church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.'" - Matthew 16:16-19

"When it was evening on that day, the first day of the week, and the doors of the house where the disciples had met were locked for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, 'Peace be with you.' After He said this, He showed them His hands and His side. Then the disciples rejoiced when they saw the Lord. Jesus said to them again, 'Peace be with you. As the Father has sent Me, so I send you.' When He had said this, He breathed on them and said to them, 'Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.'" - John 20:19-23

How's that?

-CryptoLutheran
 
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"This ekklesia is defined as being the people of Christ, having been joined to Him--in His death and resurrection--by baptism,"

"Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized in Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? We were therefore buried with Him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life. For if we have been united with Him in a death like His, we will certainaly also be united with Him in a resurrection like His." - Romans 6:3-5

"in hearing and confessing the Word"

"For faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of Christ" - Romans 10:17

"Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the Church and gave Himself up for her, so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the Word," - Ephesians 5:25-26

"and sharing together in the cup and bread of Christ's Supper"

"The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not communion in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not communion in the body of Christ? Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread." - 1 Corinthians 10:16-17

"And so this ekklesia is defined as God's Christian people justified by God's grace in the righteousness of Christ, by the power of the Holy Spirit indwelling them"

"Therefore, since we are justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have obtained access to this grace in which we stand; and we boast in our hope of the sharing the glory of God. And not only that, but we also boast in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not disappoint us, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit that has been given to us." - Romans 5:1-5

"having received their new identity as God's people in Jesus by the power of the Holy Spirit through the Sacrament of Holy Baptism"

"As many of you were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ." - Galatians 3:27

"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he isa new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come." - 2 Corinthians 5:17

"sharing together in the Holy Supper of the Eucharist, hearing and confessing Christ's Word"

See above

"To facilitate this Christian people there are pastors"

"The gifts He gave were that some would be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers, to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ," - Ephesians 4:11-12

"So this ekklesia is properly to be called ... holy for Christ has justified and sanctified this one Christian people by His righteousness"

See above

"and given them the Holy Spirit as the pledge and promise of their present and future hope of eternal life in Him,"

"For you did not receive a spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received a spirit of adoption. When we cry, 'Abba! Father!' it is that very Spirit bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs, heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ--if, in fact, we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him." - Romans 8:15-17

"For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the children of God; for the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and will obtain freedom of the glory of the children of God. We know that the whole creation has been groaning in labor pains until now; and not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly while we wait for adoption, the redemption of our bodies. For in hope we were saved." - Romans 8:19-24a

"catholic or universal on account that the one holy Christian people are spread out across the world and made of many nations, languages, and tribes,"

"But you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem, in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth." - Acts 1:8

"After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands," - Revelation 7:9

"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age." - Matthew 25:19-20

"and apostolic for it has been built upon the foundation of the apostolic ministry granted by Christ through the office of the keys."

"So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are citizens with the saints and also members of the household of God, built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus Himself as the cornerstone." - Ephesians 2:19-20

"Simon Peter answered, 'You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.' And Jesus answered him, 'Blessed are you, Simon bar Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father in heaven. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My Church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.'" - Matthew 16:16-19

"When it was evening on that day, the first day of the week, and the doors of the house where the disciples had met were locked for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, 'Peace be with you.' After He said this, He showed them His hands and His side. Then the disciples rejoiced when they saw the Lord. Jesus said to them again, 'Peace be with you. As the Father has sent Me, so I send you.' When He had said this, He breathed on them and said to them, 'Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.'" - John 20:19-23

How's that?

-CryptoLutheran


That is great, sounds suspiciously like Catholic dogma....I think the original question is does the Christian have to attend church. Thus we were defining what the "church" is. You are kind of providing scripture out of context to the question. It seems you are applying salvation, baptism, and why apostolic authority...?
 
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