3rd Temple coming soon..

[Interplanner]

The things were the questions, and if you can't retain that far back (2 posts) no wonder you believe what you do about futurism! "Post"-er boy!

 

[riverrat]

The things were the questions, and if you can't retain that far back (2 posts) no wonder you believe what you do about futurism! "Post"-er boy!

Is "Post"-er boy worse than being "worthless"?

 

[L0U]

Help, Lord, for the godly man ceases! For the faithful disappear from among the sons of men. They speak idly everyone with his neighbor; With flattering lips and a double heart they speak. May the Lord cut off all flattering lips, And the tongue that speaks proud things, Who have said, "With our tongue we will prevail; Our lips are our own; Who is lord over us?'' "For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, Now I will arise,'' says the Lord; "I will set him in the safety for which he yearns.'' The words of the Lord are pure words, Like silver tried in a furnace of earth, Purified seven times. You shall keep them, O Lord, You shall preserve them from this generation forever. The wicked prowl on every side, When vileness is exalted among the sons of men."

 

[Interplanner]

Rat, this is not the place to sort out your sense of worth. Get help from a pastor on that, in person. If you have something to say about the 5 study questions presented to you, great, but as it stands right now, you can't or won't go back 3 posts and look at them.

Hope you have a great day, feeling worthwhile because "He loved us and gave himself up for us" (Gal 2).

 

[riverrat]

Rat, this is not the place to sort out your sense of worth. Get help from a pastor on that, in person. If you have something to say about the 5 study questions presented to you, great, but as it stands right now, you can't or won't go back 3 posts and look at them.

Hope you have a great day, feeling worthwhile because "He loved us and gave himself up for us" (Gal 2).

I don't need help from my pastor on my worth. I have you for that. You are the one that sorted out my worth.
Why would you want a worthless person to respond to your 5 study questions?

 

[Interplanner]

And there we have it. You are not worthless as a person, and I never said so. it is the non-answers combined with their snide remarks in place of real thinking that are worthless. Everyone is in the image of God, and every believer is loved by the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. But particular things we do might be very ridiculous.

 

[L0U]

Stop waiting and read the word for yourself. When it comes to the "proper view" riverat, I don't think anyone has the "proper view"!

We are imperfect. Even with the Holy Spirit teaching us we can't get it completely right because we are but flesh. That's why each person will have his praise of God for how faithful they were to reading and rightly dividing His word.

True words.
If we choose not to rightly divide His Word, His Word will divide our soul and spirit and we better pay attention to Him when He does (and we know it when He does it no matter how much our flesh tries to convince us otherwise), lest we be found to fight against Him.
I like how the Living Bible translates Hebrews 4:12-13:

"For whatever God says to us is full of living power: it is sharper than the sharpest dagger, cutting swift and deep into our innermost thoughts and desires with all their parts, exposing us for what we really are. He knows about everyone, everywhere. Everything about us is bare and wide open to the all-seeing eyes of our living God; nothing can be hidden from him to whom we must explain all that we have done."
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[riverrat]

And there we have it. You are not worthless as a person, and I never said so. it is the non-answers combined with their snide remarks in place of real thinking that are worthless. Everyone is in the image of God, and every believer is loved by the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. But particular things we do might be very ridiculous.

Of course you said so!
Tell me ner, where does it say that I have to answer any of your questions to me?
Why should I waste my time?

 

[bibletruth469]

Please let us get back to the subject of this op, the 3rd temple. It has been a good thread up until recently. I believe that the 3rd temple is coming in the near future . The question is, will it come before the tribulation period , or at the start if it. Like I mentioned very early on in this thread, I really believe there will be a gap of time between the rapture and the start of the tribulation period. That period of time could be when the temple is built. This is only speculation and my opinion, but I think it could be plausible .

 

[ebedmelech]

Please let us get back to the subject of this op, the 3rd temple. It has been a good thread up until recently. I believe that the 3rd temple is coming in the near future . The question is, will it come before the tribulation period , or at the start if it. Like I mentioned very early on in this thread, I really believe there will be a gap of time between the rapture and the start of the tribulation period. That period of time could be when the temple is built. This is only speculation and my opinion, but I think it could be plausible .

Belief is a difficult thing to overcome. Neither Jesus, nor the apostles ever spoke of a third temple...and even in Ezekiel 40-48 it's clear this temple was never built and Ezekiel 43:10-12 gives insight as to why! It's also very strange that Ezekiel 48 runs parallel to Revelation 21:10-22.

*Ezekiel writes under the Old Covenant, and therefore he see a temple.

*John writes under the New Covenant, so there is no temple.

Those to things *might* suggest something *if* one is reading them side by side.

Jesus pronounced Herod's Temple desolate in Matthew 23:37-39!

Now...even if a third temple is built, what significance is that since clearly Jesus was the last sacrifice?

Frankly a third temple will be Ichabod...God's mane would not be there because even today Israel fails to believe their messiah came.

Jesus lives forever to make intercession for us, He is our High Priest at God's right hand, ruling and reigning.

You might believe a third temple is coming...I don't...and we'll see...or not.

 

[L0U]

...Jesus pronounced Herod's Temple desolate in Matthew 23:37-39!

Now...even if a third temple is built, what significance is that since clearly Jesus was the last sacrifice?

Frankly a third temple will be Ichabod...God's mane would not be there because even today Israel fails to believe their messiah came.

Jesus lives forever to make intercession for us, He is our High Priest at God's right hand, ruling and reigning.

You might believe a third temple is coming...I don't...and we'll see...or not.

Ah, it may very well be the catalyst for the abomination.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Please let us get back to the subject of this op, the 3rd temple. It has been a good thread up until recently. I believe that the 3rd temple is coming in the near future . The question is, will it come before the tribulation period , or at the start if it. Like I mentioned very early on in this thread, I really believe there will be a gap of time between the rapture and the start of the tribulation period. That period of time could be when the temple is built. This is only speculation and my opinion, but I think it could be plausible .

The temple must be built. The Jews are required by God to build the temple, again.
When they come into the land, they must build, and they shall get all their land, again, from the Nile to the Euphrates, and up to Mount Hermon- Edit:above Mount Hermon, into Turkey, I see on the map, and
over to the Mediterranean, and down to -[I have to check].
Here is a map from Files From Toni: 1/1/09 - 2/1/09

/how-much-land-did-god-give-israel-in.html

When Psalm 83 is fulfilled, they will then get their land borders back, exactly the borders God promised Abraham, then Isaac, then Jacob...

Then they will build their temple.
I do not see how they can build it til they get all their land back.

 

[ShedSinforChrist]

Ah, it may very well be the catalyst for the abomination.

The profundity of this statement just hit me.


Suddenly this verse makes more sense.

Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

The Mt. of Olives hasnt exactly been split in half, it still sits as it always has.

I need to pray on this

Blessings from our Lord

Cheers

 

[bibletruth469]

The temple must be built. The Jews are required by God to build the temple, again. When they come into the land, they must build, and they shall get all their land, again, from the Nile to the Euphrates, and up to Mount Hermon- Edit:above Mount Hermon, into Turkey, I see on the map, and over to the Mediterranean, and down to -. Here is a map from Files From Toni: 1/1/09 - 2/1/09 When Psalm 83 is fulfilled, they will then get their land borders back, exactly the borders God promised Abraham, then Isaac, then Jacob... Then they will build their temple. I do not see how they can build it til they get all their land back.

You are right about the the Israelis to have more land before the temple is built imo . The land for peace deal has to do with the false covenant with Israel, nations and the antichrist. The seven years will start and the deal will also start. This 7 year accord deals with the land. I do think that it may happen at the beginning of the tribulation when it confirmed( more land for peace) instead of what I said( before the tribulation ) . This is the 1 st thing that the antichrist will do. So I do agree with you on this point . The temple will most likely be built after this signing for land deal. As for the psalm 83 war, it could happen before the tribulation . No one knows for sure.

 

[Interplanner]

All this is irrelevant. Even in Heb 11, it was not the land of Israel that the believers looked at as a fulfillment of the promises to the fathers, but something more enduring, 11:39. "None of them received what was promised" (so how could it be received 'again'?) "so that together with us (the NT community of faith) they would be blessed."

Why? Because it never was about the land as such to begin with. It has always been about faith. Not all Israel are the Israel that Paul is talking about, whether in Rom 9-11 or Hebrews. That's retroactive and going forward. That's why there are so many examples of ethnos in Rom 9-11 who aren't the "Israel" he is talking about.

 

[L0U]

I don't think Israel needs all the land back first in order to build the temple.

When Psalm 83 is fulfilled, they will then get their land borders back, exactly the borders God promised Abraham, then Isaac, then Jacob...

Then they will build their temple.
I do not see how they can build it til they get all their land back.

The Jewish Press » » A New Muslim Vision: Rebuilding Solomon’s Temple Together

 

[random person]

And what purpose does the Third Temple serve?

Animal sacrifices? Wasn't Christ's sacrifice perfect and final?

An Aaronic priesthood to minister between man and God beyond the veil in the Holy of Holies? But that veil was rent in two and the Spirit of God does not dwell in the Temple but in us believers. Now Christ is our perfect mediator between man and God, whom we can approach.

 

[SG9]

Belief is a difficult thing to overcome. Neither Jesus, nor the apostles ever spoke of a third temple...and even in Ezekiel 40-48 it's clear this temple was never built and Ezekiel 43:10-12 gives insight as to why! It's also very strange that Ezekiel 48 runs parallel to Revelation 21:10-22.

*Ezekiel writes under the Old Covenant, and therefore he see a temple.

*John writes under the New Covenant, so there is no temple.

Those to things *might* suggest something *if* one is reading them side by side.

Jesus pronounced Herod's Temple desolate in Matthew 23:37-39!

Now...even if a third temple is built, what significance is that since clearly Jesus was the last sacrifice?

Frankly a third temple will be Ichabod...God's mane would not be there because even today Israel fails to believe their messiah came.

Jesus lives forever to make intercession for us, He is our High Priest at God's right hand, ruling and reigning.

You might believe a third temple is coming...I don't...and we'll see...or not.

Ah, it may very well be the catalyst for the abomination.

Dear friends, I'd like to offer a thought on this without stirring spirits here. This is something for all of you to consider what we have created in our world of "man of sin".

A third of earth's population are said to be detroyed, which is a parallel to a third of the temples, which points to the mind of men alive. The collective souls rule this world with the authority and power of Satan, and to show his "works" that result from man's "works".

Satan has filled the world with his "temples", in both natural buildings and mental buildings, which is spiritual. Now, comparing to the attributes of God's church and what might we see that counterfeit the church of God. Satan has built temples as Nightclubs and Dance Discos, etc. In these places where there are extremely loud music that come upon the hearer as pnuema-voices, and this is a form of spirit, as it counterfeits the Holy Spirit that is to be uttered from God's people, and unlike the musical rock bands.

When I read Ebedmelech's post and your reply to him it struck a note in my mind and brought this thought forward. Many years ago when I was of this world, I too visited these congregations of Satan, and my life was hopeless.

If you study this you will find mockery in these temples, i.e., one of the Nightclubs that I frequented was named "Ichabod Crane", and it seems obvious that the title implies that it is one of the temples of Satan.

Our world is "FLOODED" with corruption in ways that appear entirely innocent to the majority. I myself, will never turn back to that life that I once lived, it is now my witness against me. Thanks

 

[L0U]

And what purpose does the Third Temple serve?

For Christians, no purpose.

Animal sacrifices? Wasn't Christ's sacrifice perfect and final?

Yes.

An Aaronic priesthood to minister between man and God beyond the veil in the Holy of Holies? But that veil was rent in two and the Spirit of God does not dwell in the Temple but in us believers. Now Christ is our perfect mediator between man and God, whom we can approach.

Yes.

 

[SG9]

For Christians, no purpose.

Not so. To the counterfeit Christian it serves no purpose in correction, but to the True Christian that does awaken it will serve as their witness against them, and for the purpose of correction. It will serve many purposes, as God did not plan prophecy to be for no purpose.



Yes.



Yes.

Dear friend, there's too much confusion over the third temple and it's significance. The natural and spiritual temples are seriously confused. Thanks