Ten features are a lot. I think that a man can really look for all of them in a woman, but I think if the male and the female discover that they have kindred souls, defining the features is no longer so important.
Submissiveness... That's a bit tricky.
I want to be told that "I'm wrong" when I actually am. I want her independence to be fulfilled, I want to respectfully disagree with one another...
Otherwise, what's the point? You're sent to learn from each other as well as grow together.
I've had difficulty finding suitable content in the trad sphere. It's a mixed bag and the messages aren't always biblically sound or the delivery is not to my liking. But I happened upon two people on a platform I rarely visit and they're what I've been seeking.
This little nugget was worthy of sharing. The author is male and I don't believe he's married and he's Christian. Sometimes I wonder if we spend too much time on the wrong things and not enough on what matters most.
~bella
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Submissiveness... That's a bit tricky.
I want to be told that "I'm wrong" when I actually am. I want her independence to be fulfilled, I want to respectfully disagree with one another...
Otherwise, what's the point? You're sent to learn from each other as well as grow together.
I do not find Paul's teachings confusing nor do I believe the Lord would ignore someone who desired to understand who possessed His Spirit. The bible tells us He isn't the author of confusion. We were given the Holy Spirit's purpose and role in our instruction. And we're reminded that He will answer a righteous and sincere prayer.
They all have the anointing of the Holy Spirit already when Peter said some of Paul's writings/teachings are not making any sense.
For what reason the Holy Spirit would not reveal Paul's writings with clarity to Peter?
The passage you're referencing is 2 Peter 3:16. I will quote the proceeding verse for context.
And consider the patience of our Lord [His delay in judging and avenging wrongs] as salvation [that is, allowing time for more to be saved]; just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given to him [by God].
Peter confirms Paul's writings are the result of wisdom derived from God. He establishes this in preparation for what follows.
speaking about these things as he does in all of his letters. In which there are some things that are difficult to understand, which the untaught and unstable [who have fallen into error] twist and misinterpret, just as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.
He's addressing the Lord's patience in the reference for things and acknowledges Paul does the same continually in his letters. Which attests to his consistency.
Peter isn't confused nor does the text suggest it. Only the untaught and unstable are confused. But the latter doesn't seek enlightenment nor are Paul's writings the lone ones that confuse them.
Once he clarifies the situation he reminds them how they differ in the verse that follows and provides a warning.
Therefore, [let me warn you] beloved, knowing these things beforehand, be on your guard so that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men [who distort doctrine] and fall from your own steadfastness [of mind, knowledge, truth, and faith].
Steadfast
: firmly fixed in place; immovable
: not subject to change
: firm in belief, determination, or adherence; loyal
Peter is giving them a heads up in these passages. Beware of these things. Beware of these people. If you listen you'll go astray.
~bella
It wasn’t Peter or his audience to whom Paul’s writings are unclear.They all have the anointing of the Holy Spirit already when Peter said some of Paul's writings/teachings are not making any sense.
For what reason the Holy Spirit would not reveal Paul's writings with clarity to Peter?
You really need to study that passage in Greek. The English translation tones it down. What Peter is actually saying is that some of Paul's teachings could not be understood rather than difficult to understand. Big difference there.
Yes, people will try put meaning in poetry even where's really no meaning to it. I prefer to just leave alone. I treat it in the same manner as reading some of the laws put down by Moses in Leviticus. We read in Leviticus that adulterers must be stoned to death. But we don't do it.
It wasn’t Peter or his audience to whom Paul’s writings are unclear.
“As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.”
—2 Peter 3:16-17
Peter did not in any way indicate that he did not understand Pauls words.They all have the anointing of the Holy Spirit already when Peter said some of Paul's writings/teachings are not making any sense.
For what reason the Holy Spirit would not reveal Paul's writings with clarity to Peter?
Nah, it isn’t Peter who was unclear about Paul’s teachings..it is plain to see he says it is the wicked he is referring to, not himself or his audience. That’s further reinforced when he goes on to encourage his audience to not be led astray by the wicked, and to remain in steadfastness. Peter and Paul in fact were in 100% agreement as far as marital roles.Yet, Peter said they are unclear to himself too right in the verse you quoted.
What Peter said in Greek was dusnoétos from the words "dus"(not, un, mal, without) + "noeó" (think, perceive, think).
Same as anoétos which generally means "mindless" or "without thinking" or even foolishness.
It's leaning toward unpleasant. In a way, Peter is criticizing some of Paul's teachings.
We're dealing with far-from-perfect characters in the Bible which certainly includes both Peter and Paul.
We recount many characters in the Bible making mistakes, some plainly obvious and explicitly stated. While some are not as plain and obvious and quite disturbingly, humanity built the world's most powerful religion around those mistakes.
@timewerx
If memory serves you had reservations about Paul in the past. I'm uncertain if that still holds true. But if it does you may wish to include your concerns for context on your position. While that isn't the premise of the OP it isn't off-topic to the degree where it's unrelated.
~bella
I'm not trying to read the Bible like a crime novel because I'm bored. But if you really pay attention, deconstruct your mind of all the biases of religion, upbringing, other people, and society, even humanity, the truth really begins to unfold. The New Testament is mostly about a warning of things that may not seem as they are.
Thus, many of Paul's letters are strongly audience-specific and mostly likely not meant for us. The message of Jesus in the Gospels + Holy Spirit already encompass all we need to know in order to grow our mind and Spirit in matters of God and the Truth.
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