60 Minutes edits Harris Interview

probinson · Oct 14, 2024

In the interview, veteran journalist Bill Whitaker asked presidential candidate Harris about whether Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu was listening to the Biden-Harris administration. Harris offered a response that can be generously characterized as word salad: “Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel that were very much prompted by, or a result of, many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.”

Or at least, that’s what her answer was in a teaser clip from the interview that ran on Sunday’s Face the Nation, which was widely derided on social media.

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But by the time the interview aired in a prime-time 60 Minutes special on Monday night, Harris’s answer to the same question was very different. The Democratic nominee offered a relatively clear, succinct response: “We’re not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the United States to be clear about where we stand on the need for this war to end.”

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The edit suggests a possible violation of the CBS News standards guide, which states that “answers to different questions may not be combined to give the impression of one continuous response.

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We asked 60 Minutes if they’d make the transcript available, and why they hadn’t done so already. They did not respond.

‘60 Minutes’: Release the Unedited Kamala Harris Transcript

Is CBS guilty of journalistic malpractice? There’s an easy way to find out.

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chevyontheriver · Oct 14, 2024

probinson said:
In the interview, veteran journalist Bill Whitaker asked presidential candidate Harris about whether Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu was listening to the Biden-Harris administration. Harris offered a response that can be generously characterized as word salad: “Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel that were very much prompted by, or a result of, many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.”

Or at least, that’s what her answer was in a teaser clip from the interview that ran on Sunday’s Face the Nation, which was widely derided on social media.

...

But by the time the interview aired in a prime-time 60 Minutes special on Monday night, Harris’s answer to the same question was very different. The Democratic nominee offered a relatively clear, succinct response: “We’re not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the United States to be clear about where we stand on the need for this war to end.”

...

The edit suggests a possible violation of the CBS News standards guide, which states that “answers to different questions may not be combined to give the impression of one continuous response.

...

We asked 60 Minutes if they’d make the transcript available, and why they hadn’t done so already. They did not respond.

‘60 Minutes’: Release the Unedited Kamala Harris Transcript

Is CBS guilty of journalistic malpractice? There’s an easy way to find out.

www.thefp.com

The transcript will become available November 6th, after it makes no difference.

Fantine · Oct 14, 2024

Haven't we thoroughly explored this already? The fact that she has appeared in numerous live shows lately--on television, radio, and online--should be enough evidence that she clearly thinks on her feet and knows her stuff. Tomorrow she'll be with Charlemagne the God, a podcast host with a huge black male following. She's reaching out, live, authentically. 60 Minutes is over.

FenderTL5 · Oct 14, 2024

probinson said:
In the interview, veteran journalist Bill Whitaker asked presidential candidate Harris about whether Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu was listening to the Biden-Harris administration. Harris offered a response that can be generously characterized as word salad: “Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel that were very much prompted by, or a result of, many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.”

Or at least, that’s what her answer was in a teaser clip from the interview that ran on Sunday’s Face the Nation, which was widely derided on social media.

...

But by the time the interview aired in a prime-time 60 Minutes special on Monday night, Harris’s answer to the same question was very different. The Democratic nominee offered a relatively clear, succinct response: “We’re not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the United States to be clear about where we stand on the need for this war to end.”

...

The edit suggests a possible violation of the CBS News standards guide, which states that “answers to different questions may not be combined to give the impression of one continuous response.

...

We asked 60 Minutes if they’d make the transcript available, and why they hadn’t done so already. They did not respond.

‘60 Minutes’: Release the Unedited Kamala Harris Transcript

Is CBS guilty of journalistic malpractice? There’s an easy way to find out.

www.thefp.com

If I were to guess, the teaser was rushed to air soon after the interview.
The answer that aired was truncated.
given Harris' propensity at times for long winded answers (that some deem "word salad") it would make sense. However, as long as the answer was truncated, as-in edited for time, and it was in response to the question asked, then it would not be a violation of “answers to different questions may not be combined to give the impression of one continuous response."

That's just a guess on my part.

DaisyDay · Oct 14, 2024

Are interviews ever shown unedited?

iluvatar5150 · Oct 14, 2024

DaisyDay said:
Are interviews ever shown unedited?

The CNN interview was pretty close.

I watched the first half of the 60 Minutes interview and I'll say that, purely from a technical perspective, the editing was just bad. It felt like they were trying to go for a specific kind of "60 Minutes" aesthetic that was just... ill-conceived. They cut out too much dead air, so the pacing of the conversation felt unnatural; and at one point, the interviewer added narration over top of video of Harris talking. I haven't watched 60 Minutes in years, but that narration bit almost made me angry. Without the full transcript, it was hard to get a read on how much of the substance was altered by the editing, but it certainly made things feel phony.

FenderTL5 · Oct 14, 2024

DaisyDay said:
Are interviews ever shown unedited?

Almost never. I'm sure there are exceptions.

probinson · Oct 14, 2024

Fantine said:
Haven't we thoroughly explored this already? The fact that she has appeared in numerous live shows lately--on television, radio, and online--should be enough evidence that she clearly thinks on her feet and knows her stuff. Tomorrow she'll be with Charlemagne the God, a podcast host with a huge black male following. She's reaching out, live, authentically. 60 Minutes is over.

To be clear, it sounds like you don't care if 60 Minutes edited her interview to make it sound like she said something she didn't.

probinson · Oct 14, 2024

FenderTL5 said:
If I were to guess, the teaser was rushed to air soon after the interview.
The answer that aired was truncated.
given Harris' propensity at times for long winded answers (that some deem "word salad") it would make sense. However, as long as the answer was truncated, as-in edited for time, and it was in response to the question asked, then it would not be a violation of “answers to different questions may not be combined to give the impression of one continuous response."

That's just a guess on my part.

Then why doesn't CBS just release the full transcript so we can read for ourselves what was said so that we don't have to speculate?

probinson · Oct 14, 2024

iluvatar5150 said:
The CNN interview was pretty close.

I watched the first half of the 60 Minutes interview and I'll say that, purely from a technical perspective, the editing was just bad. It felt like they were trying to go for a specific kind of "60 Minutes" aesthetic that was just... ill-conceived. They cut out too much dead air, so the pacing of the conversation felt unnatural; and at one point, the interviewer added narration over top of video of Harris talking. I haven't watched 60 Minutes in years, but that narration bit almost made me angry. Without the full transcript, it was hard to get a read on how much of the substance was altered by the editing, but it certainly made things feel phony.

Agreed. The voice-over of Harris' answers was particularly egregious. I don't want to hear Bill Whitaker's take on what he thinks Harris said. I want to hear it from her directly.

public hermit · Oct 14, 2024

Fantine said:
Tomorrow she'll be with Charlemagne the God, a podcast host with a huge black male following. She's reaching out, live, authentically. 60 Minutes is over.

It's wild how podcasts have become a platform for candidates, but it makes sense. I'm sure she'll do as fine as anyone can on a podcast. There's a lot of room for saying stupid things. That podcast, in particular, does makes sense at this point in her campaign.

probinson · Oct 14, 2024

DaisyDay said:
Are interviews ever shown unedited?

Every video you have ever watched is "edited". At a bare minimum, every video contains two cuts: the start and end.

So perhaps a better word here is "altered". The fact that CBS showed two different answers to the same question at different airings calls into question how Harris actually answered the question.

Of course, CBS could put all of this speculation to rest by simply releasing the full transcript, which makes one wonder why they haven't done so.

rambot · Oct 14, 2024

probinson said:
In the interview, veteran journalist Bill Whitaker asked presidential candidate Harris about whether Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu was listening to the Biden-Harris administration. Harris offered a response that can be generously characterized as word salad: “Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel that were very much prompted by, or a result of, many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.”

Sorry. In what way is that a word salad? While it's a long sentence and the clause "or a result of" makes it bulky, I don't notice any glaring grammar and syntax errors.

She says "those things israel is doing happenned there because we said what we wanted to happen and other for a few other reasons".

probinson · Oct 14, 2024

rambot said:
Sorry. In what way is that a word salad? While it's a long sentence and the clause "or a result of" makes it bulky, I don't notice any glaring grammar and syntax errors.

"Word salad" doesn't mean that there are grammar and syntax errors. Harris dances around the question by stringing a bunch of words together without really saying anything at all.

FenderTL5 · Oct 14, 2024

probinson said:
Then why doesn't CBS just release the full transcript so we can read for ourselves what was said so that we don't have to speculate?

I don't work for CBS, although I did do some freelance/contract work for a CBS affiliate once upon a time, so I can't answer for them.
However, I would tend to think "as-is" drives more traffic to the site with people comparing the clips. More traffic/clicks equals more $$$$.
Since Reagan eliminated the Fairness Doctrine, they're under no obligation to check bias. Couple that with the deregulation of the 80s/90s and all that matters is the $$$$.
Then again, I'm still only speculating.

rambot · Oct 14, 2024

probinson said:
"Word salad" doesn't mean that there are grammar and syntax errors. Harris dances around the question by stringing a bunch of words together without really saying anything at all.

Oh. That's an incorrect use of "word salad"

I just explained what she said and while it was cumbersome it delivered a dechiperable message.

Word salad - Wikipedia

A word salad is a "confused or unintelligible mixture of seemingly random words and phrases",[1] most often used to describe a symptom of a neurological or mental disorder.

BPPLEE · Oct 14, 2024

rambot said:
Oh. That's an incorrect use of "word salad"

I just explained what she said and while it was cumbersome it delivered a dechiperable message.

Word salad - Wikipedia

Okay, I guess it was a word soup

probinson · Oct 14, 2024

rambot said:
Oh. That's an incorrect use of "word salad"

I just explained what she said and while it was cumbersome it delivered a dechiperable message.

Word salad - Wikipedia

Although Wikipedia is hardly an authoritative source, I will concede your point that "word salad" may not be the best descriptor of Harris' responses. Instead, I'll use grandiloquence.

Grandiloquence is a lofty, high-flown style of talking that has a lot of fluff but may lack substance. It’s too grand to be eloquent, so grandiloquence is usually annoying.

rambot · Oct 14, 2024

probinson said:
Although Wikipedia is hardly an authoritative source, I will concede your point that "word salad" may not be the best descriptor of Harris' responses. Instead, I'll use grandiloquence.

Grandiloquence is a lofty, high-flown style of talking that has a lot of fluff but may lack substance. It’s too grand to be eloquent, so grandiloquence is usually annoying.

Sure. I could agree with that.

I find most competent politicians slip into this.

KCfromNC · Oct 15, 2024

probinson said:
Although Wikipedia is hardly an authoritative source, I will concede your point that "word salad" may not be the best descriptor of Harris' responses. Instead, I'll use grandiloquence.

Grandiloquence is a lofty, high-flown style of talking that has a lot of fluff but may lack substance. It’s too grand to be eloquent, so grandiloquence is usually annoying.

Is lofty the same as uppity?

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