4004 Bc

[GeneSplicer]

Now now. Just because you can't support your position, is no need to call the winning side names.

And what position would that be David? Than your name isn’t David Enjay or are you referring to your inability to debate scientific facts on three forums that I know of so far and have to resort to simplistic dismissal in favor of a magically mutable future where you get to murder en mass.

You thought the fact that one can post on forums as one chooses, whether you were on one or not, is some sort of secret? Weird.

Irrelevant and odd tangent David. You accused me of stalking yet cannot address the fact that my account here predates yours. If I were stalking you, my account would have been created just to post against you.

A Christian forum, generally already knows God will take over. No news there.

Not everyone here is a Christian and many would disagree outright with your non-Christian culling fantasy.

What, you thought He would pussyfoot around, and ask permission from those that didn't like it?? Strange. No. God, being God, and all, will rule, and no one has anything to say about it.

According to you and your faith. A faith of one. You totally ignore the vast numbers of other faiths, theists and non-theists who simply wish to live is peace while people like you peace violence.

Stalking old hat long forgotten trivial, passe gibbereish aside, who cares?

You do David or else you would not seek to distance yourself from those archives.

And you have to resort to the stalking claim again?

You keep forgetting so easily or you must lie with such ease.

You were the one to introduce the split/merge on the physics forum I linked to and, I and many others, researched is and you based upon your claims. It was only a matter of time before the internet archive was found since it also was listed as a resource for your split/merge PDF.

So, you again simply dismiss that which you don’t want to face and that you led others to find.

I don't even remember.

Doubtful.

I can tell you my opinions today, though. Preferably on topic.

But again David, your split/merge is on topic. You claim it is fact but all you have to offer is your own unsubstantiated claims and desire to murder in the name of your god in some divine culling.

I hjave little patience in real life for stalkers, I will admit. So?

So you just answered rhetorical question. Bravo.

And again, hollow stalking claims? The fact must be so embarrassing that you are reaching and claiming anything as a dodge or way out.

What, you want a dozen roses? Get on topic man. You bore us.

“US?” You mean you and I am on topic. I simply revealed all the details of your split/merge culling fantasy.

The different past and future really does not include the reign of Christ, directly. Of course His coming heralds the change, and new heavens.

And as with the time you tried that excuse on the other forum, it is a poor dodge attempt. Your magically mutable future culling fantasy is the end of your split/merge nonsense.

Nothing like a different future to get the idea across that this state is not permanent!

No, the only idea it gets across is your questionable grasp and grounding in and of reality.

Those that He stops from killing all men are not murdered, actually. They are stopped, in a police action, from the terrorsm of killing all life on earth. That saddens you? Too bad.

Wow. So I guess when you said that the blood would be up to the reins of your magically flying flaming steeds you would ride, it was not the blood of all those who you and your god would kill en mass? I guess you should have made that claim either David.

I wasn't even warned on your physorg site, let alone banned.

And that is a lie. Your account currently has two out of five warnings.

Somehow you like to cast firebrands, and accusations like a madman.

Odd then how I can link to your own words to back up my claims. Take the other physics forum that you were banned from. I believe you used the name simple there.

OK. I should warn you, this site likely will start to look at that behavior for what it is, in the near future.

And that pathetic threat is to mean what David? Is this another hollow threat of legal action taken on your part or are you telling me that I will be censored now for citing and linking to your own words?

Nonsense. My opinion that there will be sex in heaven has zero to do with anything but loving consentual fun.

That is not true David. If women were not only concubines in your magically mutable future, then why have you stated that there are no women “space warriors” for god when he returns? That question was put to you before and you spent pages dodging for the most part.

Seriously, I doubt many Christians will try to kill all life on earth, and actively fight God, and try to stop Him and His armies of heaven when He takes over. I kid you not.

And you totally dodge the fact that you have labeled other Christians as false Christians. Try a better dodge next time.

You think you can lecture me? Nope.

“Can” is the wrong word. More like have lectured you. Again, I am not the one who has espoused a fantasy and desire to harm and murder others. You have.

Sounds good. No idea what you are talking about, or trying to relate it to.

Of that I am sure David because if you had undergone such introspection you would not be threatening the lives of others of different faiths.

Not preaching is good. Try it sometime. You might like it.

Another hollow rebuttal David. Please cite where I have preached my faith on this thread. The only thing I have done is to expose all of the details of your culling fantasy.

Strange dreaming. Thanks for sharing.

Wow. So you think it is okay to condemn others and claim they are worthy of death?! Not a real shock I suppose given your violent fantasy.

I still think God is right in taking over and saving mankind. Is that OK with you??

If you mean your culling fantasy, then the answer would be no David.

I think anyone would reject that. After all, you made it up.

Oh no David. Not that old dodge again.

You keep forgetting I can and have cited you own words. It is not my fantasy that god will return in a giant magically flying golden pyramid, let you and other “true” Christians murder en mass, get married and then recreated the universe so you can have sex with Marilyn Monroe. That is your split/merge fantasy.

OK. Hmm, that worked for you let me try. Please go away..?

And why would I do that?

You also seem to forget or forget to mention that you threatened me directly. To refresh your memory, you labeled me and others as full of the anti-Christ or that we had an “anti-Christ nature” for questioning and challenging your snuff fantasy and then you proclaimed such people are worthy of death especially in your non-Christian snuff fantasy.

Such violence from a supposed man of God. Tsk, tsk.

 

[dad]

And what position would that be David? Than your name isn’t David Enjay or are you referring to your inability to debate scientific facts on three forums that I know of so far and have to resort to simplistic dismissal in favor of a magically mutable future where you get to murder en mass.



Irrelevant and odd tangent David. You accused me of stalking yet cannot address the fact that my account here predates yours. If I were stalking you, my account would have been created just to post against you.

Apparently you had other purposes at one time.

And that is a lie. Your account currently has two out of five warnings.

Then it is news to me. Not psychic, sorry

You also seem to forget or forget to mention that you threatened me directly. To refresh your memory, you labeled me and others as full of the anti-Christ or that we had an “anti-Christ nature” for questioning and challenging your snuff fantasy and then you proclaimed such people are worthy of death especially in your non-Christian snuff fantasy.

Such violence from a supposed man of God. Tsk, tsk.

Noting an anti Christ is not a threat, it is a notation. If I found your words such, there was a reason.


So, about 4004 BC. I have found that the dates were not supported in the OP video. Aside from obsessing over a God taking over you supposedly don't believe in, and insane accusations, you may address the issue here.

 

[dad]

his split/merge theory has been torn apart here and in several other places on the net.
....

Outright lie.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Outright lie.

Prove it.

 

[Hespera]

Prove it.

If this is now boiled down to "prove it" / "no YOU prove it" i wonder if it could , like be given a rest? Science vs magic never was much of a topic anyway.

 

[Nathan Poe]

If this is now boiled down to "prove it" / "no YOU prove it" i wonder if it could , like be given a rest? Science vs magic never was much of a topic anyway.

It's not about science vs. magic -- it's about one poster accusing another of lying. I'd like to see proof.

 

[pgp_protector]

I so need to save this thread before lock & clean up

 

[Hespera]

It's not about science vs. magic -- it's about one poster accusing another of lying. I'd like to see proof.

oh ok... i quit reading "dad / david" posts some time back, but the essence of anything he has to say is magic. If he is calling liar of course, that is a diff matter. Carry on.

 

[dad]

Prove it.

Oh, that's easy. No one here has proven a same state past or anywhere else. If he could do it, he would. I will offer the evidence that he will, and can not, and neither can science. Therefore the ridiculous lying claim that the split /merge, different future and past concept was defeated on some other thread, is a total fabrication. If it was I would know about it. I also submit, so would other posters watching the experiment and proof right here, if he could do it. Hec, I don't think I recall him ever even making a semi serious conversation, or debate, actually dealing with the issues.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Oh, that's easy. No one here has proven a same state past or anywhere else. If he could do it, he would.

He claims it's already been done -- you called him a liar.

Prove it.

I will offer the evidence that he will, and can not, and neither can science.

You always say you'll offer evidence -- you never have to date.

Again. Prove that Gene lied.

Therefore the ridiculous lying claim that the split /merge, different future and past concept was defeated on some other thread, is a total fabrication.

Prove it.

If it was I would know about it.

And would be the last man on Earth to admit it.

Prove that Gene lied.

I also submit, so would other posters watching the experiment and proof right here, if he could do it. Hec, I don't think I recall him ever even making a semi serious conversation, or debate, actually dealing with the issues.

I've never seen you do that, either.

Now prove that Gene is lying.

 

[GeneSplicer]

Apparently you had other purposes at one time.

In other words, you have nothing to back up your hollow claim of me stalking you. Just another hollow claim in a rather long series of hollow claims you have posted.

Then it is news to me. Not psychic, sorry

Right. Sorry, but that again smacks of another fabrication on your part unless you are accusing the admins of giving you warnings after you left quietly. Considering you have called them Nazis, I’m sure such a claim would fit right in with your unsubstantiated slander about the admins.

Noting an anti Christ is not a threat, it is a notation. If I found your words such, there was a reason.

No David, calling someone an anti-Christ is not a threat, but your reading comprehension seems to have failed you or you are being intellectually dishonest again.


Then again, you would have to back up your claim that any such person you described is an anti-Christ actually is.

Such simplistic defamations and dismissal of one’s detractors is often the default resort of a person who has nothing of substance or rational thought or reason to offer in a debate or discussion.

Your labeling me and others as anti-Christs and dismissing us is no different than being called a racists, homophobe or an equivalent dismissal for those unable to discuss certain topics rationally.

I have clearly stated and can cite your own posted claim that I and others were of or full of the Anti-Christ AND deserved death in your culling fantasy.

If you are going to try to appear intellectually honest, then reply to my entire point and not selective parts.

So, about 4004 BC. I have found that the dates were not supported in the OP video. Aside from obsessing over a God taking over you supposedly don't believe in, and insane accusations, you may address the issue here.

I am addressing the issue David and your attempt to limit the discussion now that your full split/merge fantasy has been revealed is no more effective here than it was on the other forum.

And to correct you yet again David, I am not obsessing about any god. I am and have been addressing the full ramifications of your split/merge snuff fantasy.

Again, I can cite your own words about your snuff fantasy. So if your own posts support my claims then my claims are fact.

So, care to explain just how your snuff fantasy isn’t?

Outright lie.

A lie is stating something one knows to be false at the time the statement was made.

I have and can cite where your split/merge snuff fantasy was torn apart on the other forum.

Here it has been challenged is similar fashion and just as effectively.

So care to back up the claim that I have lied or is this yet another hollow claim of yours that you will simply post a poor excise for and avoid?

So let me back up my claims as I have in the past.

Here is your split/merge argument on a site called EvC Forum: Home Page dated 07-05-2007.

EvC Forum: Creation Museum Age of the Earth is False <font color="red"><b>(Simple and RAZD)</b></font>

You can also see here just how your split/merge nonsense was challenged and how you simplistically ignored and facts:

EvC Forum: Creation Museum Age of the Earth is False <font color="red"><b>(Simple and RAZD)</b></font>

Your account there was named "simple" and it was and is suspended. If you were to hover your mouse over the red banned symbol, the following is displayed:

Suspension expires: Indefinite
Reason: Simple isn't showing any interest in rational discussion supported by evidence, and his lengthy history here leaves little hope that this will change. –Admin

So, let me guess. You have or had no idea that this account of yours was suspended either. I find that hard to believe considering your thread was closed by the admin.

But I’m sure these are simply more examples of anti-Christ filled Nazi admins seeking to prevent you from spreading your wisdom.

So, do you have anything illustrating how I lied when I stated that your split/merge theory has been torn apart here and in several other places on the net?

How about the fact that I appear to be correct when I stated that your accounts on other forums were suspended?

You have claimed none of your accounts have been suspended. You appear to be in error.

 

[GeneSplicer]

Oh, that's easy. No one here has proven a same state past or anywhere else. If he could do it, he would. I will offer the evidence that he will, and can not, and neither can science. Therefore the ridiculous lying claim that the split /merge, different future and past concept was defeated on some other thread, is a total fabrication. If it was I would know about it. I also submit, so would other posters watching the experiment and proof right here, if he could do it. Hec, I don't think I recall him ever even making a semi serious conversation, or debate, actually dealing with the issues.

Then you would be lying again David.

And unlike your claim that I have lied, I can cite some very lengthy posts where I and others challenged your pseudoscience and magically mutable future snuff fantasy.

Should I link to some of those arguments or do you wish to step away from your hollow claim now?

As far as your recall ability goes, much like your intellectual honesty, it appears to be lacking, selectively or otherwise.

 

[pgp_protector]

LOL was looking at teh EvC Forum at the Topic Index for simple
Over a 50&#37; Locked rate.

 

[uke2se]

I'd say that's about as owned as anyone can be and still live to tell the tale.

 

[gaara4158]

I'd say that's about as owned as anyone can be and still live to tell the tale.

Haha quite epic indeed. It's so nice to finally see dad's absurdities exposed and trampled, it's long overdue.

 

[dad]

In other words, you have nothing to back up your hollow claim of me stalking you. Just another hollow claim in a rather long series of hollow claims you have posted.





Right. Sorry, but that again smacks of another fabrication on your part unless you are accusing the admins of giving you warnings after you left quietly. Considering you have called them Nazis, I’m sure such a claim would fit right in with your unsubstantiated slander about the admins.





No David, calling someone an anti-Christ is not a threat, but your reading comprehension seems to have failed you or you are being intellectually dishonest again.


Then again, you would have to back up your claim that any such person you described is an anti-Christ actually is.

Such simplistic defamations and dismissal of one’s detractors is often the default resort of a person who has nothing of substance or rational thought or reason to offer in a debate or discussion.

Your labeling me and others as anti-Christs and dismissing us is no different than being called a racists, homophobe or an equivalent dismissal for those unable to discuss certain topics rationally.

I have clearly stated and can cite your own posted claim that I and others were of or full of the Anti-Christ AND deserved death in your culling fantasy.

If you are going to try to appear intellectually honest, then reply to my entire point and not selective parts.



I am addressing the issue David and your attempt to limit the discussion now that your full split/merge fantasy has been revealed is no more effective here than it was on the other forum.

And to correct you yet again David, I am not obsessing about any god. I am and have been addressing the full ramifications of your split/merge snuff fantasy.

Again, I can cite your own words about your snuff fantasy. So if your own posts support my claims then my claims are fact.

So, care to explain just how your snuff fantasy isn’t?



A lie is stating something one knows to be false at the time the statement was made.

I have and can cite where your split/merge snuff fantasy was torn apart on the other forum.

Here it has been challenged is similar fashion and just as effectively.

So care to back up the claim that I have lied or is this yet another hollow claim of yours that you will simply post a poor excise for and avoid?

So let me back up my claims as I have in the past.

Here is your split/merge argument on a site called EvC Forum: Home Page dated 07-05-2007.

EvC Forum: Creation Museum Age of the Earth is False <font color="red"><b>(Simple and RAZD)</b></font>

You can also see here just how your split/merge nonsense was challenged and how you simplistically ignored and facts:

EvC Forum: Creation Museum Age of the Earth is False <font color="red"><b>(Simple and RAZD)</b></font>

Your account there was named "simple" and it was and is suspended. If you were to hover your mouse over the red banned symbol, the following is displayed:



So, let me guess. You have or had no idea that this account of yours was suspended either. I find that hard to believe considering your thread was closed by the admin.

But I’m sure these are simply more examples of anti-Christ filled Nazi admins seeking to prevent you from spreading your wisdom.

So, do you have anything illustrating how I lied when I stated that your split/merge theory has been torn apart here and in several other places on the net?

How about the fact that I appear to be correct when I stated that your accounts on other forums were suspended?

You have claimed none of your accounts have been suspended. You appear to be in error.

Alrighty then. Thanks for making it clear you aren't here to stalk, or dwell on me.


Moving on...The last thread I did on Evc was about Daniel, a truly great thread. It was long after I was supended as simple, yet they let me post again there as simple. Funny things do happen. On Physorg, however, I received no warnings I recall, and was never suspended. I took leave of that site till the mod I consider a hotshot wannabe, and totally biased is out of the way. I don't care if you like it. Or have some twisted reality you want to stinkk up threads with, even though it is off topic. Am I getting through?

 

[dad]

Then you would be lying again David.

And unlike your claim that I have lied, I can cite some very lengthy posts where I and others challenged your pseudoscience and magically mutable future snuff fantasy.

Should I link to some of those arguments or do you wish to step away from your hollow claim now?

As far as your recall ability goes, much like your intellectual honesty, it appears to be lacking, selectively or otherwise.

What you can do is debate right here and now in an honest way. I doubt that clipping select quotes from a free for all, atheist run street fight debate is acceptable here. If you want to back up dating this is a good thread. If you want to be utterly demolished, in a split merge debate, there is another thread in the physical science forum I started that would be a good place for that. Otherwise, well, you know..

 

[iremouth]

If you want to be utterly demolished.

What are you going to 'utterly demolish' them with? words? because that's all you have is words, and most of the words you use do not make any sense, most of what you say is mythical and religious rubbish, you need to be a fully paid up member of the religious fanatics club to even understand most of it, it's gibberish, your head is in the clouds, you are talking to people who do not believe the garbage you believe so speak in a language they can understand, talking about spirits, angels and a sword of some mythical God is for children in Sunday school, not adults.
You have no argument because your beliefs are all in your head, no one else believes what you believe because your religion is peculiar to you, every ones religion is peculiar to them, no two people believe the same thing, no two gods are alike, everyone molds their religion in their heads to please themselves, and your religion is so far off the wall it's in the next room.

 

[GeneSplicer]

Alrighty then. Thanks for making it clear you aren't here to stalk, or dwell on me.

Thank you for posting yet another strawman claim. I have addressed your claims and your split/merge snuff fantasy.

Thank you for keeping true to form and backing away from your hollow unsubstantiated claims about me. If you had the proof, I’m sure you would post it.

Thank you for backing away from the fact that your claim that your accounts have never been suspended or that you have never been banned from a forum has been proven to be an erroneous one or a fabrication on your part.

Thank you for backing away from the fact that you use the label of anti-Christ to dismiss those you cannot debate and those you with to threaten with violence.

And thank you for illustrating yet again just how, in the face of the facts that have been presented as to how your split/merge snuff fantasy has been torn apart and shown to be based upon nothing but your violent fantasies, you simply drop a conversation and debate you cannot face or have just lost outright.

Moving on...

More like running away.

The last thread I did on Evc was about Daniel, a truly great thread. It was long after I was supended as simple, yet they let me post again there as simple.

And that appears to be yet another lie. You have already lied when you stated that your accounts have never been banned. Do I need to contact the anti-Christ-filled admin to clarify the matter?

Funny things do happen.

Only in your laughable attempt at spin. The fact is you appeared to have lied.

On Physorg, however, I received no warnings I recall, and was never suspended.

And that is yet another lie. We have already illustrated just how your recall skills are not to be trusted since you lied about never having an account suspended.

I took leave of that site till the mod I consider a hotshot wannabe, and totally biased is out of the way.

Another fabrication. Your established character on several forums indicate that you would not simply and quietly leave a forum without venting as to why first. You have taken similar actions on Physorg when you were unable to debate in a thread.

I don't care if you like it.

Liking it has nothing to do with your outright lies David. Again, your claims simply lack verisimilitude.

Or have some twisted reality you want to stinkk up threads with,

Again David, I am not the one with the split/merge snuff fantasy. You are. Your own posts illustrate that fact.

even though it is off topic.

Sorry David, but again, your simplistic attempt with this dodge simply doesn’t wash. You made your split/merge nonsense part of the topic of this thread and it is fair game to be challenged and scrutinized as many have done here already.
You are just upset that I made public the full details of your non-Christian snuff fantasy.

Am I getting through?

That you are still intellectually dishonest, are desperately trying to change the topic from one that you yourself brought to the forum and are now cowering away from your previous claims of fact? That is painfully obvious by now David.

I’m shocked that you have no more appeals to the lurkers and no more thinly veiled threats.

What you can do is debate right here and now in an honest way.

You mean like all of the honest debates from three forums at least where you have ignored facts, threatened other with violence and then left in a juvenile huff?

I have been honest David and I have done exactly what I stated I was here to do. I have exposed your full non-Christian split/merge snuff fantasy for what it is illustrated by your own statements.

If you want to talk about honesty, then try backing up your claims you have made here about me. I have backed my claims up over and over and can keep doing so. You seem to be only able to post one hollow accusation after another.

I doubt that clipping select quotes from a free for all, atheist run street fight debate is acceptable here.

And I doubt your strawman claims amount to an honest debate either. I have not posted selective quotes David. I have posted links to the full threads if not the forums themselves for people to read and make up their own mind about.

And are you really going to claim that all the forums that I have mentioned where you have been taken to task, warned and banned in some cases are run by atheists?

And speaking about “street fight debate”, how odd is it that I can cite where time after time you posted insults, personal comments of a very person nature and had to resort to juvenile name alteration in your replies?

So much for your appeal to honesty or posing as having the character to act in a rational manner.

If you want to back up dating this is a good thread.

And reposting the same arguments you have ignored on four forums at least would accomplish exactly what David? You have illustrated just how in these forums you ignore that which you cannot face or honestly debate. And on one forum when your dodges fail, you call people names and threaten them with violence.

If you want to be utterly demolished, in a split merge debate, there is another thread in the physical science forum I started that would be a good place for that.

To debate your split/merge non-Christian murdering magically mutable fantasy has been done David and, as it has been stated, you and your snuff fantasy have been shown lacking.

And again, how about you try to simply back up your claim you have made about me. If the facts are on your side, you should be able to point to a thread or a forum or even one comment that backs up your claims.

I have and can keep posting the threads, forums and your own comments that support my claims about you and your non-Christian snuff fantasy.

Otherwise, well, you know..

I know that you cannot back up any of your claim you have leveled at me while I have supported all of mine.

It still appears that you have no facts on your side David. So if you really want to illustrate just how erroneous my claims are, then cite a source or post a link that illustrates how I have lied about anything you claim I have.

If you can’t, well, then we will all know if we don’t already just how hollow and unsubstantiated your claims are.

Stop cowering and running away from your own claims you have made about me David and try backing them up.

If you can’t, then you are done whether you can see it and admit it or not.

Work on that.

 

[tanzanos]

Time to go for the jugular Genesplicer! We are all waiting for this final moment!