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Is Church Optional for a Christian?

  • Of course! Church is for legalists!

    Votes: 5 7.8%
  • Of course not! There isn't a single case of such thing in the New Testament.

    Votes: 12 18.8%
  • In certain cases it's OK.

    Votes: 18 28.1%
  • Why wouldn't a Christian what to be a member of a church?!

    Votes: 22 34.4%
  • Yes. Churches are corrupt

    Votes: 11 17.2%
  • No. Imperfect, yes, but we are commanded to join with our fellow Christians

    Votes: 28 43.8%

  • Total voters
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for me it is. but there is no doubt much advantage to being around souls that love God. imo, there has to be people on the outside. but sobernost is important. i'm not good with all the extroverted type stuff. I don't go and do stuff because I feel obligated to. I don't do things that make me feel very uncomfortable. and i often can't relate to how people worship God in churches. most of the time I can't say i am a christian like others are Christians because they end up believing all kinds of things that i don't. I can alienate myself by speaking freely in this place. I can't do that as much in a social setting. i often prefer keeping to myself towards God. and I want intimacy but I don't understand it enough really so i would rather not have half-way relationships. I don't feel myself able to be as intimate with other people as I can be with God.
 
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Congregating with other believers on a regular basis under a structured format is clearly taught in the bible and practiced through church history.

Of course there are exceptions due to health issues or living in isolated areas and so forth.
 
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Congregating with other believers on a regular basic under a structured format is clearly taught in the bible and practiced through church history.

Agreed.

Of course there are exceptions due to health issues or living in isolated areas and so forth.

Yes. There are those cases, and even then, sometimes church comes to them. Some congregations bring worship to nursing homes.
 
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Encouraged is not mandated. We are the Church..it is who we are, not where we go. We are encouraged to "forsake Not" the gathering of ourselves together for edification, etc..but there is no mandate
 
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We are the Church..it is who we are, not where we go.

Why do you think it is that all of the churches in the NT have names? I don't see where "Church" a person's identity. Do you see the church of "us" described anywhere in the pages of scripture?


Local churches mentioned in the Bible:

  1. Antioch, Pisidia: Acts 13:14; Gal 1:2
    • Antioch, Syria: Acts 11:26 (Paul's home base)
    • Athens: Acts 17:34
    • Babylon: 1 Peter 5:13; Acts 2:9
    • Berea: Acts 17:11
    • Caesarea: Acts 10:1,48
    • Cenchrea: Rom 16:1
    • Colossae: Col 1:2
    • Corinth: Acts 18:1
    • Crete: Titus 1:5
    • Cyrene: Acts 11:20
    • Damascus: Acts 9:19
    • Derbe: Acts 14:20; Gal 1:2
    • Ephesus: Acts 18:19
    • Hierapolis Col 4:13
    • Iconium: Acts 14:1; Gal 1:2
    • Jerusalem: Acts 2:5
    • Joppa: Acts 9:36, 38
    • Laodicea: Rev 1:11, Col 4:15
    • Lydda: Acts 9:32
    • Lystra: Acts 14:6; Gal 1:2
    • Pergamum: Rev 1:11
    • Philadelphia: Rev 1:11
    • Philippi: Acts 16:12
    • Puteoli, Italy: Acts 28:13-14
    • Rome: Rom 1:7
    • Sardis: Rev 1:11
    • Sharon: Acts 9:35
    • Smyrna: Rev 1:11
    • Tarsus: Acts 9:30
    • Thessalonica: Acts 17:1
    • Thyatira: Rev 1:11; Acts 16:14
    • Troas: Acts 20:6-7
Regions of churches:

  1. Region of Phoencia: Acts 11:19
  2. Region of Samaria: Acts 8:14, 25
  3. Churches of Judea: Gal 1:22
  4. Churches of Galatia: Gal 1:2
  5. Churches of Asia: 1 Cor 16:19
  6. Churches of Macedonia: 2 Cor 8:1
 
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Why do you think it is that all of the churches in the NT have names? I don't see where "Church" a person's identity. Do you see the church of "us" described anywhere in the pages of scripture?


Local churches mentioned in the Bible:

  1. Antioch, Pisidia: Acts 13:14; Gal 1:2
    • Antioch, Syria: Acts 11:26 (Paul's home base)
    • Athens: Acts 17:34
    • Babylon: 1 Peter 5:13; Acts 2:9
    • Berea: Acts 17:11
    • Caesarea: Acts 10:1,48
    • Cenchrea: Rom 16:1
    • Colossae: Col 1:2
    • Corinth: Acts 18:1
    • Crete: Titus 1:5
    • Cyrene: Acts 11:20
    • Damascus: Acts 9:19
    • Derbe: Acts 14:20; Gal 1:2
    • Ephesus: Acts 18:19
    • Hierapolis Col 4:13
    • Iconium: Acts 14:1; Gal 1:2
    • Jerusalem: Acts 2:5
    • Joppa: Acts 9:36, 38
    • Laodicea: Rev 1:11, Col 4:15
    • Lydda: Acts 9:32
    • Lystra: Acts 14:6; Gal 1:2
    • Pergamum: Rev 1:11
    • Philadelphia: Rev 1:11
    • Philippi: Acts 16:12
    • Puteoli, Italy: Acts 28:13-14
    • Rome: Rom 1:7
    • Sardis: Rev 1:11
    • Sharon: Acts 9:35
    • Smyrna: Rev 1:11
    • Tarsus: Acts 9:30
    • Thessalonica: Acts 17:1
    • Thyatira: Rev 1:11; Acts 16:14
    • Troas: Acts 20:6-7
Regions of churches:

  1. Region of Phoencia: Acts 11:19
  2. Region of Samaria: Acts 8:14, 25
  3. Churches of Judea: Gal 1:22
  4. Churches of Galatia: Gal 1:2
  5. Churches of Asia: 1 Cor 16:19
  6. Churches of Macedonia: 2 Cor 8:1

Dont forget about John on Patmos.
 
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What comments are off topic? Just so we know.

Edit: never mind i see now
 
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Dont forget about John on Patmos.
If there wasn't already a christian community on Patmos, you can be sure that St John established one there in due time. It's what the Apostles did. Where ever God sent them they preached the Gospel, whether free or in chains made no difference.
 
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If there wasn't already a christian community on Patmos, you can be sure that St John established one there in due time. It's what the Apostles did. Where ever God sent them they preached the Gospel, whether free or in chains made no difference.

Wherever, free or chains, you say? Lets start one here then, online. ;)
 
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Why do you think it is that all of the churches in the NT have names? I don't see where "Church" a person's identity. Do you see the church of "us" described anywhere in the pages of scripture?


Local churches mentioned in the Bible:

  1. Antioch, Pisidia: Acts 13:14; Gal 1:2
    • Antioch, Syria: Acts 11:26 (Paul's home base)
    • Athens: Acts 17:34
    • Babylon: 1 Peter 5:13; Acts 2:9
    • Berea: Acts 17:11
    • Caesarea: Acts 10:1,48
    • Cenchrea: Rom 16:1
    • Colossae: Col 1:2
    • Corinth: Acts 18:1
    • Crete: Titus 1:5
    • Cyrene: Acts 11:20
    • Damascus: Acts 9:19
    • Derbe: Acts 14:20; Gal 1:2
    • Ephesus: Acts 18:19
    • Hierapolis Col 4:13
    • Iconium: Acts 14:1; Gal 1:2
    • Jerusalem: Acts 2:5
    • Joppa: Acts 9:36, 38
    • Laodicea: Rev 1:11, Col 4:15
    • Lydda: Acts 9:32
    • Lystra: Acts 14:6; Gal 1:2
    • Pergamum: Rev 1:11
    • Philadelphia: Rev 1:11
    • Philippi: Acts 16:12
    • Puteoli, Italy: Acts 28:13-14
    • Rome: Rom 1:7
    • Sardis: Rev 1:11
    • Sharon: Acts 9:35
    • Smyrna: Rev 1:11
    • Tarsus: Acts 9:30
    • Thessalonica: Acts 17:1
    • Thyatira: Rev 1:11; Acts 16:14
    • Troas: Acts 20:6-7
Regions of churches:

  1. Region of Phoencia: Acts 11:19
  2. Region of Samaria: Acts 8:14, 25
  3. Churches of Judea: Gal 1:22
  4. Churches of Galatia: Gal 1:2
  5. Churches of Asia: 1 Cor 16:19
  6. Churches of Macedonia: 2 Cor 8:1
just go read the shepherd of hermas, there is a vision of what the church is in that book. http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html
 
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That's a lot of reading. Can you give an overview first? Perhaps it may spark my interest.

here is a link to two different translations and a overview of it http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/shepherd.html

it is the most terrible overview ever!

it's about a saint that has visions and gets taught some things by an angel like the prophets used to get taught. the main vision in that book is the vision he has of the church.
 
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If there wasn't already a christian community on Patmos, you can be sure that St John established one there in due time. It's what the Apostles did. Where ever God sent them they preached the Gospel, whether free or in chains made no difference.
I like your positive attitude and educated guess. But it isn't a substantiated fact.
 
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Congregating with other believers on a regular basic under a structured format is clearly taught in the bible and practiced through church history.

Of course there are exceptions due to health issues or living in isolated areas and so forth.
I saw frequency in their, but not a rigidity this suggests. Perhaps you could substantiate.
History is often a record of repeating mistakes.
 
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