3abn Continued

[steffanphilip]

the goal is not to bring Down 3ABn. It is to hold accountable a man who has dammaged, Linda, the church and God. this is the chruch being the chruch.

How could anyone damage Linda the liar? She already damaged herself and if something like her lies are documented fact, then how many does she say which are undocumented?

If danny did not want to hurt 3ABN he could step to the background, that is off air, and submitt to an investigation. Why won't he?? It is beause he is guilty of lying and destoying Linda. This is not going any where, so you better get used to the idea that we ar going to talk.

He won't step off the air just because you say so. Are you God?
Have you thought about the fact that Linda lies, in more ways than one?
"This is not going any where" is true, because if it were, you wouldn't be back there trying to push so hard...

I have a new slogan every time I read one of your posts : Linda the liar and Gailon the con - say it, it has a nice rhythm to it.

 

[steffanphilip]

Mr SteffanPhilip,

You claim that you deal in documented facts. You state:

"Linda, in desposition is caught in a lie. Once again documented."

Can you show me where this specific fact is documented on the internet?

Please refer back to one of my posts in this thread to look up the answer. It was a portion of the text in the Illinois case and Linda's testimony was the one pointed out as the lying one.

 

[steffanphilip]

Jim,
Now that you have what you have said is "some first hand information", would you be willing to answer the same questions i asked stefanphillip?
You seem to believe quite a few things which is your right to do. Let's explore a couple of other things.
1. Do you believe that in fact Linda committed actual physical adultery?
2. Do you believe Tommy Shelton has engaged in inappropriate sexually oriented behavior with children or anyone?
3. Do you believe Linda had the right following Danny divorcing her to do associate with whoever she wanted and where ever she wanted?
4. Do you believe everything Danny Shelton says is true?
5. Do you believe that there is any possible conflict of interest for Danny Shelton to be the president of 3abn and also a voting member of the board?

Well, actually, you asked bonedealer these questions. But I'll answer them anyway.

1. I think she did. She is a documented liar, so anything she says has to be taken with that in mind.

2. I don't believe he has. But I do NOT condone it in any way, shape or form. (Please feel free to go ahead and start the allegations)

3. Of course she can, but associating with Gailon the con? Not so good an idea.

4.Yes, since his actions and words speak for themselves.

5. Is that another alleged sin of Danny? Not doing it exactly the way you wanted it?

 

[Rosie55]

You stated that Sunday keeping churches have started keeping the Sabbath because of the TCTR book. I said that I wanted to rejoice with you, but needed to know the specifics, which churches you were referring to first. That's hatred and bitterness?

Since Danny et. al. has told fibs before, including on global TV, it is important to substantiate each claim, at least until he has regained his reputation as a commandment keeper.

Please tell us a few of these churches that have started keeping the Sabbath because of the TCTR book. I promise I will rejoice with you over the name of each church you share.

I have passed that book out door to door. I arranged for its insertion in a local shopper paper. I arranged for a billboard advertising it. I think we placed some newspaper ads advertising it, but I'd have to check to see if they advertised just the weekend or the book too.

Pickle, why would we give you any facts when you twist the words and intended meanings of things people have said and then publish them on your save3abn site?

How do we know you wouldn't contact these churches or Pastors to tell them how wicked 3abn is?

Please don't ask for information from us--it won't be forthcoming.

 

[taterfries]

How could anyone damage Linda the liar? She already damaged herself and if something like her lies are documented fact, then how many does she say which are undocumented?

He won't step off the air just because you say so. Are you God?
Have you thought about the fact that Linda lies, in more ways than one?
"This is not going any where" is true, because if it were, you wouldn't be back there trying to push so hard...

I have a new slogan every time I read one of your posts : Linda the liar and Gailon the con - say it, it has a nice rhythm to it.

My my my! For us WF folk you sure sound a lot like a Shelton or a Thompsonville SDA.

Lets all pray that 3ABN will meet Jesus and get to know Him. Many of the Churches in the area pray for this thing. Some of us have even gone out an anointed their property with oil and prayed over it that God will cleanse it from the unrighteousness that is there and has poisoned our community. Pray for them.

 

[sonshineonme]

My my my! For us WF folk you sure sound a lot like a Shelton or a Thompsonville SDA.

Lets all pray that 3ABN will meet Jesus and get to know Him. Many of the Churches in the area pray for this thing. Some of us have even gone out an anointed their property with oil and prayed over it that God will cleanse it from the unrighteousness that is there and has poisoned our community. Pray for them.

Welcome Taterfries. That was a powerful post. Thank you for taking the time to say those things. I believe you - this is ugliness in it's worst form - from a christian network proclaiming Jesus. I don't know who they think they are fooling, but it's not the thinking person. I hope that they respond to the prayers being prayed for them. At this point, it appears their hearts are so hardened, they would take down a ministry now, after they decided to take Linda down. "Lord Lord, but look what I did for you..." will those be their words in the end?

 

[Pickle]

I wrote:

You stated that Sunday keeping churches have started keeping the Sabbath because of the TCTR book. I said that I wanted to rejoice with you, but needed to know the specifics, which churches you were referring to first. ...

Please tell us a few of these churches that have started keeping the Sabbath because of the TCTR book. I promise I will rejoice with you over the name of each church you share.

You wrote:

Please don't ask for information from us--it won't be forthcoming.

I can only conclude that you don't know of one single Sunday-keeping church that has begun to keep the Sabbath because of the TCTR book. Thank you for passing on that information.

 

[Pickle]

According to Dr. Thompson Clem said he was 20 when this happened and if you know this to be a fact you are viciously spreading a lie. Dr. Thompson also told me about a woman who was threatening to black male Tommy over her son. It seems just being around her son was enough for her to think something wrong may have happened. Now she wants Tommy to pay for her son's college education.

I thought of a simple question for you this morning, Jim. It's super simple. How did 3ABN board chairman Dr. Thompson know any of the above?

As of November 27, 2006, 3 1/2 years after he received the 2003 Dryden letter, Walt had not yet talked to a single alleged victim, their families, or the two ordaining associations that had given Tommy credentials.

Has he yet done that? Or is he getting ALL of the above information from Danny and Tommy et. al.?

How long would it have taken you to get fired from being an investigator, Jim, if:

• You interviewed an alleged bank robber but didn't interview the bank teller.
• You interviewed the wife beater but never interviewed the wife.
• You interviewed the alleged driver of the car that crashed into another car, but not the driver of the car crashed into.

Get my point?

Dr. Thompson maintained to me that he had done a thorough investigation in spite of the fact that he never contacted the aggrieved to get their side of the story. If you had pulled the stunt he has pulled, you would have been fired. Why hasn't he been relieved of his duties for his gross negligence?

I can only assume that Dr. Thompson has yet to contact one single victim, their families, or the two ordaining associations, and thus that the information he gave you is suspect and probably completely bogus.

 

[tall73]

I am aware of one minister who is attending an Adventist church now, and doing a study with some of his members as a result of the book.

I wrote:


You wrote:


I can only conclude that you don't know of one single Sunday-keeping church that has begun to keep the Sabbath because of the TCTR book. Thank you for passing on that information.

 

[Pickle]

I've just confirmed with Duane Clem that Walt Thompson has never talked with him. Thus my hunch is confirmed.

Walt relied on third party information for even the alleged fact that Duane said he was 20, when in fact Duane said he was around 19.

And remember, Roger Clem was 16.

Walt needs to be fired not only for his negligence in regards to his handling these allegations of child molestation by Church of God minister Tommy Shelton, but also for his stubborn persistence in maintaining that he did a thorough investigation in spite of the obvious fact that he did not.

 

[Pickle]

I am aware of one minister who is attending an Adventist church now, and doing a study with some of his members as a result of the book.

Praise the Lord! A little different than what Rosie or whoever said, but praise the Lord!

 

[steffanphilip]

Lets all pray that 3ABN will meet Jesus and get to know Him.

I pray that the people trying to tear down 3ABN will meet Jesus and get to know Him.

 

[steffanphilip]

Welcome Taterfries. That was a powerful post. Thank you for taking the time to say those things. I believe you - this is ugliness in it's worst form - from a christian network proclaiming Jesus.

Very funny, ssom! That's exactly what I pointed out at BSDA where you don't seem to have a problem posting ugliness at its very worst.

At this point, it appears their hearts are so hardened, they would take down a ministry now, after they decided to take Linda down. "Lord Lord, but look what I did for you..." will those be their words in the end?

It applies so aptly to you. Did you ever consider that your words are the ones that caused such revulsion in me. And you have a strange way of trying to save a ministry - it's the first I've heard of allegations and lies and "narratives" being used to save a ministry.

 

[noahswife]

It's been my experience that those who point a finger are usually guilty of the same thing they are accusing others of.
God Bless
Jim Larmore

I presume then this applies to Danny's accusations against Linda and all those who are playing the "satan card" here such as tomatoe?

 

[Princessdi]

Well,this is my first time here, to CF, in a long time. I left the last time, because I thought they lacked..... spritual maturity. There were some very nice people, but the fellowship was lacking..

I also think the last time I was here, I came across the same type of toxic posts exhibited here my first day. I think I will sit on the sidelines on this one.....as much as possible.

 

[steffanphilip]

As of November 27, 2006, 3 1/2 years after he received the 2003 Dryden letter, Walt had not yet talked to a single alleged victim, their families, or the two ordaining associations that had given Tommy credentials.

My dear Pickle,

I have a few simple questions for you...

1. Are you in close contact with the alleged victims?
2. Are you in close contact with their families?
3. Are you in close contact with the 2 ordaining associations?

If you are, then how are you in close contact with them? Is there a phone number or address where we can reach these 3 groups above to confirm whether or not you have been in contact with them?

It seems very curious that you made such an assertive statement but didn't back it up with proof.

Has he yet done that? Or is he getting ALL of the above information from Danny and Tommy et. al.?

And you? How are you getting ALL the information you have? Surely it would stand the test of veracity, right?

Dr. Thompson maintained to me that he had done a thorough investigation in spite of the fact that he never contacted the aggrieved to get their side of the story.

I can only assume that Dr. Thompson has yet to contact one single victim, their families, or the two ordaining associations, and

So which one is it, Pickle? Is the first statement a confirmation of information that can be verified or is the second statement an assumption of yours?

You either assumed or knew. Can't be both. The inconsistency is showing....

 

[bonedealer]

princess di . . . have you stopped to realize that danny (and the others you have spoken against) are children of God? . . . would God treat his children the way you have?

just 2 cents from the bonedealer

Well,this is my first time here, to CF, in a long time. I left the last time, because I thought they lacked..... spritual maturity. There were some very nice people, but the fellowship was lacking..

I also think the last time I was here, I came across the same type of toxic posts exhibited here my first day. I think I will sit on the sidelines on this one.....as much as possible.

 

[tomatoe]

I am aware of one minister who is attending an Adventist church now, and doing a study with some of his members as a result of the book.

Thank you tall for that. Pickle's assumptions that "there must not be any" is another tactic for getting the info since everyone likes to be believed. We know who those precious people are and so does God. It is a shame to be forced into keeping something that wonderful, quiet because of certain individuals.

 

[steffanphilip]

Well,this is my first time here, to CF, in a long time. I left the last time, because I thought they lacked..... spritual maturity. There were some very nice people, but the fellowship was lacking..

As compared to the fellowship in BSDA moderated by you? The fellowship that allows narratives like the "Televangelist" to be considered material that should be posted on a "Christian" site like BSDA?

 

[awesumtenor]

What has been happening here does not fit in any way His counsel for us.

Perhaps you should ponder Mat 18:17...Mat 18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as a heathen man and a publican.

All we are saying is we need to not jump to conclusions based on what either side says and we certainly are not glorifying the Lord by doing this. Do you really think this is the Lord's work?

Does this apply to SteffanPhilip's conclusions as well? This statement is far more applicable to him than to Stormy, if one is inclined to keep score....

In His service,
Mr. J