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Esv says windows. NASB, floodgates etc.

Genesis 8:2 ESV
[2] The fountains of the deep and the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained,
 
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Esv says windows. NASB, floodgates etc.

Genesis 8:2 ESV
[2] The fountains of the deep and the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained,
There were not literal man made glass windows in heaven.
 
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There were not literal man made glass windows in heaven.
I never said that there were. But it is in fact what the Bible says. Be it translated as windows, floodgates, or other structures that open and close to release and restrain water.

Genesis 8:2 ESV
[2] The fountains of the deep and the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained,

Genesis 8:2 NASB2020
[2] Also the fountains of the deep and the floodgates of the sky were closed, and the rain from the sky was restrained;
 
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I never said that there were. But it is in fact what the Bible says. Be it translated as windows, floodgates, or other structures that open and close to release and restrain water.

Genesis 8:2 ESV
[2] The fountains of the deep and the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained,

Genesis 8:2 NASB2020
[2] Also the fountains of the deep and the floodgates of the sky were closed, and the rain from the sky was restrained;
Like a ornamental structure fountain?
 
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Talk to Jesus about it, scripture is clear. The ancients who had no dog in this debate are clear.. there is proof you can see with our own eyes, grandmas and grandpa's don't lie.. while talking to Him about what faith means , Ask Him and He will show you if you really want to know. We have not because we don't ask Him , We ask others who don't have a clue either because are you really sure you really need to know ?

The movie " Alicione and her daughters " will becoming to millennial theaters 2040( -43 ) + or maybe sooner. It will be a blockbuster! Be there or be square.
 
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Talk to Jesus about it, scripture is clear. The ancients who had no dog in this debate are clear.. there is proof you can see with our own eyes, grandmas and grandpa's don't lie.. while talking to Him about what faith means , Ask Him and He will show you if you really want to know. We have not because we don't ask Him , We ask others who don't have a clue either because are you really sure you really need to know ?

The movie " Alicione and her daughters " will becoming to millennial theaters 2040( -43 ) + or maybe sooner. It will be a blockbuster! Be there or be square.
Scripture does not say the earth is 6000 years old
 
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Scripture does not say the earth is 6000 years old
From Catholic Answers:

<<<<<The problem with this approach is that genealogies were not meant to be exact chronicles of history. Often ancient authors omitted generations for the sake of symbolism. For example, Matthew records three sets of fourteen generations in his account of Jesus’ genealogy. Bible scholars point out that fourteen is the numerical value of David’s name in Hebrew (D = 4, V= 6, D= 4). The three sets of fourteen, they conclude, could possibly be Matthew’s way of emphasizing that Jesus is the new David, or it may be simply a mnemonic tool (14 to David, 14 from David to deportation into captivity, and 14 to Jesus). Moreover, as Trent Horn explains in his book Hard Sayings (see chapters 5 and 11), the ages listed in the Old Testament may not be literal but symbolic.>>>>>
 
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Scripture does not say the earth is 6000 years old
Maybe you should only Tell Him , not me and not others, now your responsible as a teacher. A false teacher ? I think Yes, because I have asked and He showed me His proof. It was good enough for me and would have pleased my ancestors reality perfectly. They just experienced it, but did not actually know what happened. 9nly 7nderstood the results of what happened. Islands moved. The world had changed.
But rev 12 explains it perfectly! Then he lead me to the physical proof of rev 12. Actually Jesus is a way better history teacher than your false teachers. Yes just ask the one who is histories true witness. As a prediction or a hypothesis, by saying there is an island under the grand canyon I thus can predict that there is another crusts under the grand canyon, so what kind of event can move one giant chunk c9nt8nient size chunck of earths crust over another one contient sized chunk ? Yes a really big event that the bl8nd will not see . But it was Just about 3400 years ago. Yes please go to Jesus for history lessons.
 
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Maybe you should only Tell Him , not me and not others, now your responsible as a teacher. A false teacher ? I think Yes, because I have asked and He showed me His proof. It was good enough for me and would have pleased my ancestors reality perfectly. They just experienced it, but did not actually know what happened. 9nly 7nderstood the results of what happened. Islands moved. The world had changed.
But rev 12 explains it perfectly! Then he lead me to the physical proof of rev 12. Actually Jesus is a way better history teacher than your false teachers. Yes just ask the one who is histories true witness. As a prediction or a hypothesis, by saying there is an island under the grand canyon I thus can predict that there is another crusts under the grand canyon, so what kind of event can move one giant chunk c9nt8nient size chunck of earths crust over another one contient sized chunk ? Yes a really big event that the bl8nd will not see . But it was Just about 3400 years ago. Yes please go to Jesus for history lessons.
Hi Renee
Thank you for your post but Gods word dose say it took 6 days and it dose say a day is a thousand years and this is the time from Noah to the second comming of Christ its the time of the creation of man in the image of God.

Love and Peace
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Hi Renee
Thank you for your post but Gods word dose say it took 6 days and it dose say a day is a thousand years and this is the time from Noah to the second comming of Christ its the time of the creation of man in the image of God.

Love and Peace
Dave
I am in complete agreement , yes sir if you mean we are near the begining of the sabbath rest / 7th day. AND THE. PEOPLE / CHILDREN OF THE NEW ADAM REIGN WITH CHRIST. I DONT UNDERSTAND THE REST OF YOUR STATEMENT . I THINK WE ARE SAYING THE SAME DIFFERENT WAYS. BLESSINGS
 
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Hi Renee
Thank you for your post but Gods word dose say it took 6 days and it dose say a day is a thousand years and this is the time from Noah to the second comming of Christ its the time of the creation of man in the image of God.

Love and Peace
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But Dave, the bible doesn't say that a day is a thousand years. It says that with the Lord, a day is as (or like) a thousand years, and a thousand years is as a day.

“But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” (2Pe 3:8 NKJV)
 
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Hi David
Thank you for your post but if it don't say what it means what dose it mean I think it will take God 6000 years thats 6 days on his time scale the first Adam died before the flood when Noah stepped of the ark there was no man in the image of son God so God set about creating one the first one was Israel the man of flesh the second one is Jesus Christ the man of spirit.

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Hi David
Thank you for your post but if it don't say what it means what dose it mean I think it will take God 6000 years thats 6 days on his time scale the first Adam died before the flood when Noah stepped of the ark there was no man in the image of son God so God set about creating one the first one was Israel the man of flesh the second one is Jesus Christ the man of spirit.

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But it does say what it means. It says:

“But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” (2Pe 3:8 NKJV)

Two things are clear. It's "with the Lord" that what is being spoken of is true. And with the Lord, one day is as (that is, like) a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. It doesn't mean that those things are true for us. Nor does it say that with the Lord a day is a thousand years, but that it is "as a thousand years." God is outside of time so whether it's a thousand years or one day makes no difference to Him.

Incidentally, where in the bible are we told that it will be 6 days/6 thousand years between Noah stepping out of the Ark and Jesus Christ's coming?
 
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I think it is just the Father limiting the number of days he must deal with a dead mankind. Old Adam will rule only 6000 years before their sins reach the place like Sodom and Gemorrah again only world wide and the earth herself spits mankind out.
So then the children of the New Adam rule over a healing / married earth for 1000 years. A sabbath rest.. where most only womens 7 clans / and the 7 church/ and the 7 stars all woman works / leads / rules/ helps Him . Mommas always have to work on sabbath, someone had to change the baby and serve dinner , clean up etc ... it is also the time when the least shall be the greatest. JESUS WILL MAKE 4 KINGDOMS THAT ARE WOMEN/ MOTHER FRIENDLY AND CHILD SAFE. But Adam had his chance and Eve will have her Chance. Remember Adam was born outside of Eden so he rules outside and Eve born inside of Eden, it was always Eves. And hers to share.
I Think He is just saying there is a parable / parallel lesson here, In the creation week. New Adam and new Eve will rule the last 1000 years/ a sabbath. A whole different mind set .
 
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But it does say what it means. It says:

“But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” (2Pe 3:8 NKJV)

Two things are clear. It's "with the Lord" that what is being spoken of is true. And with the Lord, one day is as (that is, like) a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. It doesn't mean that those things are true for us. Nor does it say that with the Lord a day is a thousand years, but that it is "as a thousand years." God is outside of time so whether it's a thousand years or one day makes no difference to Him.

Incidentally, where in the bible are we told that it will be 6 days/6 thousand years between Noah stepping out of the Ark and Jesus Christ's coming?
Hi David
Thank you for your post as far as Gods concerned a day is a thousand years and the onlything it can apply to is creation from Noah to the present day it fits pretty good with the creation account if we take it symbolicly day four a good example the sun the light of the world represents Christ the moon represents his bride the reflected light of the sun how could anyone 2000 years ago know that then the stars the children of God why did the man Christ cured of blindness see men walking as trees it must come from the the creation account so the creation account should be seen as symbolic starting with Noah and everything on the ark the onlything missing was Adam man in the image of God which will be realised in Jesus Christ on the 7th day.

Love and Peace
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There is real desire among many to have the biblical history fit the days of a seven day week with the final thousand years considered to be yet coming as the seventh day of the week for rest using the one passage about a day is as a thousand years to God, which in context is not about that but about God giving more opportunity not desiring as many to yet perish and not have life with God everlasting. It does not really apply to biblical history and it is not realistic to deny evidence of things shown to be longer than 6000 years, as evidence from historical sequences and lifetimes of long living trees which have been found. This is not saying that I agree that there are millions of years or more of development on this world leading to how our world is now, but there really could be more thousands of years.
 
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There is real desire among many to have the biblical history fit the days of a seven day week with the final thousand years considered to be yet coming as the seventh day of the week for rest using the one passage about a day is as a thousand years to God, which in context is not about that but about God giving more opportunity not desiring as many to yet perish and not have life with God everlasting. It does not really apply to biblical history and it is not realistic to deny evidence of things shown to be longer than 6000 years, as evidence from historical sequences and lifetimes of long living trees which have been found. This is not saying that I agree that there are millions of years or more of development on this world leading to how our world is now, but there really could be more thousands of years.
Hi Fred VB
thank you for your reply to which I have to disagree the bible is quite clear there is six days of creation and a day of rest it also states with God a day is a thousand years.
we also know when Noah stepped of the Ark there was no Adam he had died so God began a new creation of Man in his image or as I like to think of it as Mankind in his Image the first man in his image was Israel the man of flesh which must come first through Israelis disobedience they where rejected for a time but will be reinstated.
Then God began a new creation of Mankind in his image with Jesus Christ a spiritual man what will this man look like we will have Christ the head we will have his bride all those chosen from the foundation of the world and all the children of God the multitude Christ will present to the Father on his return Jesus Christ is the last Adam the first Adam died before the flood the first Adam was also a great multitude the same as the last Adam both Adams would have been created in the same way the word man should be understood as Mankind the reason evil was allowed in the world was so we could choose the good by loving God and rejecting evil we do this by Love.

Love and Peace
Dave
 
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7 days of Creation is more than a Allegory. Yes it is an allegpry but it is more than just an allegory . It is Prophesy like His Word is true also. It was true , is true and will be true. It is Truthing because His Word is alive. True in a day and in the thousand years and in a weekly Sabbeth and in the 1000 years of Sabbatical Sabbeth. In the 50 year Jubilee and in the ulimate last Jubilee. HIS WORD FROM CREATION IS WORKING ON BRING HUMANITY TO OUR NEW CREATION EVENTS. ,
 
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