Guojing
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Are you suggesting that you think water baptism was required for salvation at that time? If so, you are sadly mistaken. That would mean the thief on the cross wasn't saved.
Sufficient for what? Salvation? Being a physical Jew has never been sufficient in that sense and never will be because salvation has nothing to do with one's nationality since God is not a respecter of persons.
I already said present salvation was only available thru the gospel first given to the apostle Paul, so obviously the thief wasn't saved at the time of the cross.
He joined the rest of the OT believers in Paradise and waiting to receive their salvation only at the 2nd coming of Christ (Acts 3:19-21, 1 Peter 1:9).
I already agreed with you that being a physical Jew is not sufficient. Depending on which part of time past he was at, there were various requirements needed for him to show faith in God, to remain in the covenant God made with Israel.
But now, we are saved by faith apart from works (Romans 4:5)
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