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Featured 30+ Bible verses that support universal salvation

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by Jord Simcha, Jul 10, 2020.

  1. BNR32FAN

    BNR32FAN He’s a Way of life Supporter

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    Ok so either your saying everyone will enter heaven or they won’t, so which is it? At this point it almost seems like your crawfishing.
     
  2. Kenny'sID

    Kenny'sID Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I'll await an answer to my question.
     
  3. FineLinen

    FineLinen Senior Veteran Supporter

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    Aidios is eternal and is applied only twice in Scripture to the Aidios One!
     
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  4. Kenny'sID

    Kenny'sID Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I'm not going to assume something that doesn't work, works...it's silly to do so.
     
  5. Saint Steven

    Saint Steven You can call me Steve Supporter

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    That's a loaded question. You are assuming that our eternal destiny is decided in this lifetime.
     
  6. Jord Simcha

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    Every is not every, all is not all, people is nation, God is not God, love is not love, grace abounds no more than sin, world is not world...

    but eternal is eternal!!! and punishment punishment. Says it right there. In plain English.
     
  7. Kenny'sID

    Kenny'sID Well-Known Member Supporter

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    This thread is getting downright funny.
     
  8. FineLinen

    FineLinen Senior Veteran Supporter

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    You big gigantic silly: are you not aware the steadfast love of the Lord has a time factor imbedded into it?
     
  9. BNR32FAN

    BNR32FAN He’s a Way of life Supporter

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    He just finished saying like 5 seconds ago,
    “For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.”
    ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7:14‬ ‭NASB‬‬
     
  10. FineLinen

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    Do not laugh with too much gusto.

    "It is in Him, and through the shedding of His blood, that we have our deliverance--the forgiveness of our offences--so abundant was God's grace, the grace which He, the possessor of all wisdom and understanding, lavished upon us, when He made known to us the secret of His will. And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it--the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in Heaven and things on earth, to find their one Head in Him."
     
  11. Saint Steven

    Saint Steven You can call me Steve Supporter

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    Like a spiritual time bomb. - lol

    What is it that our buddy @martymonster says?
    God's mercy doesn't expire when you do.
     
  12. Saint Steven

    Saint Steven You can call me Steve Supporter

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    Does that mean that the way to heaven is a puzzle that the vast majority will never be able to solve?
    What are the consequences of not solving that puzzle?
    Does that sound like grace to you?
     
  13. BNR32FAN

    BNR32FAN He’s a Way of life Supporter

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    No, time is not even a factor in this question. Will everyone enter heaven yes or no? We all know that your answer is yes which contradicts the statement that not everyone will enter.
     
  14. Saint Steven

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    You are still misunderstanding your Damnationist "proof-text" apologetic scripture.
    Jesus is not hanging our eternal destiny on words spoken without enough conviction behind them. You are grasping at straws. So yes, a loaded question. It reminds me of this one.

    Answer "yes" or "no".
    Have you stopped beating your wife?
     
  15. BNR32FAN

    BNR32FAN He’s a Way of life Supporter

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    Not that they won’t be able to, they don’t want to.
     
  16. FineLinen

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    I know a man who hated everyone who walked in the Way. At every opportunity he saw fit to murder them. The rascal was not interested in becoming a part in the slightest.

    But God!

    His name = the Apostle Paul.
     
  17. Kenny'sID

    Kenny'sID Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I have to, again, that is not biblical. Give me reason not to laugh.
     
  18. FineLinen

    FineLinen Senior Veteran Supporter

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    This is not Biblical? Please tell me you are jesting.

    "It is in Him, and through the shedding of His blood, that we have our deliverance--the forgiveness of our offences--so abundant was God's grace, the grace which He, the possessor of all wisdom and understanding, lavished upon us, when He made known to us the secret of His will. And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it--the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in Heaven and things on earth, to find their one Head in Him."
     
  19. Der Alte

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    Yes! In this life NOT after being punished in the LOF.
     
  20. Jesus is YHWH

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    Nice twist but Jesus makes it clear Eternal ( αἰώνιον ) punishment is the same as eternal ( αἰώνιον ) life below. Both have never ending consequences and rewards for the saved and the lost. The Eternal (αἰώνιον) fire never ends as well.

    Matt 25:41,46
    41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

    46"These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."


    Thayer's Greek Lexicon
    STRONGS NT 166: αἰώνιος

    αἰώνιος, - without end, never to cease, everlasting: 2 Corinthians 4:18 (opposed to πρόσκαιρος); αἰώνιον αὐτόν, joined to thee forever as a sharer of the same eternal life, Philcmon 1:15; βάρος δόξης, 2 Corinthians 4:17; βασιλεία, 2 Peter 1:11; δόξα, 2 Timothy 2:10; 1 Peter 5:10; ζωή (see ζωή, 2 b.); κληρονομία, Hebrews 9:15; λύτρωσις, Hebrews 9:12; παράκλησις, 2 Thessalonians 2:16; σκηναί, abodes to be occupied forever, Luke 16:9 (the habitations of the blessed in heaven are referred to, cf. John 14:2 (also,dabo eis tabernacula aeterna, quae praeparaveram illis, 4 Esdras (Fritzsche, 5 Esdr.) []); similarly Hades is called αἰώνιος τόπος, Tobit 3:6, cf. Ecclesiastes 12:5); σωτηρία, Hebrews 5:9; (so Mark 16 (WH) in the (rejected) 'Shorter Conclusion'). Opposite ideas are: κόλασις, Matthew 25:46;

    Word games over and Jesus refutes the false doctrine of universalism in just one passage. And above we see that the lexicons use Matt 25 to mean never ending punishment for the wicked.

    hope this helps !!!
     
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