70th Week - It Is Still Pending

[iamlamad]

You should post verses that supports your argument. These scriptures are telling me how wrong you are. They show the Father and the Son as two individuals, what I've been telling you all along.

God is three individuals in one: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. All the thing God has done in the bible were done as different individuals. Upon creation, God made the heavens and the earth as the Father, not the Son. When God came into the world in the first coming, He came as the Son, not the Father. When God comes to live within each of us, He comes as the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit. The bible is not a complicated book, you don't have to beat your head on the keyboard trying to figure out who did what. It's all a matter of accepting the truth in the bible and everything easily falls into place with harmony when you accept it with a futurist, non-preterist perspective.

Two individuals? This is not what the trinity historically has been. You are totally and completely in error saying this.

Are YOU three individuals ( Spirit being one, soul been another, and body being the third)? I hope you are wise enough to say no! You are ONE individual made up of Spirit soul and body.

Did you forget that WE as humans are made after His likeness and according to His image? In other words, He made us similar to Him. He made us as Spirit, soul and body, so God is a triune being like us - because He MADE us like Him.

So GOD is not three individuals, God IS ONE individual that IS a spirit being made up of Body (the part of God Abraham and Moses SAW) Spirit (the Holy Spirit) and Soul: the WILL part of God: God the FAther always seen seated on the throne.

In Creation, God the Father was the WILL of creation. The Holy Spirit knew exactly what the Father wanted, but waited....for the WORD to be spoken. The WORD was the part of God that later took on human flesh and became JESUS.

 

[iamlamad]

Pppppppssssssshhhhhhh
You can believe anything thing you want. But I follow instructions 'cause I ain't smart enough to disobey 'em:

Daniel 12:4 But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, until the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.”
9 He said, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are shut up and sealed until the time of the end.​

DaDad

Those words were spoken to DANIEL!

If you are trying to follow these words, why then are you even TRYING to understand? Could it be we are AT the end?

 

[iamlamad]

From Wikipedia:

"Modern scholars seeking to understand the history of the Tanakh’s text use a range of sources other than the Masoretic Text.[3] These include early Greek (Septuagint) and Syriac (Peshitta) translations, the Samaritan Pentateuch, the Dead Sea Scrolls and quotations from rabbinic manuscripts. Most of these are older than the Masoretic text and often contradict it."

So much for Dead Sea Scrolls validation. Where is that lie found?

The Masoretic text was a product of Jewish falsification.

Do you have bibles in your home? If this is true, just throw them all away. We cannot even trust the New Testament because it has so many quotes from the Old. I guess then, according to you, we are DOOMED.

The truth is, there was very little differences in all of these texts and most were spelling. If you doubt this, then show us proof: show us a text from somewhere else that disagrees with a Tanakh text.

 

[DaDad]

Those words were spoken to DANIEL!
If you are trying to follow these words, why then are you even TRYING to understand?

Ain't no "trying to understand", -- simply understanding.

Could it be we are AT the end?

Duh? Ya think so? -- It never occurred to me. "The Time Of The End"? -- NOW??? Nah, what idiot would believe that something spoken some 2,500 years ago has ANY relevance to TODAY. And what idiot would believe that History can be WRITTEN and subsequently OCCURS. It's CRAZY how some people think!

DaDad

 

[jgr]

I don't disagree that there is no GOD, no GOD's Word, no Jesus, no Prophets, and no Jews, -- on the moon. But on earth, all these exist according to GOD's plan. We're given GOD's Word to make sure we know enough about HIM to make a decision. And that Word is reliable, otherwise see the former.

And let me say, you risk your own eternity when you accuse GOD's chosen.
Thanks,
DaDad

Who are God's Chosen?

1. Jewish DNA
2. Jewish culture
3. Jewish religion
4. Faith and obedience in and to His Son

Awaiting your verdict.

 

[jgr]

Do you have bibles in your home? If this is true, just throw them all away. We cannot even trust the New Testament because it has so many quotes from the Old. I guess then, according to you, we are DOOMED.

The truth is, there was very little differences in all of these texts and most were spelling. If you doubt this, then show us proof: show us a text from somewhere else that disagrees with a Tanakh text.

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[DaDad]

Who are God's Chosen?

1. Jewish DNA
2. Jewish culture
3. Jewish religion
4. Faith and obedience in and to His Son

Awaiting your verdict.

Well, let's start with JEWISH.
Thanks,
DaDad

 

[BABerean2]

Well, let's start with JEWISH.

Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh;
Rom 2:29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.


Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, "And to seeds," as of many, but as of one, "AND TO YOUR SEED," who is Christ.

Gal 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

 

[DaDad]

...

Wow, there sure are a LOT of "christians" who don't like Jews.

I hope they can explain their apparent distaste to GOD, because I'm quite sure HE has a different perspective:

Rev. 7:4 And I heard the number of the sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand sealed, out of every tribe of the sons of Israel, ...​

... and I wouldn't want to be the one 'splainin.

Thanks,
DaDad

 

[jgr]

Well, let's start with JEWISH.
Thanks,
DaDad

So ANYTHING JEWISH is automatically Chosen?

 

[jgr]

Do you have bibles in your home? If this is true, just throw them all away. We cannot even trust the New Testament because it has so many quotes from the Old. I guess then, according to you, we are DOOMED.

The truth is, there was very little differences in all of these texts and most were spelling. If you doubt this, then show us proof: show us a text from somewhere else that disagrees with a Tanakh text.

Non-exhaustive comparison of Septuagint LXX to Masoretic CJB (Complete Jewish Bible):

Psalms 22:16 the word “pierced” has been replaced by “lion”.

Psalm 145:13 omitted entirely.

Isaiah 53:11 the word “light” is omitted.

Psalms 151 omitted entirely.

Exodus 1: The number 75 replaced by 70.

Genesis 10:24 some generations removed.

Deuteronomy 32:8 “Angels Of Elohim” replaced with “children of Israel.”

Jeremiah 10 verses 6 and 7 have been added in the Masoretic.

Psalm 96:10 “Say among the nations, YHWH reigns from the wood” omitted.

Isaiah 19:18 “city of righteousness” changed to the “city of the sun” or in some versions “the city of destruction.”

Isaiah 61:1 “recovery of sight to the blind.”. Omitted.

In Psalm 40:6 “a body you have prepared for me” was replaced by “you opened my ears.”

Deuteronomy 32:43 ‘Let all the messengers of Elohim worship him.’” Omitted.

Genesis 4:8: “Let us go into the field” is omitted.

Deuteronomy 32:43. Moses’ song is shortened.

Isaiah 7:14. “Virgin” replaced by “young woman.”

 

[jgr]

Well, let's start with JEWISH.
Thanks,
DaDad

Are these Chosen?

1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2 John 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

 

[DaDad]

Rev. 7:4 And I heard the number of the sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand sealed, out of every tribe of the sons of Israel, ...​

So ANYTHING JEWISH is automatically Chosen?

Are these Chosen?

I have my thoughts, but you're asking the wrong person.
And if you ask me whether you're "saved" or not, -- I'll tell you the same thing!

Thanks,
DaDad

 

[jgr]

I have my thoughts, but you're asking the wrong person.
And if you ask me whether you're "saved" or not, -- I'll tell you the same thing!

Thanks,
DaDad

Do your thoughts differ from Scripture?

 

[DaDad]

Do your thoughts differ from Scripture?

Well, -- I didn't find "jgr" in Scripture, -- so it would seem that my thoughts AGREE!
DaDad

 

[jgr]

Well, -- I didn't find "jgr" in Scripture, -- so it would seem that my thoughts AGREE!
DaDad

Good. Do Jews confess, or do they not confess, that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh?

 

[DaDad]

Non-exhaustive comparison of Septuagint LXX to Masoretic CJB (Complete Jewish Bible): ...

That's not how you compare one to another.

1. You have to find a document which pre-dates the most ancient Masoretic and Septuagint Texts.
   
2. You compare that document to each version and see which most closely matches.
3. You accept the results.

Apologetics Press :: Reason & Revelation
April 1995 - 15[4]:25-30

The Dead Sea Scrolls and Biblical Integrity
by Garry K. Brantley, M.A., M.Div.

...
THE SCROLLS AND THE MASORETIC TEXT
...
Critical scholars questioned the accuracy of the MT, which formed the basis of our English versions of the Old Testament, since there was such a large chronological gap between it and the autographs. Because of this uncertainty, scholars often “corrected” the text with considerable freedom.
...
A comparison of the MT to this earlier text revealed the remarkable accuracy with which scribes copied the sacred texts. Accordingly, the integrity of the Hebrew Bible was confirmed, which generally has heightened its respect among scholars and drastically reduced textual alteration.
...
CRITICAL SCHOLARSHIP, DANIEL, AND THE SCROLLS
...
Daniel was peculiarly safeguarded to the extent that we have at our disposal parts of all chapters of Daniel, except chapters 9 and 12.
...
INTEGRITY OF THE TEXT
...
Further, a comparison of the Septuagint translation (Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible) with the MT revealed tremendous disparity in length and content between the two texts. Due to these and other considerations, critical scholars assigned little value to the MT rendition of Daniel.

Once again, however, the findings at Qumran have confirmed the integrity of Daniel’s text. Gerhard Hasel listed several strands of evidence from the Daniel fragments found at Qumran that support the integrity of the MT (see 1992, 5[2]:50). First, for the most part, the Dead Sea Scroll manuscripts of Daniel are very consistent in content among themselves, containing very few variants. Second, the Qumran fragments conform very closely to the MT overall, with only a few rare variants in the former that side with the Septuagint version. Third, the transitions from Hebrew to Aramaic are preserved in the Qumran fragments. Based on such overwhelming data, it is evident that the MT is a well-preserved rendition of Daniel. In short, Qumran assures us that we can be reasonably confident that the Daniel text on which our English translations are based is one of integrity. Practically speaking, this means that we have at our disposal, through faithful translations of the original, the truth God revealed to Daniel centuries ago.
...​

Hmmmmm, so THAT's how it's done! Whoda thunk?
DaDad

 

[DaDad]

Good. Do Jews confess, or do they not confess, that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh?

The 144,000 MOST CERTAINLY WILL. Did you think otherwise?
DaDad

 

[jgr]

The 144,000 MOST CERTAINLY WILL. Did you think otherwise?
DaDad

What about Jews today?

 

[DaDad]

What about Jews today?

Where do you think the 144,000 come from? -- Jesus' time?
DaDad