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[Split Rock]

dad get a hobby

This is his hobby.

 

[LightSeaker]

Actually Nat (my name is not david by the way, Gene is deluded somehow) the forum he comes from is a free for all, of rude atheists, mostly. A gloves off street fight, and one talks there a different way than here. I wouldn't recommend the cesspool to anyone here. In that atmosphere, one dishes out a bit what one receives. To snip a few quotes and put them on a civilized forum, is a fruitless endeavor.

But, still, those ARE your web sites the Gene linked to?

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[GeneSplicer]

Hey there buddy, how you doin? I am giving that site a rest, till the nazi mod moves on. Maybe check it one day for kicks.

To repeat what another has said on this thread already, you lie yet again.

So I guess you mean being banned is giving the site a rest? Then why have you created a new profile under a different name on that site?

And a Nazi mod? Who would that be? The mod in place now was partially responsible for your ban due to your violation for the TOS, but there is no need to call him a Nazi.

As for your women servants, .. no idea what you are talking about.

Yes, I’m sure, but again, we have that lying this to deal with on your part.

Your own posted claims earlier contradict what you claim now. But that has happened before hasn’t David?

As for Jesus, He is the Bridegroom, of course, sorry if that is strange news to you.

Yes, and again David, your idea that Jesus returns to take a bride after the slaughter of the non-Christians is a rather odd idea, but so is your fantasy past and future.

By the way, you think I was banned somewhere? News to me.

And yet another lie. Yes David, you were banned. The ban may have only been temporary, but it was still a ban. And then we have the pesky fact that you created another account.

Not that I care much.

I’m sure you do, contrary to your declaration otherwise.

I assume that you7 consider talk of God taking over a threat of violence.

Telling everyone who is not a Christian that they will be summarily executed by people like you is not talk of God, but it does qualify as a threat of violence.

Then there is your thinly veiled threat of violence against those who you deemed to be “full of the anti-Christ”. You labeled several people on the forum as such then proudly proclaimed that such people deserve and will receive nothing but death at the hands of the followers of the God you claim to follow.

I can tell you, too bad! Get over it. Nothing anyone can do about it.

And as you have been told over and over on multiple threads David, if you ever act out on your desire to harm non-Christians or anyone for that matter, it is the law of man that you will be judged by.

Are you in usual stalker mode here, or do you care about addressing the OP?

I was hoping you would make that claim again. It was amusing when you claimed that I was stalking you in other threads, including ones I started myself, but again you are in error.

Check my account date David. It is older than yours and while I normal do not post here, I do come here regularly to view the debates and differing points of view.

And just like the times you tried to change the topic when you were unable to defend your claims before David, demanding that I talk about the thread topic instead of you split/merge snuff fantasy ignores the fact that you yourself made your snuff fantasy part of the thread topic.

I’ve seen others challenge your pseudo-scientific and hollow claims and until now have refrained from engaging you here, but considering your continued discussion about your rather violent non-Christian snuff fantasy I thought it would do for others to see and hear exactly what your full split/merge fantasy encompassed.

You are a barrel of laughs.

I’m sure I am David.

I’m also sure that that you still consider me full of the anti-Christ and worthy of death at your hands during the culmination of your split/merge fantasy.

To remind you as I have done in the past David, while your pseudo-scientific claims are at best amusing it is your threats of harming and killing others that I find so repugnant.

In the past you have dismissed this sentiment of mine by simply stating “too bad” and “get over it” as you have done here.

If the god and religion you worship calls you to harm and to kill others, then you will find me challenging you as I have done on another forum. Telling me that I am one to be murdered does not change that.

Actually Nat (my name is not david by the way, Gene is deluded somehow)

Yet another fabrication. The name you used to register you original website was David Enjay and the name you used on your split-merge PDF was Enjay B. Davidavitch. Odd isn't it?

the forum he comes from is a free for all, of rude atheists, mostly.

There are a few rude people, but most of the members are not atheist. They do support and follow the rules of science which is something you have a problem with David.

A gloves off street fight, and one talks there a different way than here.

Again, not so. People on the forum simply do not allow your unsubstantiated claims to stand unchallenged.

I wouldn't recommend the cesspool to anyone here.

Then I’m sure the other physics forum that, I believe, still has an active ban on you is also not a place to visit. I think it was physicforum.com.

In that atmosphere, one dishes out a bit what one receives.

And that again would be a fabrication on your part. Again, you posted unsubstantiated claims and, when challenged, resorted to name calling and rude, personal insults. Calling someone full of the anti-Christ and worthy of death is not exactly what I would call civil behavior.

And besides David, even if a poster treated you badly, as you have done with others, does that mean you must reciprocate?

To snip a few quotes and put them on a civilized forum, is a fruitless endeavor.

As is your habitual summary dismissal.

So the fact that I can cite your threats against others and your violent non-Christian murdering fantasy by your own words is a fruitless endeavor?

That would only make sense if your own words carried no meaning or worth David.

 

[dad]

But, still, those ARE your web sites the Gene linked to?

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Actually, in years of late, I have changed my views on several key issues. Not Jesus, or salvation, or the word of God however. I used to have an actual site, where I tried to sell some stuff. It was a failure, and I closed it. After that, I opened a few free mini sites, with more or less the same idea. Later still, I wanted a place to host the split merge document, in case some wanted to read the idea in a capsule form.

One reason I don't intend to renew the sites, I no longer hold the same views that were the underlying inspiration of getting a web site. I may look for a site to host just more or less the split merge stuff, but it is actually not a compelling need. I think the cat is out of the bag now. No way to stuff it back in Pandora's box!

I won't get into what views have changed on this thread, or area of the forum. Basically, my understanding of pre or post trib rapture, prophesy of the last days, sexual ideas, and etc.

 

[dad]

While it can't be mathematically proven, there's absolutely NO reason to believe otherwise,...

Thanks for admitting that. You forgot to add no other way to prove a same state future or past besides math either!! It is unfalsifiable! So it matters not what you believe! What counts is what we KNOW. And we have no idea what state of the universe will be in or was in at creation. None. That is your Achilles heel, the foundation you built on is myth.

unless you have a dogma to push. As you do, of course you are going to lie and fabricate in order to do it. It's standard MO for most creationists, after all. I always find it hilarious how fundamentalists never have any problems breaking the 9th commandment, as long as it's "lying for Jesus".

Godless evos obviously have a dogma to push, with all the accompanying moral perversity, and lacks that come with the no religion religion! Science ought to be more than a dogma. Work on that. I vote for science (knowledge) to be limited to actual knowledge, not as currently is the case, where it is part of the anti God life views, and belief system forced on kids as mandatory worship.

Quite the opposite. The Word of God is not tested in any scientific way, nor is it observed by the vast majority of human beings, scientists or lay-men. It is simply not scientific, and it is not relevant for the majority of people on earth. Sure, most people have some sort of religion, but not Christianity. You have NO evidence.

It is observed by billions since Jesus was here, and it's impact id felt big time. The fact that science is blind and deaf to the spiritual can't wave it away as a known reality of man. It is simpply a testament to the weakness and limits of science on some issues out of it's little fishbowl range.

Again, you are determined to lie in order to make a point. What you claim goes AGAINST logic, not with it. You are contradicting observed history, except where it happens to coincide with your crack-pot theories. I'm sorry, but you are either a full-blown pathological liar, or you could be classified as legally insane. It's a black-and-white situation here.

Please show us the logic that says that the future must have a same state universe, and thhat prophesy of the bible is false! Look who got caught in you know whats there..

The foundation of science IS taken seriously. YOU aren't.

I don't need to be, just my ideas. And the foundational mother of all assumption pillar of faith upon which science so called (the stuff that tries to deal with the far past or future) rests is the unproven, unprovable, unfalsifiable, untested, unobserved same state past!!!

The reason science is taken seriously is BECAUSE IT WORKS, and it has a very good track-record. Your crack-pot theory hasn't.

Science of the here and now is not an issue! Get a grip, and grow some perspective.

 

[dad]

To repeat what another has said on this thread already, you lie yet again.

Funny you should claim to know that. If I was banned I would have thought I would know?? I simply perceived the gall of bitterness ina the new clean up the mess gung ho mod that appeared there. I was unfairly cut short, while snide and snibbling say nothing insulters were allowed to cavort freely. So I paused my posting. No one asked me to. No one emailed me about any ban. To accuse me insanely like this is sadly funny. But maybe lurkers here will start to see what you are about. Thanks for that.

 

[GeneSplicer]

Here is one page of a very long discussion about David’s split/merge snuff fantasy.

There are several who will insult David by now, but as he stated before, they are giving him what the got from him, for the most part.

Serious questions regarding his distorted “theory” and the full ramifications of it are posted by me and others.

The replies are evasions and insults from David. Then there are the justifications for the mass murder of non-Christians.

PhysForum Science, Physics and Technology Discussion Forums -> What To Teach In School About Creation?

Here is one search of the site for any posting made by David under the username Dad1.

Search Results

I’ve noticed several of the same arguments posted here by David, but here he seems to not include the personal insults.

You will find a few posters who do not hesitate in insulting David. Some tend to have no patience with the likes of David but they also do the same for 9/11 truthers and modern-day snake oil salesmen which that forum seems to attract.

Enjoy

Gene S.

 

[GeneSplicer]

Funny you should claim to know that. If I was banned I would have thought I would know??

Yes, but you would have to be honest in order to be considered credible. Your actions that I have seen do not lend themselves to such an outlook regarding your character.

I simply perceived the gall of bitterness ina the new clean up the mess gung ho mod that appeared there.

Calling a person a Nazi for banning you due to your violation of the TOS is not the same as what you claim now. You were considered part of the mess as supported by having one of your threads locked.

I was unfairly cut short, while snide and snibbling say nothing insulters were allowed to cavort freely.

I’ve posted a link to that thread and a search for all the others with your name. As with any forum, there are those who will insult you but many sought real debate. What they revived from you was appalling.

So I paused my posting.

No, you were banned for a while when the new admin took over and no longer would tolerate your violation of the TOS.

No one asked me to. No one emailed me about any ban.

Dishonesty again. You posted there daily as if possessed to do so then just stopped in the middle of your arguments without so much as a posting stating you were leaving?

Your claim simply lacks verisimilutude David.

To accuse me insanely like this is sadly funny.

Insanely? My, how quickly we resort to and fall back upon such personal insults, but I’m glad you still use the same personal insults towards me that you did on the other forum.

In fact, such insults from you can be seen in the first link I posted to the now closed thread.

Your tactics and behavior are something you have not changed. Limited to some degree perhaps, but you are still incapable of a rational debate and, when pressed for facts your fail to provide, evidently a civil one as well.

And again true to form for you is your habit of not addressing a full posting and cherry-picking only one or two items as a dodge. That too is evident in the thread I linked.

But maybe lurkers here will start to see what you are about. Thanks for that.

You mean like your pleas to the lurkers on the other forum when you were unable to back up your claims and tried to change the topic?

If anyone wants to see what I am about David, they need not just look at the forum I linked to. They can listen to exactly what I think and why on my podcasts or, as many have done when they have questions, they can contact me directly.

Gene S.

 

[uke2se]

Thanks for admitting that. You forgot to add no other way to prove a same state future or past besides math either!! It is unfalsifiable! So it matters not what you believe! What counts is what we KNOW. And we have no idea what state of the universe will be in or was in at creation. None. That is your Achilles heel, the foundation you built on is myth.

Look, this NO-U-method of debate will not work for you. You keep trying to divert from the fact that as you make claims of different states, you have to provide the evidence for it. There are no such evidence. The default position is therefore that different "states" are simply a product of your imagination. This is not my Achilles heel. This is reality conflicting with your dogma.

Godless evos obviously have a dogma to push, with all the accompanying moral perversity, and lacks that come with the no religion religion! Science ought to be more than a dogma. Work on that. I vote for science (knowledge) to be limited to actual knowledge, not as currently is the case, where it is part of the anti God life views, and belief system forced on kids as mandatory worship.

Fortunately, you don't have a say in what science does or how it operates. Your view on what it should be like would lead us into a scientific dark-age, remeniscient of the one that Christianity brought us into during the medieval dark ages.

Science isn't a dogma. That you can't understand that lends a good insight into your psyche, which I firmly believe would be of interest to psychologists around the world.

It is observed by billions since Jesus was here, and it's impact id felt big time. The fact that science is blind and deaf to the spiritual can't wave it away as a known reality of man. It is simpply a testament to the weakness and limits of science on some issues out of it's little fishbowl range.

No, it's a testament to the weakness and limits of the human mind that we are prone to imagination induced hallucinations. There are levels of hallucinations that aren't deemed harmful, but if you come to act detrimentally towards yourself and your fellow men and women, it is normally a case of clinical insanity. I belive you have passed that limit, and I would urge you to seek professional help.

Please show us the logic that says that the future must have a same state universe, and thhat prophesy of the bible is false! Look who got caught in you know whats there..

I cannot show you that logic, as it is completely illogical to imagine it would have any other "state" than it does. Different "states" are something you have dreamed up.

As for the prophesies of the bible, give me a list of prophecies you feel have been fullfilled. The Bible Codes have been debunked if that's what you're talking about. Nothing in the bible has been verifiably fullfilled. We can't even say if Jesus truly existed or if he was a composit of various preachers around that time. The bible may be a good historical record to use as a reference of customs and beliefs, but it is NOT a history book.

I don't need to be, just my ideas. And the foundational mother of all assumption pillar of faith upon which science so called (the stuff that tries to deal with the far past or future) rests is the unproven, unprovable, unfalsifiable, untested, unobserved same state past!!!

Well, your ideas aren't taken seriously by any sane person either. Also, you keep showing your lack of a proper education. Pray tell, which college do you have a degree from?

Science of the here and now is not an issue! Get a grip, and grow some perspective.

I hardly think it is me who needs a grip, if that grip is on reality.

 

[mpok1519]

yes, I want to know where Dad got his Masters in Anthropology and Astro-Physics at.

 

[dad]

Calling a person a Nazi for banning you due to your violation of the TOS is not the same as what you claim now. You were considered part of the mess as supported by having one of your threads locked.

You are dreaming. If I was banned I should know. Never happened. You are a scream, albeit an off topic scream.

No, you were banned for a while when the new admin took over and no longer would tolerate your violation of the TOS.

Prove it. I say you are dreaming. Last time I went on there, I was not banned, or even had one warning! Why pollute this thread with such lunacy?

Dishonesty again. You posted there daily as if possessed to do so then just stopped in the middle of your arguments without so much as a posting stating you were leaving?

I wasn't leaving! Need any more clues?? I was preemptively out maneuvering. Little did I realize an added bonus of making a stalker on another forum look silly. Almost like it was planned...

And again true to form for you is your habit of not addressing a full posting and cherry-picking only one or two items as a dodge. That too is evident in the thread I linked.

Hey...how about a scientific experiment here? You address this thread, and prove you are the kind of stuff you seem to want others to think you are. Simple. Can you show the basis of the dating in the OP movie? This is your fair chance to be seen as honest, knowledgeable, and sane.

You mean like your pleas to the lurkers on the other forum when you were unable to back up your claims and tried to change the topic?

Somewhere inside your head, I don't doubt that brain gas has meaning.

If anyone wants to see what I am about David, they need not just look at the forum I linked to. They can listen to exactly what I think and why on my podcasts or, as many have done when they have questions, they can contact me directly.

Gene S.

Oh. Silly me. A simple commercial for your little site. OK. We interrupt this thread for a commercial pause.....done now?

 

[dad]

Look, this NO-U-method of debate will not work for you. You keep trying to divert from the fact that as you make claims of different states, you have to provide the evidence for it. There are no such evidence. The default position is therefore that different "states" are simply a product of your imagination. This is not my Achilles heel. This is reality conflicting with your dogma.

It is not a different state that science predicates it's past fables on! It is what..? class?... a same state...correct. Therefore the claims of so called science are dependent on a same state. It is a myth that can never be proven. Therefore no one needs to prove it is false, until it is proven true. This is news???!

Fortunately, you don't have a say in what science does or how it operates. Your view on what it should be like would lead us into a scientific dark-age, remeniscient of the one that Christianity brought us into during the medieval dark ages.

Also reminiscent of the eternal state. The one that takes over when your little doomed temporal state ends.

Science isn't a dogma. That you can't understand that lends a good insight into your psyche, which I firmly believe would be of interest to psychologists around the world.

The false so called knowledge and science is a myth. Nothing but a myth, a whole myth, and always was a myth. The proof of that is that a same state past is needede for all claims. It is not falsifiable, proven, provable, or in any way anything but the stuff of godless dreams.

No, it's a testament to the weakness and limits of the human mind that we are prone to imagination induced hallucinations. There are levels of hallucinations that aren't deemed harmful, but if you come to act detrimentally towards yourself and your fellow men and women, it is normally a case of clinical insanity. I belive you have passed that limit, and I would urge you to seek professional help.

So, let's get this straihgt. A same state past is not an
imagination induced hallucination? So prove it then. Cut the holier than thou, saneer than thou, smarter than thou talk, and get to it man. Does it get near you very grip on sanity? That is OK. Deal with it.

I cannot show you that logic, as it is completely illogical to imagine it would have any other "state" than it does. Different "states" are something you have dreamed up.

So you cannot back up your claims of what logic is. Not surprised, I. In other words, nothing outside the present temporal box computes to you. OK.

As for the prophesies of the bible, give me a list of prophecies you feel have been fullfilled. The Bible Codes have been debunked if that's what you're talking about. Nothing in the bible has been verifiably fullfilled. We can't even say if Jesus truly existed or if he was a composit of various preachers around that time. The bible may be a good historical record to use as a reference of customs and beliefs, but it is NOT a history book.

If you are really that clueless, do your homework. I might suggest googling 'bible fulfilled prophesies'

Well, your ideas aren't taken seriously by any sane person either. Also, you keep showing your lack of a proper education. Pray tell, which college do you have a degree from?

I have a degree of patience. A proper education includes the ability to reason, and think. Not just an intamacy with the box.

 

[uke2se]

It is not a different state that science predicates it's past fables on! It is what..? class?... a same state...correct. Therefore the claims of so called science are dependent on a same state. It is a myth that can never be proven. Therefore no one needs to prove it is false, until it is proven true. This is news???!

What is it about this you don't get? There are no evidence for different states. There's not even any reason for anyone to look for evidence for different states, EXCEPT for your blind assertions. The only logical conclusion is that YOU should look for evidence for different states and then come back to us when you have found it, presented it in a peer-reviewed scientific paper, and won a nobel price - as that is the likely outcome of such a discovery. Until then, all your "theories" are, are extremely uneducated and baseless assertions that NO ONE with any shred of sanity, decency or respect for the scientific method, are going to take as anything else than the ramblings of a mad-man.

Also reminiscent of the eternal state. The one that takes over when your little doomed temporal state ends.

See above, especially "no evidence".

The false so called knowledge and science is a myth. Nothing but a myth, a whole myth, and always was a myth. The proof of that is that a same state past is needede for all claims. It is not falsifiable, proven, provable, or in any way anything but the stuff of godless dreams.

If science is a myth as you say, then you wouldn't have been able to post your message. Science produced the computer you are typing your inane drivel on. Science produced the heated house you are living in, the processed food you eat, the purified water you drink, the combustion engine-powered car you drive, the medicine you take to extend your useless life. Science has created the world you enjoy, and you have the gall to say that it's a MYTH? You are an arrogant fool in the process of burning down the house you and everyone else are living in.

So, let's get this straihgt. A same state past is not an
imagination induced hallucination? So prove it then. Cut the holier than thou, saneer than thou, smarter than thou talk, and get to it man. Does it get near you very grip on sanity? That is OK. Deal with it.

See above.

So you cannot back up your claims of what logic is. Not surprised, I. In other words, nothing outside the present temporal box computes to you. OK.

No, read the message you quoted. What you are saying is illogical. Reality is logical.

If you are really that clueless, do your homework. I might suggest googling 'bible fulfilled prophesies'

Why won't you tell me? I want empirical evidence, mind you.

I have a degree of patience. A proper education includes the ability to reason, and think. Not just an intamacy with the box.

You never told me where you got your education, and what your degree is. As your posts demonstrates, your mind seem to have excellent imagination, but absolutely NO reason and clearly no education.

 

[dad]

What is it about this you don't get? There are no evidence for different states. There's not even any reason for anyone to look for evidence for different states, EXCEPT for your blind assertions. The only logical conclusion is that YOU should look for evidence for different states and then come back to us when you have found it, presented it in a peer-reviewed scientific paper, and won a nobel price - as that is the likely outcome of such a discovery....

Am I missing something here? You seem to think that the cornerstone and sole foundation of so called science, the present state in the past needs no proving? Why would I believe you then?

The deduction that it could not have been the same did not come from a leap of faith, like the assumption it was the same.

I based the deduction on records and observations of actual men, and observers of antiquity. Not just because it seemed like I ought to build up on a principle that, like the same past state, cannot be supported.

If you want to offer thinngs built up on the same state premise as knowledge, you are required to show that the same state past is known, and not just assumed in error! Those that seek truth do not fear testing, and checking, or even rechecking. Why do you? Think about it.

If science is a myth as you say, then you wouldn't have been able to post your message. Science produced the computer you are typing your inane drivel on. Science produced the heated house you are living in, the processed food you eat, the purified water you drink, the combustion engine-powered car you drive, the medicine you take to extend your useless life. Science has created the world you enjoy, and you have the gall to say that it's a MYTH? You are an arrogant fool in the process of burning down the house you and everyone else are living in.

The old subterfuge of trying to ride the coat tails of actual knowledge of the present into the great unknown future or past. No. Science here is fine, you can't take it with you though! Not into the mystic shrouded, veiled unknowns of the far future or past. Learn the difference.

No, read the message you quoted. What you are saying is illogical. Reality is logical.

So the measure of logic is your opinion and say so, then? I accept the present reality, that is the flaw in your so called logic. I also accept the demonstrated fact that science cannot speak to the unknown, and is not about the unknown future, or spiritual added anything. It is a pitiful present temporal only body of knowledge. Don't try to hand wave it into anything else. Be honest. I don't mind that science is handicapped mentally, and spiritually, I do mind people pretending it is a superman god that can fly to creation, eternity, and beyond. Get real. With real knowledge comes humilty.

You never told me where you got your education, and what your degree is. As your posts demonstrates, your mind seem to have excellent imagination, but absolutely NO reason and clearly no education.

Thankfully this thread is not about me, or I wouldn't bother posting here. As interesting as you seem to think I am, I bore me.
You and all of us would be bettter served if you addressed the thread, and ideas, rather than trying to look at a man.

 

[mpok1519]

I think Dad's just entertaining himself.

I don't think he even believes what he says.

 

[uke2se]

Am I missing something here? You seem to think that the cornerstone and sole foundation of so called science, the present state in the past needs no proving? Why would I believe you then?

Yes, you are missing something. You are missing a rational brain. You are deeply indoctrinated, and, I dare say, not a little insane.

The deduction that it could not have been the same did not come from a leap of faith, like the assumption it was the same.

Yes, your "deduction" came from the very defenition of a "leap of faith".

I based the deduction on records and observations of actual men, and observers of antiquity. Not just because it seemed like I ought to build up on a principle that, like the same past state, cannot be supported.

Present these empirical records and observations. Present how these people can build a case of different "states", which you still haven't managed to even define.

If you want to offer thinngs built up on the same state premise as knowledge, you are required to show that the same state past is known, and not just assumed in error! Those that seek truth do not fear testing, and checking, or even rechecking. Why do you? Think about it.

The same state past is known. It's called reality. Try to get it through your thick skull that YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT "STATES". I have already explained why that is, but for the readers of this thread, I will present it again.

Science works. It can accurately predict things. The reason for such predictions are the models that science use. We normally call these models "theories". They are built upon observations and experiments from the real world around us. If there had ever existed different "states", these models would NOT work, would be unable to predict ANYTHING. As it is, that's the opposite of reality, much like your entire argument.

The old subterfuge of trying to ride the coat tails of actual knowledge of the present into the great unknown future or past. No. Science here is fine, you can't take it with you though! Not into the mystic shrouded, veiled unknowns of the far future or past. Learn the difference.

Science cannot deal with the supernatural, because the defenition of science is the understanding of the natural world. It has nothing to do with me "riding the coat tails of actual knowledge". It has everything to do with you being a sniffeling ingrate, too arrogant to see that what you are doing is trying to undermine and destroy the life work of many people, all of them far more intelligent than you could ever hope to be.

So the measure of logic is your opinion and say so, then? I accept the present reality, that is the flaw in your so called logic. I also accept the demonstrated fact that science cannot speak to the unknown, and is not about the unknown future, or spiritual added anything. It is a pitiful present temporal only body of knowledge. Don't try to hand wave it into anything else. Be honest. I don't mind that science is handicapped mentally, and spiritually, I do mind people pretending it is a superman god that can fly to creation, eternity, and beyond. Get real. With real knowledge comes humilty.

The only one invoking any gods here is you. Science CAN speak about the future, and has and will continue to. It's called making predictions. Science can. The bible can't. Science has predicted future changes on our planet, and in the universe around us. We can predict earth-quakes, volcanic eruptions, meteor strikes, solar storms, supernovas, and comets. We can look deep into our past, seeing how the world worked back then by using what we know of today and counting backwards. This theory is then supported by evidence in geological observations and paleontological finds. Everything fits into a neat little package, meaning we can say with utmost certainty that the earth has never seen any different "states".

That is, unless you can actually define what a state is.

Thankfully this thread is not about me, or I wouldn't bother posting here. As interesting as you seem to think I am, I bore me.
You and all of us would be bettter served if you addressed the thread, and ideas, rather than trying to look at a man.

You bore me too. However, your ideas, like those of most creationists, are poison to the minds of the uneducated, the unintelligent, and the young. It's vital for the continued progress of the human race that such completely unscientific and incredibly damaging ideas are countered at every opportunity.

 

[mpok1519]

You bore me too. However, your ideas, like those of most creationists, are poison to the minds of the uneducated, the unintelligent, and the young. It's vital for the continued progress of the human race that such completely unscientific and incredibly damaging ideas are countered at every opportunity.

very true; Dad's ideas need to be challenged, and then ultimately rid from main-stream society.

not that main-stream would ever or does believe such insane assertions.

 

[GeneSplicer]

You are dreaming. If I was banned I should know. Never happened.

But that would speak again to your honesty and character which is something your actions have not supported. And then there are the posts I have linked to where you have violated the TOS by posting one reply after another that contained little other than personal insults and remarks about those who challenged your unsubstantiated claims.

You are a scream, albeit an off topic scream.

And yet you replied to that off topic comment making it topical. And your reply is again summary dismissal with nothing material to back it up.

Prove it.

I have by citing your posts and a locked thread.

Would the comments of the moderator you have called a Nazi matter?

And are all the moderators who gave you warning due to violations of the TOS also Nazis?

I say you are dreaming. Last time I went on there, I was not banned, or even had one warning!

Your account of Dad1 currently has a 40% warning rating. It was at one time 100% due to your actions.

And why have you created another account on that forum then?

Why pollute this thread with such lunacy?

Again David, it is not lunacy to make sure that everyone here knows what your split/merge fantasy fully entails. This includes not only your stated desire to harm and kill non-Christians but your claims and actions on another forum that do not exactly support a claim on your part of civility or the victimhood you now try to portray.

I wasn't leaving! Need any more clues??

And again, your excuses lack the appears of the truth.

I was preemptively out maneuvering.

Sorry to laugh, but the excuses you try to use are just getting worse. You never do anything quietly and I seriously doubt your proven ego would allow you to simply bow out quietly.

You have time after time posted insults about and to posters when you tried to cry foul about anything like warnings for violation of the TOS. If you were to bow out, again, it is not believable that you would do so silently.

Little did I realize an added bonus of making a stalker on another forum look silly.

You mean accusing me of stalking you when you replied to a thread I started or stalking here?

So you still ignore the fact that my account here predates yours? No much of a shock since you failed to reply to much of my post that stated that fact.

Using your twisted logic David I could claim that since my account is older than yours, it is you who followed me to this forum and started to post your non-Christian snuff fantasy.

I’m sorry if you do not like people being able to see just how you acted in another forum when honest and earnest challenges were posted to your unsubstantiated claims.

Perhaps if you acted more in the manner you claim you do your own words would not come back to haunt you.

Hey...how about a scientific experiment here? You address this thread, and prove you are the kind of stuff you seem to want others to think you are.

Firstly, you know little of science. Secondly, stop resorting you your typical dodge David.

Again, you made your split/merge fantasy part of this thread. I have simply given people access to the full ramification of what your fantasy includes.

Simple. Can you show the basis of the dating in the OP movie?

Strawman demand David since I can point to multiple times on a physics forum where very detailed replies were given and your rebuttal was to ignore or dismiss them.

So if they were not good enough then, why would they be good enough now? You totally ignore what science you will in favor of your non-Christian snuff fantasy.

This is your fair chance to be seen as honest, knowledgeable, and sane.

You really don’t want to challenge me on any of those character traits David.

I am and have been honest. I have honestly debated you in the past and for my effort been called names and told that I should and will die at the hands of true believers like you.

I have posted facts referring to dating methods and you have simplistically rejected them time after time.

And as far as sane goes, I am not the one with a non-Christian snuff fantasy that includes a giant flying golden pyramid and riding a flaming steed with a flaming sword murdering in the name of a god. You are David.

And you could have avoided all of this if you would simply not make your split/merge part of the discussion. Once you do, it can and will be commented on.

Somewhere inside your head, I don't doubt that brain gas has meaning.

So again all you have for a rebuttal is more personal insults about me.

Are you trying to deny that on the other forum that you continually appealed to the lurkers when you were unable to back up your claims?

Or are you simply avoiding the facts due to how they paint you in a bad light?

Oh. Silly me. A simple commercial for your little site.

You really have a problem posting rational rebuttals. Please cite where I posted a link to my website. I did post to one of the podcasts, but I didn’t even reference my own site to do so.

And you really want to start insulting my website again after the convoluted gaggle of fabrications you told about your failed magazine subscription website?

OK. We interrupt this thread for a commercial pause.....done now?

Again, please cite where I posted a link to my site.

So, other than calling the moderators who cited you over the years for violation of the TOS Nazis and posting insults about me, do you have anything to say about the full ramifications and details of your non-Christian snuff fantasy you posted?

Are you going to claim you never made them even though I can cite them or do I get more evasions?

The magically mutable pre-split and post-merge realities you claim existed and will exist are seen as such by people on at least three forums now and really nothing of a challenge to prove as such especially since you have nothing but your hollow and contradictory claims and dismissals.

What are of interest are the violent facets you have woven into this split/merge magically mutable murder fantasy of yours.

I might be wrong, but people who threaten to murder those not like them and who go to such lengths as you have in order to justify such bloodshed normally aren’t seen as rational people or ones with character and reason.

 

[dad]

But that would speak again to your honesty and character which is something your actions have not supported. And then there are the posts I have linked to where you have violated the TOS by posting one reply after another that contained little other than personal insults and remarks about those who challenged your unsubstantiated claims.



And yet you replied to that off topic comment making it topical. And your reply is again summary dismissal with nothing material to back it up.



I have by citing your posts and a locked thread.

Would the comments of the moderator you have called a Nazi matter?

And are all the moderators who gave you warning due to violations of the TOS also Nazis?



Your account of Dad1 currently has a 40% warning rating. It was at one time 100% due to your actions.

And why have you created another account on that forum then?



Again David, it is not lunacy to make sure that everyone here knows what your split/merge fantasy fully entails. This includes not only your stated desire to harm and kill non-Christians but your claims and actions on another forum that do not exactly support a claim on your part of civility or the victimhood you now try to portray.



And again, your excuses lack the appears of the truth.



Sorry to laugh, but the excuses you try to use are just getting worse. You never do anything quietly and I seriously doubt your proven ego would allow you to simply bow out quietly.

You have time after time posted insults about and to posters when you tried to cry foul about anything like warnings for violation of the TOS. If you were to bow out, again, it is not believable that you would do so silently.

Little did I realize an added bonus of making a stalker on another forum look silly.

You mean accusing me of stalking you when you replied to a thread I started or stalking here?

So you still ignore the fact that my account here predates yours? No much of a shock since you failed to reply to much of my post that stated that fact.

Using your twisted logic David I could claim that since my account is older than yours, it is you who followed me to this forum and started to post your non-Christian snuff fantasy.

I’m sorry if you do not like people being able to see just how you acted in another forum when honest and earnest challenges were posted to your unsubstantiated claims.

Perhaps if you acted more in the manner you claim you do your own words would not come back to haunt you.



Firstly, you know little of science. Secondly, stop resorting you your typical dodge David.

Again, you made your split/merge fantasy part of this thread. I have simply given people access to the full ramification of what your fantasy includes.



Strawman demand David since I can point to multiple times on a physics forum where very detailed replies were given and your rebuttal was to ignore or dismiss them.

So if they were not good enough then, why would they be good enough now? You totally ignore what science you will in favor of your non-Christian snuff fantasy.


You really don’t want to challenge me on any of those character traits David.

I am and have been honest. I have honestly debated you in the past and for my effort been called names and told that I should and will die at the hands of true believers like you.

I have posted facts referring to dating methods and you have simplistically rejected them time after time.

And as far as sane goes, I am not the one with a non-Christian snuff fantasy that includes a giant flying golden pyramid and riding a flaming steed with a flaming sword murdering in the name of a god. You are David.

And you could have avoided all of this if you would simply not make your split/merge part of the discussion. Once you do, it can and will be commented on.



So again all you have for a rebuttal is more personal insults about me.

Are you trying to deny that on the other forum that you continually appealed to the lurkers when you were unable to back up your claims?

Or are you simply avoiding the facts due to how they paint you in a bad light?



You really have a problem posting rational rebuttals. Please cite where I posted a link to my website. I did post to one of the podcasts, but I didn’t even reference my own site to do so.

And you really want to start insulting my website again after the convoluted gaggle of fabrications you told about your failed magazine subscription website?



Again, please cite where I posted a link to my site.

So, other than calling the moderators who cited you over the years for violation of the TOS Nazis and posting insults about me, do you have anything to say about the full ramifications and details of your non-Christian snuff fantasy you posted?

Are you going to claim you never made them even though I can cite them or do I get more evasions?

The magically mutable pre-split and post-merge realities you claim existed and will exist are seen as such by people on at least three forums now and really nothing of a challenge to prove as such especially since you have nothing but your hollow and contradictory claims and dismissals.

What are of interest are the violent facets you have woven into this split/merge magically mutable murder fantasy of yours.

I might be wrong, but people who threaten to murder those not like them and who go to such lengths as you have in order to justify such bloodshed normally aren’t seen as rational people or ones with character and reason.

I got no warning of the site you keep mentioning. Funny that. I saw an antichrist surge and unfairness, and took action. End of story.

Your obsessive compulsive fascination with God taking over, and ending the rule, and rules of man is noted. Tough. Get over it.

Now, about the dating basis for the movie in the OP...any comment? Sorry to interupt your stalking here, but time is a tickin.

 

[dad]

very true; Dad's ideas need to be challenged, and then ultimately rid from main-stream society.

not that main-stream would ever or does believe such insane assertions.

Glad that you wish someone would challenge my ideas. It is a first step...to wish. Some ideas can stand any challenge, however.