6,000 Years?

[Aaron112]

That reads like you think of Hovind as perfect and infallible, a person who can never do any wrong and can only be wronged.

We are not to put that sort of faith in men, let alone deeply flawed men like him,.

It seems the mistakes (presumption? assumption? errors) in this post far outweigh his.

 

[River Jordan]

It seems the mistakes (presumption? assumption? errors) in this post far outweigh his.

What mistakes?

And if you read Hovind's court documents, he didn't make mistakes. He knew exactly what he was doing, knew it was illegal, and still thinks it was all legal despite being convicted in a court of law.,

I've also watched a few of his vids and seen him say things that aren't true. I've seen people try and correct him on those falsehoods, and him keep right on repeating them.

He's a very flawed and very dishonest person. If you don't believe me, I can show you some examples.

 

[davetaff]

Hi
Just wondering who is Hovind is he an apostle of Christ or just a man like me if so should we listen to him or the word of God.
Were there any Apostles after St Paul I don't believe so so lets stick to the word of God please.

Love and peace
Dave

 

[Jipsah]

But we cannot say for certain what that age is! It is not millions or billions of years old.

So we don't know how old it is, but we know how old it ain't?

 

[Jipsah]

The speed of light is a time piece also.

Careful with that one. The "old light" hypothesis has some very erudite defenders.

 

[Meester-Chung]

earth is actually 7000 years old (Septuagint Chronology)

 

[stevevw]

The new discoveries of the JWT spin me out. It seems the universe is repeating itself and going on forever with mature galaxies soon after the supposed BB. Which is impossible according to the standard cosmological model.

What if theres just mature galaxies everywhere. What does that mean. Is the universe even older or not even something we can fit into our space and time picture.

 

[Jipsah]

The Noah's flood story is the reversal of creation (the waters ungathered and release from the firmament), complete chaos, tohu wa bohu. Then re-creation, the waters return and the windows of the sky close (Genesis 8:2).

Windows?

 

[Jipsah]

But we cannot say for certain what that age is! It is not millions or billions of years old.

So you're saying we can't know how old it is, but we can know how old it's not.

Right.

 

[Jipsah]

The Doctor Dino said in an opening lesson: how easy it is to brainwash our little children

Apparently it ain't all that hard to gull adults, either. That's how old DD makes his living, innit?

 

[Jipsah]

So you have not yet learned the truth, all the truth, the truth in harmony with all of God's Word and rejecting the flaming darts of the enemy that pretends to be truth.

Doesn't take much to learn that Hovind was, and is, a criminal whose stock-in-trade is bilking gullible Christians and defrauding anyone who gives him the opportunity. He's a nasty piece piece of work.

 

[Jipsah]

It seems the mistakes (presumption? assumption? errors) in this post far outweigh his.

His "mistakes? Like wife beating? Tax fraud? Perjury?Just in general being a bleedin' career criminal who's used his distortions of the Gospel of Christ to steal from those credulous enough to believe him?

How much has he bilked you for?

 

[FaithT]

So you're saying we can't know how old it is, but we can know how old it's not.

Right.

Exactly, the op makes no sense.

 

[Reneep]

Does anybody have proof that the earth and the entire universe really is 6,000 - ish years old beyond the usual arguments that science has debunked over and over again? Arguments like the rocks in the Grand Canyon or some other such weak examples? I’m looking for reputable scientists who’ve written peer reviewed papers on the subject and gained the support of other reputable scientists?

Sorry but the Grand Canyon WAS CREATED BY A CATASTROPHIC EVENT YOUR
SCIENTIST DONT BELIEVE IN. BUT IT is only about 3400 or so years old and sitting on a Island.
The Grand canyon was created the same time as, the Bronze age collapse, the Alantis event , the blowing of a huge volcano like maybe Crete and OR more, Joshua's long day, Gelgamesh's flood so about 14 -16 long 100 year generations past Noah.
It was Created during the Turtle Island event noted also on Pictish Rhynie stones, AND whispering Cairn, and memorialized in North Americas AS THE SERPENT MOUND. And b8blically as Rev 12 woman as she is historical Ali cione / Zion)

SO ANYONE DATING THE ROCKS IS CLUELESS. ASK A NATIVE AMERICAN GRAND MA ABOUT the turtle Island event also noted in the illiad I think or one of those old Greek sailers books. It was definitely someone who knew something big changed, like whole Islands gone. And to think the scientific community has yet to really explain any of known seen and recorded history.. They preffer to go to the unprovable because they teach tomato seeds from straw, and so they see tomato seeds whereever they want them . It is about their faith in themselves.
The grand Canyon sits on an island and is only about 3400 years old. And don't forget water does not run up hill unless driven by a fantastic force or something otherwise known as a catostrophic event.

 

[FaithT]

Sorry but the Grand Canyon WAS CREATED BY A CATASTROPHIC EVENT YOUR
SCIENTIST DONT BELIEVE IN. BUT IT is only about 3400 or so years old and sitting on a Island.
The Grand canyon was created the same time as, the Bronze age collapse, the Alantis event , the blowing of a huge volcano like maybe Crete and OR more, Joshua's long day, Gelgamesh's flood so about 14 -16 long 100 year generations past Noah.
It was Created during the Turtle Island event noted also on Pictish Rhynie stones, AND whispering Cairn, and memorialized in North Americas AS THE SERPENT MOUND. And b8blically as Rev 12 woman as she is historical Ali cione / Zion)

SO ANYONE DATING THE ROCKS IS CLUELESS. ASK A NATIVE AMERICAN GRAND MA ABOUT the turtle Island event also noted in the illiad I think or one of those old Greek sailers books. It was definitely someone who knew something big changed, like whole Islands gone. And to think the scientific community has yet to really explain any of known seen and recorded history.. They preffer to go to the unprovable because they teach tomato seeds from straw, and so they see tomato seeds whereever they want them . It is about their faith in themselves.
The grand Canyon sits on an island and is only about 3400 years old. And don't forget water does not run up hill unless driven by a fantastic force or something otherwise known as a catostrophic event.

Well, scientists with scientific discoveries would beg to differ.

 

[Reneep]

I bet they do. What they are not discoving is true history.

 

[FaithT]

I bet they do. What they are not discoving is true history.

Proof?

 

[Jipsah]

Proof?

Some ex-con wife-beating grifter in Alabama told him so.

 

[FaithT]

Some ex-con wife-beating grifter in Alabama told him so.

What are you talking about? Oh, Kent Hovid? When I was searching for a church and weak in my faith, still learning about Christianity I read some stuff from him. Didn’t take long to learn what he was like.

 

[FaithT]

earth is actually 7000 years old (Septuagint Chronology)

Again, where’s the proof? Read my OP and then answer.