I said:
"v.27 is a clear description of WHAT Jesus' sheep DO. There are NO conditions for anything in v.27.
v.28 is a clear statement of the
CAUSE and
EFFECT of possessing (having) eternal life.
"
I give them eternal life,
and they shall never perish."
The
red words state the
CAUSE of having eternal life, which is Jesus Christ Himself.
The
blue words state the
EFFECT of having eternal life, which is to never perish.
I've given this to you many, many times. And you've repeatedly failed to even address my points, that I color coded for ease of understanding my points.
A person would have to be either color blind or stupid to not follow my points."
You never bothered to quote verse 27.
I cited the verse and explained WHY there is no need to quote it. Those who are intellectually honest can look up the verse and realize that my comment about v.27 is correct. It is a description of Jesus' sheep. It contains NO WORDS that even suggest being a condition for never perishing. That is simply foolish thinking.
See above. Which I've previously explained over and over.
No one is interested in your opinion.
I agree. That's why I cite or quote so much Scripture that ACTUALLY SAYS WHAT I BELIEVE. Unlike yourself.
ps: no one is interested in your opinion either.
The reason you never use scripture, but instead you post your “explanation” of the verse and tag your opinion with a scripture reference.
Again, you seem to relish lying. I quoted v.28 in my post, and even color coded it for ease in following my points.
But, when have you EVER even tried to refute any of my points? Never is when.
So, why not? It's either being color blind or the other. So, which is it?
Post a scripture with the context so we can all see what the Lord actually said.
My pleasure. From John 10. I hope I've included enough context. lol
22 Then came the Festival of Dedication at Jerusalem. It was winter,
23 and Jesus was in the temple courts walking in Solomon’s Colonnade.
24 The Jews who were there gathered around him, saying, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Messiah, tell us plainly.”
25 Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me,
26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep.
27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
28
I give them eternal life,
and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.
29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.
30 I and the Father are one.”
31Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him,
32 but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”
33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods” ’?
35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside—
36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father.
38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”
39Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp.
40 Then Jesus went back across the Jordan to the place where John had been baptizing in the early days. There he stayed,
41 and many people came to him. They said, “Though John never performed a sign, all that John said about this man was true.”
42 And in that place many believed in Jesus.
ps: my color coded explanation still stands:
The
red words are the
CAUSE of having eternal life.
The
blue words are the
EFFECT of having eternal life.
OK, I've given plenty of context and quoted the verse directly.
So, go ahead, and explain how my color coded explanation is false.
Not your version of what He said.
Unless you can and will explain how I have a different "version" of v.28 than what the Bible says, your statement is beyond absurd.