2024 Conference on the 8th Council

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Apparently Metropolitan Seraphim of Pirus was added to the conference's speak list. This is interesting considering people's unfounded speculation that the Metropolitan was on bad terms with Father Peter Heers. Hence, if ROCOR is correct that their reception of Father Peter was invalid due to the canonical release to the MP being bungled, then, it seems pretty clear there are no issues with the original bishop who issued the release.
 
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Apparently Metropolitan Seraphim of Pirus was added to the conference's speak list. This is interesting considering people's unfounded speculation that the Metropolitan was on bad terms with Father Peter Heers. Hence, if ROCOR is correct that their reception of Father Peter was invalid due to the canonical release to the MP being bungled, then, it seems pretty clear there are no issues with the original bishop who issued the release.
Exactly my thought.
 
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Apparently Metropolitan Seraphim of Pirus was added to the conference's speak list. This is interesting considering people's unfounded speculation that the Metropolitan was on bad terms with Father Peter Heers. Hence, if ROCOR is correct that their reception of Father Peter was invalid due to the canonical release to the MP being bungled, then, it seems pretty clear there are no issues with the original bishop who issued the release.
good point
 
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Hello. Can someone please explain to me what this council is supposed to address (if such information is even known)? I looked online and google doesnt seem to understand what information Im looking for (which is mostly likely due to me putting my question into google in a manor that google doesnt understand)
 
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Hello. Can someone please explain to me what this council is supposed to address (if such information is even known)? I looked online and google doesnt seem to understand what information Im looking for (which is mostly likely due to me putting my question into google in a manor that google doesnt understand)
Constantinople IV which condemned the filioque, which Rome formally agreed with for over a century.
 
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Constantinople IV which condemned the filioque, which Rome formally agreed with for over a century.
I apologize for a stupid question...but are you saying this council next year will be another Constantinople IV?
 
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Hello. Can someone please explain to me what this council is supposed to address (if such information is even known)? I looked online and google doesnt seem to understand what information Im looking for (which is mostly likely due to me putting my question into google in a manor that google doesnt understand)
It condemned those who added to the creed and issued a canon that Constantinople cannot be appealed to Rome and Rome's privliges cannot be changed by innovations (an implicit condemnation of Papalism).
 
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It condemned those who added to the creed and issued a canon that Constantinople cannot be appealed to Rome and Rome's privliges cannot be changed by innovations (an implicit condemnation of Papalism).
and, lest we forget, Rome agreed to this council for over a century.
 
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yep, and Dr David is for Constantinople IV and V being added as Ecumenical for us.
I don't like the palamite councils being declared Ecumenical. They lacked the assent of Rome, which at least is mentioned as one of the parties whose assent is necessary within the pentarchy. I am honestly surprised that within the popular Orthodox consciousness, even among the experts, what makes an Ecumenical council seems to be approached as if the criteria was nebulous.

For what it's worth, the Pan Orthodox synods are still authoritative :)
 
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I don't like the palamite councils being declared Ecumenical. They lacked the assent of Rome, which at least is mentioned as one of the parties whose assent is necessary within the pentarchy. I am honestly surprised that within the popular Orthodox consciousness, even among the experts, what makes an Ecumenical council seems to be approached as if the criteria was nebulous.

For what it's worth, the Pan Orthodox synods are still authoritative :)
you don’t need Rome if Rome had been heretical for 300 years
 
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