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[com7fy8]

"And He said to them, 'Take heed and beware of covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of the things he possesses.'" (Luke 12:15)

"Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have. For He Himself has said, 'I will never leave you nor forsake you.'" (Hebrews 13:5)

So, most of all is we have God Himself. And to me Hebrews 11:6 means that faith is first for seeking God for Himself. And this is where our attention is, most of all > so that we are personally submitting to Him so we share with Him, all the time . . . more and better as we grow in Jesus.

 

[Extraneous]

"And He said to them, 'Take heed and beware of covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of the things he possesses.'" (Luke 12:15)

"Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have. For He Himself has said, 'I will never leave you nor forsake you.'" (Hebrews 13:5)

So, most of all is we have God Himself. And to me Hebrews 11:6 means that faith is first for seeking God for Himself. And this is where our attention is, most of all > so that we are personally submitting to Him so we share with Him, all the time . . . more and better as we grow in Jesus.

You don't need money to enjoy the abundant life.

Isaiah 55 “Ho! Everyone who thirsts,
Come to the waters;
And you who have no money,
Come, buy and eat.
Yes, come, buy wine and milk
Without money and without price.
2 Why do you spend money for what is not bread,
And your wages for what does not satisfy?
Listen carefully to Me, and eat what is good,
And let your soul delight itself in abundance.
3 Incline your ear, and come to Me.
Hear, and your soul shall live;


John 6:27 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him.”

James 2:5 Listen, my beloved brethren: Has God not chosen the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which He promised to those who love Him?

Acts 4:33 And with great power the apostles gave witness to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And great grace was upon them all. 34 Nor was there anyone among them who lacked; for all who were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, 35 and laid them at the apostles’ feet; and they distributed to each as anyone had need.

2 Corinthians 8:13 For I do not mean that others should be eased and you burdened; 14 but by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may supply their lack, that their abundance also may supply your lack—that there may be equality. 15 As it is written, “He who gathered much had nothing left over, and he who gathered little had no lack.”[a]

 

[sunlover1]

1 John 2:16-17

For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world. 17 The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever.

Can't help but wonder why you'd post that in response to my post.
All of these passages show God blessing.
Then you post how lust and pride are not from God.
What does that have to do with this?:
Gen 24
And the LORD hath blessed my master greatly;
and he is become great: and he hath given him flocks,
and herds, and silver, and gold, and menservants,
and maidservants, and camels, and asses.
Lot and Abraham had so much that the land couldn't hold them both.
And it was a blessing from God.

Deut 8:18
But thou shalt remember the LORD thy God:
for it is he that giveth thee power to get wealth,
that he may establish his covenant which he sware
unto thy fathers, as it is this day.

Gal 3
He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham
might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, '
so that by faith we might receive
the promise of the Spirit.

 

[sunlover1]

You don't need money to enjoy the abundant life.

No, and you can be rich and not enjoy life at all.

 

[JackRT]

Hebrew law regarded the dog as an unclean animal and Jesus was an observant Jew. He would not even own a $16 dog.

 

[ViaCrucis]

What??! LOL

At a Clinton rally former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright implied that women who don't vote for Clinton are traitors saying that there is a special place in hell for women who don't help one another. It was hyperbolic of course, what offended many people was that it seemed to suggest that women aren't allowed to vote their conscience but are obligated to vote with their biology. That a woman should vote for Hillary simply because Hillary has the same body parts as they do, which naturally offended a lot of people. It also didn't help that around the same time Gloria Steinem then suggested that young female supporters of Bernie Sanders are only pro-Bernie because they want "the boys" to like them. There was something hugely ironic in two major feminist icons being--let's face it--tremendously sexist against women.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[com7fy8]

Jesus was an observant Jew. He would not even own a $16 dog.

God "gives us richly all things to enjoy." (in 1 Timothy 6:17)

So, I can enjoy a doggie, without owning it and having to pay veterinarian bills and other expenses. And I understand a dog can need attention and emotional care which takes time. I can enjoy someone else's doggie, without needing to invest so much time and money in him or her.

The expense is not only the money, then, but the time and how we become emotionally in investing in a dog.

My time and emotional development, instead, can go to learning how to relate and share with humans. Dogs seem to be too easy to get along with, and I myself need to find out how to love and relate with people.

So, I can enjoy things without owning them or using them. I might, also, enjoy a chocolate, simply by sniffing its nice aroma. Enjoying doesn't need to mean owning and controlling and consuming

 

[JackRT]

The original question was about Jesus not about you or whoever wrote 1 Timothy.

 

[Extraneous]

The original question was about Jesus not about you or whoever wrote 1 Timothy.

I may be mistaken, but im not sure that the OT law prohibits owning unclean animals, but only eating them. However correct me if im wrong.

Not to mention, Christ said that's food doesn't defile a man, which overrules OT food purity laws, it seems.

Dogs are good at search and rescue, it seems that God may have given them to man for a reason.

 

[Te're'sa]

I always thought clean v. unclean animals was about consumption only. Pigs being a special case because they seemed to serve no other purpose than to be eaten... Live and learn, I suppose.

My apologies for commenting when I didn't watch the video, but the best reason for not watching is on page 2 or 3 somewhere - although the stage where he stood was, perhaps, more indicative to me than his face. I didn't need to watch the video to know that it contained nothing but prosperity gospel manure. The "argument" that God's chosen people will by default be rich is common as dirt, and about as accurate as a broken digital watch.

 

[JackRT]

I may be mistaken, but im not sure that the OT law prohibits owning unclean animals, but only eating them. However correct me if im wrong.

Not to mention, Christ said that's food doesn't defile a man, which overrules OT food purity laws, it seems.

Dogs are good at search and rescue, it seems that God may have given them to man for a reason.

I share your admiration and love of dogs. I was simply pointing out the beliefs and attitudes in biblical times.

 

[Caval]

Yikes what a spectacle. I cant believe those people are buying into all that.
Like someone else said..to rescue an abused dog at a high price, yes.
Jesus loves all purebreds and mutts. What he wouldn't want is for us humans to use anything as a status symbol, and I'm positive he wouldn't want it preached disguised as his word.

 

[com7fy8]

The original question was about Jesus not about you or whoever wrote 1 Timothy.

I see a connection. We are asked if Jesus would own a $16,000 doggie. And my offered point is how God "gives us richly all things to enjoy," we have in 1 Timothy 6:17. This can show how God is about loving us by having us enjoy things. And Jesus is God's Son, who is like our Father who wants us to enjoy "all things"; so, Jesus possibly would not buy the dog, but He could enjoy it.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I always thought clean v. unclean animals was about consumption only.
Pigs being a special case because they seemed to serve no other purpose than to be eaten... Live and learn, I suppose...................

I may be mistaken, but im not sure that the OT law prohibits owning unclean animals, but only eating them. However correct me if im wrong.

Not to mention, Christ said that's food doesn't defile a man, which overrules OT food purity laws, it seems.

Dogs are good at search and rescue, it seems that God may have given them to man for a reason.

There might be some truth in what you say.
Evidently, Jews and Muslims can raise 'em, but are forbidden to eat 'em. [Not sure about raising dogs for dog meat tho?]

http://www.smh.com.au/news/africa/p...nks-to-tourists/2008/04/01/1206850863399.html
Pig farms bloom in Muslim Morocco

Shunned by most Muslim countries where pork consumption is a religious taboo, pig farming is booming in Morocco thanks to a growing tourist industry and pragmatic breeders....................

Morocco's swine industry comprises some 5,000 pigs raised on seven farms located near Agadir, Casablanca and the north-central city of Taza.
The breeders include a Christian, two Jews and four Muslims.

Annual production is currently estimated at 270 tonnes of meat, bringing in some 12 million dirhams (1.6 million dollars) in revenue.

The breeders include Jean Yves Yoel Chriquia, a 32-year-old Jew who owns the country's main pork processing factory along with a farm of 1000 pigs. Chriquia also buys pigs from Samouk and another local farmer at 22 dirhams a kilo.........................................................

2 Corin 6:
17 "Therefore, COME OUT FROM THEIR MIDST AND BE SEPARATE," says the Lord. "AND DO NOT TOUCH WHAT IS UNCLEAN;
And I will welcome you.

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http://www.herealittletherealittle.net/index.cfm?page_name=Lazarus

Matt 15:27
Then she answered saying: "yea Lord! for even the little-dogs eating from the crumbs/scraps, the ones falling from the table of the lords of them;"
[Mark 7:27/Luke 16:21]

Luke 16:21
and yearning to be satisfied from the crumbs/scraps falling from the table of the rich-one,
but also the dogs coming licked upon the sores of him.

Philip 3:2
Beware of the dogs!/kunaV <2965> beware of-the evil workers! beware of-the circumcision! [Psalm 22:16/Isaiah 56:11/Revelation 22:15]

Reve 22:15
Outside the dogs/kuneV <2965> and the sorcerers and the prostituters and the muderers and the idolaters
and every one being fond of and doing falseness.
18 "And I will be a father to you, And you shall be sons and daughters to Me," Says the Lord Almighty.





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[Extraneous]

I see a connection. We are asked if Jesus would own a $16,000 doggie. And my offered point is how God "gives us richly all things to enjoy," we have in 1 Timothy 6:17. This can show how God is about loving us by having us enjoy things. And Jesus is God's Son, who is like our Father who wants us to enjoy "all things"; so, Jesus possibly would not buy the dog, but He could enjoy it.

I always saw the scripture that says "God gives us all things to enjoy" to mean that God gives us all things himself. The Church of Acts 2 and 4 shared all things, and they didn't consider anything they owned as their own, and they had all things in common, sharing all things. 2 Corinthians 8 seems to teach us more about this. No one had more than they needed and no lacked anything either. They gathered together daily at the temple and shared all things, just as the Jews gathered manna daily and shared it as well. (Exodus 16). I never noticed the similarity in how the Acts church gathered daily, and how the Jews gathered manna daily, and shared it. Only today did i see this connection. Fascinating. Notice also how God used this as a test, to see if the Jews would obey his instructions.


Acts Acts 2:44 Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, 45 and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need.

46 So continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart, 47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the church[h] daily those who were being saved.

4:32 Now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul; neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common. 33 And with great power the apostles gave witness to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And great grace was upon them all. 34 Nor was there anyone among them who lacked; for all who were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, 35 and laid them at the apostles’ feet; and they distributed to each as anyone had need.

2 Corinthians 8:13 For I do not mean that others should be eased and you burdened; 14 but by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may supply their lack, that their abundance also may supply your lack—that there may be equality. 15 As it is written, “He who gathered much had nothing left over, and he who gathered little had no lack.”[a]

Exodus 16:4 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you. And the people shall go out and gather a certain quota every day, that I may test them, whether they will walk in My law or not. 5 And it shall be on the sixth day that they shall prepare what they bring in, and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily.”

17 Then the children of Israel did so and gathered, some more, some less. 18 So when they measured it by omers, he who gathered much had nothing left over, and he who gathered little had no lack.

 

[timewerx]

Can't help but wonder why you'd post that in response to my post.
All of these passages show God blessing.
Then you post how lust and pride are not from God.
What does that have to do with this?:
Gen 24
Deut 8:18
Gal 3

Would you feel blessed by having abundance in things you do not love?

1 John 2:15
Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them

 

[Extraneous]

Would you feel blessed by having abundance in things you do not love?

1 John 2:15
Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them

1 John 2:Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father but is of the world. 17 And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever.

(Chapter) 3:16 By this we know love, because He laid down His life for us. And we also ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. 17 But whoever has this world’s goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him?

24 Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. (see Mathew 6:19-21)




The Lords commandment:

Mathew 6:19 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; 20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.


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[Extraneous]

Its all about the heart. We reap what sow. By obeying Christ, we abide in him. Its done in faith.



Galatians 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love.

Romans 2:29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.


John 15:6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.

1 John 3:24 Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us

 

[Sabertooth]

Hebrew law regarded the dog as an unclean animal and Jesus was an observant Jew. He would not even own a $16 dog.

OT Caleb was named for a dog, so Hebrews must have had respect for them on some level...

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

OT Caleb was named for a dog, so Hebrews must have had respect for them on some level...

Wonder how many people are named after dogs and vice versa.........

http://www.bible-history.com/links.php?cat=39&sub=447&cat_name=Manners+&+Customs&subcat_name=Dogs

Dog's in Biblical Times DOGS
There are two kinds of dogs that are referred to in the Bible.
First, There is the wolf-like, short-haired creature, that stands guard over the tent or the house, and which barks fiercely at strangers that come that way. He will eat whatever garbage is tossed to him, and in the evening he is usually heard barking about the city (cf. Psalm 59:6). Sometimes he is allowed to be under the table ready to receive scraps given to him (cf. Matthew 15:27).

Exo 22:31
“And you shall be holy men to Me: you shall not eat meat torn by beasts in the field; you shall throw it to the dogs.

Matt 15:27
She answered saying: "yea Lord! for even the little-dogs eat from the crumbs/scraps, the ones falling from the table of the lords of them;"
[Mark 7:27/Luke 16:21]

Second, there is the shepherd dog that goes out with the shepherd to help him in rounding up the sheep. Job speaks of these animals as "the dogs of my flock" (Job 30:1). Because dogs were so often regarded as mere scavengers, the Bible does not use the word "dog" as Westerners are accustomed to think of this animal. The price of a dog was never brought to the house of the LORD (Deuteronomy 23:18). To call anybody "a dog" was to consider him as very low down indeed (Revelation 22:15). The attitude of the Orientals toward dogs needs to be kept in mind in interpreting the Scriptures that refer to them. [Manners And Customs of Bible Lands]

Dogs in Easton's Bible Dictionary frequently mentioned both in the Old and New Testaments. Dogs were used by the Hebrews as a watch for their houses (Isa. 56:10), and for guarding their flocks (Job 30:1).