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Yes, both Israel and the Jews still have a future in the divine plan, but Israel and the Jews will be defined by the authoritative word of God, not by man, which is if they are IN CHRIST! Not because of their nationality.
Can souls wave palm branches?They are the SOULS of Christians who died MARTYRS wearing WHITE ROBES that John saw before the Throne of God in Heaven In Revelation 7:9….as those SOULS wearing white robes that John saw under the altar mentioned in Revelation 6:9-11
Can SOULS of those who will be beheaded because they will refuse to worship the Beast and will refuse to take the mark during the 42 months reign of the Beast are cited to play harps of God in Heaven ?...Yes !Can souls wave palm branches?
No;
Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:7 are proving my point....This is talking about Christians who will have the misfortune to be alive on the Earth during the 42 months [3 1/2 years] reign of the BeastI reject your belief, because they are the vast multitude of living Christians, who have called out to the Lord in the just happened Sixth Seal disaster. Revelation 6:12-17 They, we, will all gather in all of the holy land, as many prophesies tell us. Psalms 107:1-3, Ezekiel 34:11-16, Isaiah 35:1-10
We see them later, in the holy Land; Daniel 7:25, Revelation 13:7
Good point, but the people seen in Revelation 7:9-14 are living people, on earth. Nowhere does that chapter say anything about heaven, in fact the first 3 verses set an earthly scene and there is no change of location. mentioned.Can SOULS of those who will be beheaded because they will refuse to worship the Beast and will refuse to take the mark during the 42 months reign of the Beast are cited to play harps of God in Heaven ?...Yes !
Revelation 15:1-2
It is very unlikely that any currently secular people, will convert to Christianity just before or during the last 3 1/2 years. Revelation 13:3-4 says the whole world will admire the 'beast'.Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:7 are proving my point....This is talking about Christians who will have the misfortune to be alive on the Earth during the 42 months [3 1/2 years] reign of the Beast
Good point, but the people seen in Revelation 7:9-14 are living people, on earth. Nowhere does that chapter say anything about heaven, in fact the first 3 verses set an earthly scene and there is no change of location. mentioned.
The group to large to number wearing WHITE ROBES are seen BEFORE The Throne of God ...Good point, but the people seen in Revelation 7:9-14 are living people, on earth. Nowhere does that chapter say anything about heaven,
All those whose names hath not been written in the Book of Life of The Lamb will worship the Beast and will take the mark of the Beast AC to save their life...It is very unlikely that any currently secular people, will convert to Christianity just before or during the last 3 1/2 years. Revelation 13:3-4 says the whole world will admire the 'beast'.
That premise is not necessarily the case.The presence of "angels" and "elders" and "the four beasts" show the scenes below to be in heaven.
That will happen during the Millennium... Revelation 20:4-6 is all about those who will be RESURRECTED to live with Jesus in the Holy Land...NOTE that if you are still alive UNTO THE COMING OF JESUS and you have NOT taken the mark and have NOT worshiped the Beast AC and his image , you will be part of itthe prophesies that tell us how the faithful people of God will dwell in peace and prosperity in all of the holy Land, being His witnesses and His Light to the nations.
This will and must happen, or the great Plan of God for humankind will have failed.
That premise is not necessarily the case.
Heaven is a Spiritual concept, your thinking of heaven is the childish one of it being like a physical place above the sky. God's Throne and the chariots of God, etc, can be seen on the earth, as many Bible verses tell us.
These scriptures refute you:That will happen during the Millennium.
Psalms 37:9 For evildoers will be destroyed, while those who trust in the Lord will enjoy prosperity in the Land.These scriptures refute you:
…..The Lord's faithful people will go to live in all of the holy Land BEFORE Jesus Returns.
Jesus is where He said He would be. Matthew 28:20 Spiritually among His people.Then where is Jesus Christ at this moment?
The Sixth Seal worldwide disaster, the next prophesied event we can expect. Revelation 6:12-17, Isaiah 66:15-17, 2 Peter 3:7 and 100 + other prophesies.Tell us to which time refers For evildoers will be destroyed,
if not when Jesus will return Revelation 19?
It is said that they came out of GREAT TRIBULATION `-KJV-We are told that they are those who have survived the great ordeal, Revelation 7:14, obviously referring to the just happened Sixth Seal event. They stood firm in their faith and called out to the Lord for protection during that Day of trial. 1 Peter 4:12, Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21
Are you saying that ALL THE EVILDOERS will be DESTROYED at the 6TH Seal ?The Sixth Seal worldwide disaster, the next prophesied event we can expect. Revelation 6:12-17,
Even the KJV doesn't capitalize great tribulation. So for you to do so is unbiblical and false.It is said that they came out of GREAT TRIBULATION `-KJV-
Nowhere does it say they died. You made that up, shame on you.They have died martyrs for their testimony of Jesus
No; and neither does the scriptures.Are you saying that ALL THE EVILDOERS will be DESTROYED at the 6TH Seal ?
Jesus is where He said He would be. Matthew 28:20 Spiritually among His people.
It is only those fooled by the 'rapture to heaven' deception, that must have the people seen in Revelation 7:9, in heaven. The Bible doesn't say they are in heaven, so to say they are, is to promote a false theory.
We are told that they are those who have survived the great ordeal, Revelation 7:14, obviously referring to the just happened Sixth Seal event. They stood firm in their faith and called out to the Lord for protection during that Day of trial. 1 Peter 4:12, Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21
I have capitalized great tribulation because the KJV does not write ''the'' great tribulationEven the KJV doesn't capitalize great tribulation. So for you to do so is unbiblical and false.
We are told that they are those who have SURVIVED the great ordeal, Revelation 7:14,
Revelation 7:14 ...they are those who have passed through the great ordeal, they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Revised English Bible.14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Jesus went to heaven, Acts 1:11, but He promised to be with His people spiritually until He comes back physically.Are you trying to say that Jesus Christ is not now in a place called heaven?
Are you saying that the souls of the dead in Christ are not now in that same place?
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