2 Corinthians 3

[talitha]

The New Covenant says that no one will have to tell anyone else about God because everyone will already know Him. That doesn't sound anything like Christianity, does it?

That scripture (cf Jeremiah 31) does have yet to be fulfilled. It also says, “Behold, days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when the city will be rebuilt for the LORD from the Tower of Hananel to the Corner Gate. The measuring line will go out farther straight ahead to the hill Gareb; then it will turn to Goah. And the whole valley of the dead bodies and of the ashes, and all the fields as far as the brook Kidron, to the corner of the Horse Gate toward the east, shall be holy to the LORD; it will not be plucked up or overthrown anymore forever.” This would have to be after the Glorious Appearing of Jesus (cf Titus 2).

 

[juvenissun]

Has anyone really looked closely at this chapter? It sounds as if Paul is saying something very bold. Something that goes against the idea of organized religion: God is a Spirit. He speaks through the heart. Therefore, his "word" cannot be written down on pages. In fact, once it is written down, it begins to immediately fade in its original glory. The way that the glory on Moses' own face was fading after he wrote down his scripture.

Paul doesn't even try to say that his own writings are on that level. But even if he believed that they were, wouldn't Paul's writings be subject to that corruptibility as well? Isn't anything made by man corruptible?

Whereas the living God's "word" is something that cannot be expressed in human language, because it is written on our hearts.

I know this sounds like a bold message. But there seems to be no other way to interpret this. Am I wrong?

If you write something down, then it is up for interpretations.
One interpretation might hit the original meaning and others did not.
The trouble is: we can not tell the true one by an agreement.
Moses and Paul felt the need to write down God's words. So they did it. Now we see all possible interpretations their words could give, include yours. Which one is what God meant? Well, if you have God in your mind, He will certainly tell you.

 

[juvenissun]

The New Covenant says that no one will have to tell anyone else about God because everyone will already know Him. That doesn't sound anything like Christianity, does it?

Most people know that there is a God.
But not many know Who He is.
We still need to tell them. For example, He is not Buddha.

 

[radhead]

Most people know that there is a God.
But not many know Who He is.
We still need to tell them. For example, He is not Buddha.

God is not Buddha. But I don't think the Buddhists believe that he is. They just believe that Buddha's teachings were the Way to God.

 

[juvenissun]

God is not Buddha. But I don't think the Buddhists believe that he is. They just believe that Buddha's teachings were the Way to God.

That is the point. Human have a sense of God, but do not know who God is. As a consequence, we have different religions.

The question is: why do human "know" God, but animals don't?

 

[radhead]

That is the point. Human have a sense of God, but do not know who God is. As a consequence, we have different religions.

The question is: why do human "know" God, but animals don't?

We have no idea what animals think. I believe God is found in all living things.

By the way, it is interesting that you have that view of religions, but you still identify with the Baptist religion. Or, I could say the same of any person who identifies with a particular religion. Or who identifies with a particular book of scripture.

 

[juvenissun]

We have no idea what animals think. I believe God is found in all living things.

By the way, it is interesting that you have that view of religions, but you still identify with the Baptist religion. Or, I could say the same of any person who identifies with a particular religion. Or who identifies with a particular book of scripture.

Other religions do not have the same view on this subject as Christianity. In Christianity, it is clear and definite that animals do not have a concept of god. God knows them, they don't know God.

 

[Oncedeceived]

The New Covenant says that no one will have to tell anyone else about God because everyone will already know Him. That doesn't sound anything like Christianity, does it?

Oh but it does:

18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them. 20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified [him] not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

 

[Oncedeceived]

We have no idea what animals think. I believe God is found in all living things.

By the way, it is interesting that you have that view of religions, but you still identify with the Baptist religion. Or, I could say the same of any person who identifies with a particular religion. Or who identifies with a particular book of scripture.

You say you believe that God is found in all living things, could you elaborate please?

 

[radhead]

You say you believe that God is found in all living things, could you elaborate please?

How would anyone ever believe in God unless they could see the evidence of God in the things he has created?

 

[Oncedeceived]

How would anyone ever believe in God unless they could see the evidence of God in the things he has created?

Right, that certainly is the claim that God has made that all, including those that are claiming they don't see that evidence are in fact aware of it and are denying it.

You however said that "you" see God in everything and I wanted you to elaborate on your personal awareness of God in everything and what God means to you.

 

[radhead]

Right, that certainly is the claim that God has made that all, including those that are claiming they don't see that evidence are in fact aware of it and are denying it.

You however said that "you" see God in everything and I wanted you to elaborate on your personal awareness of God in everything and what God means to you.

I thought that I had answered it.

 

[Oncedeceived]

I thought that I had answered it.

Really. Well I am still confused I guess.