12 Tribes

[Adammi]

What are the names of the 12 tribes? It appears to me that in different places, different tribes are listed differently.

 

[2Timothy2]

The official tribes are the sons of Jacob:

1. Reuben
2. Simeon
3. Levi
4. Judah
5. Zebulun
6. Issachar
7. Dan
8. Gad
9. Asher
10. Naphtali
11. Joseph
12. Benjamin

Since Levi would serve the Lord as priests, he received no portion of the land and Josephs two sons Manasseh and Ephraim got Levi's and Joseph's portions. Sometimes Judah is mentioned but referrs to the southern kingdom and sometimes Israel is mentioned but refers to the northern kingdom. Also Ephraim is used to refer to the northern kingdom.

Also, Manasseh and Ephraim are sometimes used to replace one of the other tribes, the context will have to determine why this is done.

 

[In Christ Forever]

Since Levi would serve the Lord as priests, he received no portion of the land and Josephs two sons Manasseh and Ephraim got Levi's and Joseph's portions. Sometimes Judah is mentioned but referrs to the southern kingdom and sometimes Israel is mentioned but refers to the northern kingdom. Also Ephraim is used to refer to the northern kingdom.

Also, Manasseh and Ephraim are sometimes used to replace one of the other tribes, the context will have to determine why this is done.

The way I have viewed revelation is the 2 houses of Israel warring against each other.
Since the beast of the sea has 10 horns, this could "symbolically" represent the 10 tribes of the House of Israel[mingled with the gentiles /Roman army]
The beast of the sea has 2 horns which I believe symbolically represent the House of Judah, the 2 southern tribes.
Levi and Joseph are included in the 12 tribes of Israel in revelation, but in the land division of Ezekiel, they appear to be replaced by Dan and Ephraim, the nothern tribes. In fact, it shows these 2 as the ones coming against Jerusalem which I see as the Harlot/beast of the earth. THis is of course a whole different topic, but an interesting way of looking at revelation biblically. God bless

jeremiah 4:14 O Jerusalem, wash your heart from wickedness, That you may be saved. How long shall your evil thoughts lodge within you? 15 For a voice declares from Dan And proclaims affliction from Mount Ephraim: 16 "Make mention to the nations, Yes, proclaim against Jerusalem, [That] watchers come from a far country And raise their voice against the cities of Judah.

Jeremiah 3:8 "Then I saw that for all the causes for which backsliding Israel [10 northern scattered tribes] had committed adultery, I had put Her away and given Her a certificate of divorce; yet her Treacherous Sister Judah[2 southern tribes] did not fear, but went and played the Harlot also.

 

[2Timothy2]

Well, I'll give you this much, that is a unique interpretation.

 

[G4m]

What are the names of the 12 tribes? It appears to me that in different places, different tribes are listed differently.

Maybe have a look at these posts:

http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=8393118&postcount=8

http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=8196943&postcount=1

Do these answer your question? If not can you be more specific?

 

[daveleau]

The 12 Tribes of Israel are from the sons of Jacob and are listed in Genesis.

Gen 35:22-26

22 And it happened when Israel lived in that land, Reuben went and lay with Bilhah his father's concubine. And Israel heard it. And the sons of Jacob were twelve:
23 The sons of Leah: Reuben, Jacob's first-born, and Simeon, and Levi, and Judah, and Issachar, and Zebulun.
24 The sons of Rachel: Joseph and Benjamin.
25 And the sons of Bilhah, Rachel's slave woman: Dan and Naphtali.
26 And the sons of Zilpah, Leah's slave woman: Gad and Asher. These were the sons of Jacob born to him in Padan-aram.

 

[In Christ Forever]

The 12 Tribes of Judah are from the sons of Jacob and are listed in Genesis.

Gen 35:22-26

22 And it happened when Israel lived in that land, Reuben went and lay with Bilhah his father's concubine. And Israel heard it. And the sons of Jacob were twelve:
23 The sons of Leah: Reuben, Jacob's first-born, and Simeon, and Levi, and Judah, and Issachar, and Zebulun.
24 The sons of Rachel: Joseph and Benjamin.
25 And the sons of Bilhah, Rachel's slave woman: Dan and Naphtali.
26 And the sons of Zilpah, Leah's slave woman: Gad and Asher. These were the sons of Jacob born to him in Padan-aram.

They were actually the 12 twelves of Israel with those 12 being split into 2 nations:
The House of Judah and the House of Israel. The House of Judah/Levi is the one that actually betrayed Jesus and incurred God's wrath [note also that Judas means "Judah"]. It appears the tribes of Joseph and Levi in revelation are replaced by Dan and Ephraim in the land division of Ezekiel. God bless.

Genesis 49:28 All these [are] the twelve tribes of Israel, and this [is] what their father spoke to them. And he blessed them; he blessed each one according to his own blessing.

Hosea 8:8 Israel is swallowed up; Now they are among the Gentiles Like a vessel in which [is] no pleasure.

Jeremiah 3:8 "Then I saw that for all the causes for which backsliding Israel [10 northern scattered tribes] had committed adultery, I had put Her away and given Her a certificate of divorce; yet her Treacherous Sister Judah[2 southern tribes] did not fear, but went and played the Harlot also.

Jeremiah and the rest of the prophets speak often of the wrath coming on Jerusalem and Judah.

Jeremiah 4:13 "Behold, he shall come up like clouds, And his chariots like a whirlwind. His horses are swifter than eagles. Woe to us, for we are plundered!" 14 O Jerusalem, wash your heart from wickedness, That you may be saved. How long shall your evil thoughts lodge within you? 15 For a voice declares from Dan And proclaims affliction from Mount Ephraim: 16 "Make mention to the nations, Yes, proclaim against Jerusalem, [That] watchers come from a far country And raise their voice against the cities of Judah.


malachi 2:10 Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us? Why do we deal treacherously with one another By profaning the covenant of the fathers? 11 Judah has dealt treacherously, And an abomination has been committed in Israel and in Jerusalem, For Judah has profaned The LORD's holy [institution] which He loves: He has married the daughter of a foreign god.

Luke 21:22 "For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land andwrath upon this people.

 

[daveleau]

Yep, good catch. It is the 12 tribes of Israel. It was late when I posted...

 

[muffler dragon]

They were actually the 12 twelves of Israel with those 12 being split into 2 nations

I didn't know there were 144 tribes of Israel.

 

[@@Paul@@]

I didn't know there were 144 tribes of Israel.

Go Jacob Go!!!

 

[In Christ Forever]

They were actually the 12 twelves of Israel with those 12 being split into 2 nations

I didn't know there were 144 tribes of Israel.

Yikes!!!!!. Had my mind on the 144000 sealed, oh well.
Now if only I can figure out what foreign god Judah married so I can place it in revelation and then determine what "families of the kingdoms" are coming against Jerusalem and setting up their thrones in front of it. God bless.

malachi 2:10 Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us? Why do we deal treacherously with one another By profaning the covenant of the fathers? 11 Judah has dealt treacherously, And an abomination has been committed in Israel and in Jerusalem, For Judah has profaned The LORD's holy [institution] which He loves: He has married the daughter of a foreign god.

Jeremi 1:14 Then the LORD said to me: "Out of the north calamity shall break forth On all the inhabitants of the land. 15 For behold,I am calling All the families of the kingdoms of the north[10 kings in revelation?]," says the LORD; "They shall come and each one set his throne At the entrance of the gates of Jerusalem, Against all its walls all around, And against all the cities of Judah. 16 I will utter My judgments Against them concerning all their wickedness, Because they have forsaken Me, Burned incense to other gods, And worshiped the works of their own hands.

reve 17:16 "And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot[Judah?], make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 "For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. 18 "And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth."


reve 17:5 And on her forehead a name [was] written: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.


Nahum 3:1 Woe to the bloody city! It [is] all full of lies [and] robbery. [Its] victim never departs. 2 The noise of a whip And the noise of rattling wheels, Of galloping horses, Of clattering chariots! 3 Horsemen charge with bright sword and glittering spear. [There is] a multitude of slain, A great number of bodies, Countless corpses -- They stumble over the corpses -- 4 Because of the multitude of harlotries of the seductive harlot, The mistress of sorceries, Who sells nations through her harlotries, And families through her sorceries.

 

[Rafael]

Ephraim, was a grandson of Jacob, and received the "firsborn" blessing of God instead of Reuben. Interesting connection firstborn, Ephraim, and Jesus has with the Church:

Jeremiah 31:9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.

Micah 6:7 Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, or with ten thousands of rivers of oil? shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?

Exodus 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Hebrews 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

 

[In Christ Forever]

Ephraim, was a grandson of Jacob, and received the "firsborn" blessing of God instead of Reuben. Interesting connection firstborn, Ephraim, and Jesus has with the Church:

Interesting. If we look at the land division of Ezekiel, it shows Dan and Ephraim replacing the Levi and Joseph [from revelation]. I don't know what significance that has, but the fact that revelation does shows armies of the north attacking kingdoms of the south. There is so much scripture that appears to confirm revelation being the destruction of Jerusalem, especially since it shows God Himself putting it into the "10 kings" minds to attack the Harlot[chapt 17]. God bless.

jeremi 4:14 O Jerusalem, wash your heart from wickedness, That you may be saved. How long shall your evil thoughts lodge within you? 15 For a voice declares from Dan And proclaims affliction from Mount Ephraim: 16 "Make mention to the nations, Yes, proclaim against Jerusalem, [That] watchers come from a far country And raise their voice against the cities of Judah.


revela 18:5 "For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. 6 "Render to her just as she rendered to you, and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her.23 "The light of a lamp shall not shine in you anymore, and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall not be heard in you anymore.

Jeremiah 16:9 For thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: "Behold, I will cause to cease from this place, before your eyes and in your days, the voice of mirth and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride. 17 "For My eyes [are] on all their ways; they are not hidden from My face, nor is their iniquity hidden from My eyes. 18 "And first I will repay double for their iniquity and their sin, because they have defiled My land; they have filled My inheritance with the carcasses of their detestable and abominable idols."