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If you read Jeremiah 4:23-25 you will realize that it talk about a destruction at a time that there was no man ...There is a telling of days beginning in Jeremiah 4:23 with, “without form and void” and "had no light" with “heavens” as the root word.
The telling of days in Jeremiah 4:23 begins on the first day, after Adam dies in Genesis 5:5; hence, "there was no man," in Jeremiah 4:25. The second day may begin Genesis 6:1.If you read Jeremiah 4:23-25 you will realize that it talk about a destruction at a time that there was no man ....
Jeremiah 4:24
24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
Yes; the second day, beginning Genesis 6:1Jeremiah 4:25
25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. ...That is the destruction of the world that then was mentioned in
2 Peter 3:5-6
5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished
My faith rests in the King James Version of the Bible, verbatim, as is. Not a single character may be changed in any way.Genesis 1:2
2 And the earth BECAME without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
I have provided a study demonstrating with Scriptures that God have not created the Earth without form and void .It seem that you have missed it.*
The word WAS in Genesis 1:2 And the earth WAS without form, and void-is a mistranslation from the Hebrew word . The original meaning in that context means BECAME.
And the earth BECAME without form, and void
The KJV is by far the best ENGLISH TRANSLATION but that is not the ORIGINAL LANGUAGE into which the OLD TESTAMENT was written.My faith rests in the King James Version of the Bible, verbatim, as is. Not a single character may be changed, in any way.
I believe that a complete copy of the written word of God, must be written in the letters of three languages. Like the letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew of the superscription nailed to the cross with Jesus; the KJV Bible is written in Hebrew, and Greek, and English. Luke 23:38 & John 19:20.The KJV is by far the best ENGLISH TRANSLATION but that is not the ORIGINAL LANGUAGE into which the OLD TESTAMENT was written.
Hebrew is the original language of the Old Testament [the Pentateuch/Torah] .
Here the definition of the Hebrew word hayah
hayah is Word 1961 from Strongs KJV Hebrew to English concordance
hayah
haw-yaw
a primitive root (compare 'hava'' (1933)); to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary):--beacon, X altogether, be(-come), accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-)self, require, X use.
Source:
http://www.htmlbible.com/sacrednamebiblecom/kjvstrongs/STRHEB19.htm#S1961
Or see:
biblehub
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/1961.htm
hayah: to fall out, come to pass, become, be.
Original Word: הָיָה. Part of Speech: Verb Transliteration: hayah. Phonetic Spelling: (haw-yaw)
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Or see the translation from the Hebrew Interlinear Bible (OT)
English text under the Hebrew letters.
NOTE Transliteration is for identification of the letters - NOT phonetic
Index:
http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Hebrew_Index.htm
'Heavens' refers to different places of existence and refers also to different times of existence .Now, I realize that many won't agree with this explanation and understanding. That's ok, but I did want to put it out there for others who may be following along with these explanations that seem to claim that 'heavens' refers to times of existence rather than merely the different places of existence.
God bless you all,
In Christ, Ted
Your simplicity makes things more complicated.God and the angels does not reside in the atmosphere of the Earth where the planes and birds fly.2 Corinthians 12:4 looks like the heaven and the earth of the third day. So, it's very simple; third heaven, third day. We mustn't complicate things which aren't complicated.
Are you able to read Hebrew, Greek and Latin ?I believe that a complete copy of the written word of God, must be written in the letters of three languages. Like the letters of Greek and Latin, and Hebrew of the superscription nailed on the cross with Jesus. The KJV Bible is written in Hebrew, and Greek and English. Luke 23:38 & John 19:20.
I can read and understand English, and that appears to be enough.Are you able to read Hebrew, Greek and Latin ?
Here it is :
Polyglot Bible Index
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/poly/
Here a great tool also.
Original Hebrew to English.Check out Genesis1:2 for starter.
http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Hebrew_Index.htm
I see!That's why English is also included + a lexicon .All that in a click.I can read and understand English, and that appears to be enough.
Do you agree that Genesis 1:1 tell us about the moment in time when God created the Heaven and the Earth perfect and fully functional?....Hi riberra,
As I admitted, I understand that not everyone would agree. I also understand that different uses of the word 'heaven' may well refer to different places and that different places referred to as 'heaven' may exist at different times. However, that doesn't have any bearing on my explanation.
God bless you,
In Christ, Ted
Effectively ...Genesis 1:1 talk about the Creation by God of the physical universe the COSMOS which include the stars, and the Earth who was created by God fully functional and habitable right there at that moment....So, I just want to go on record that I don't believe that this passage refers to the 'heaven' in which God resides.
God bless you,
In Christ, Ted
That interpretation contradict the words of God who said that The Heaven ie the COSMOS came first in the order of creation of the physical universe -and [after] the Earth.Hi riberra,
No, I don't read the second verse that way. Genesis 1:1 speaks as a summary statement that in the beginning of the this realm God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:2 begins to expose the details of the steps that explain in what manner God accomplished Genesis 1:1. He created the earth, the actual physical planet first. There was nothing else in all of the universe
Isn't it amazing.I see!That's why English is also included + a lexicon .All that in a click.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/poly/gen001.htm
No, Peter learned from Paul and 2 Peter 3:15 uses the word, "also," as a link to the stars, in Genesis 1:16.Are you saying that Paul learned that method from PETER?
2 Peter 3:3-8 was written by PETER not by Paul.
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