Image Of The Beast

Brain Damage · Aug 29, 2004

Big Mouth Nana said:
No, I'm not mixed up, LOL. Yes, I am post trib. We are probably going to be persecuted, but it doesn't say anywhere in the bible that I can find, that the church is going to be killed, LOL. There may be some martyrs, as there always are down through the centuries, but the bulk of the church is going to be triumphant through the tribulation. That's kind of rude for us to go through the tribulation, and then God let the AC snuff us out don't you think? The only ones that it mentions in the bible being killed during the AC's time on earth, are the beheaded, which are the 144,000 I firmly believe.

But your the one who believes the mark will be world wide , and if you don't take the mark then it's KUPUTSKI! for you , so what are you talking about ?.. :scratch:

Ah don't bother to answer me , i've had enough of this ..lol

Brain Damage · Aug 29, 2004

Big Mouth Nana said:
I'll retract part of my statement. I just ran into this verse....Rev 14:11-13 ~ And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord hinceforth (martyrs I think): Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them. This is right before the sickle, or taking out of the church.

..Finaly she gets it! ...geeeez!..lol

Big Mouth Nana · Aug 29, 2004

Brain Damage said:
But your the one who believes the mark will be world wide , and if you don't take the mark then it's KUPUTSKI! for you , so what are you talking about ?..

Ah don't bother to answer me , i've had enough of this ..lol

LOL. What's the matter Brain? Am I giving you a "Brain ache"? The mark will be worldwide. The church is worldwide. Do you think that it is impossible for Almighty God to keep the church safe? Gee, He kept the death angel from killing the Israelites, He parted the red sea for them, he kept Noah and his family safe floating in an ark for 40 days and 40 nights...etc....GEESH!!! I can comprehend Him keeping the church safe very easily.

Big Mouth Nana · Aug 29, 2004

Brain Damage said:
..Finaly she gets it! ...geeeez!..lol

HUH? I always knew what I was saying. I just found the other verse talking about "those that die in the Lord hinceforth". ....Martyrs...Not the entire church!!!

Brain Damage · Aug 29, 2004

Big Mouth Nana said:
HUH? I always knew what I was saying. I just found the other verse talking about "those that die in the Lord hinceforth". ....Martyrs...Not the entire church!!!

..Oh please don't talk to me , i can't take it no more ..:crosself:

Big Mouth Nana · Aug 29, 2004

Brain Damage said:
..Oh please don't talk to me , i can't take it no more ..:crosself:

FINE.........GRUMP!!!!!!!!!

In Christ Forever · Aug 30, 2004

HUH? I always knew what I was saying. I just found the other verse talking about "those that die in the Lord hinceforth". ....Martyrs...Not the entire church!!!

Yep. Correct again Nana Of course I don't want to be thrown to lions, beheaded or burned at the stake, but whatever God wills, His will be done. [I am still curious about that word "beheaded" ]
That is why it is important to have strength in the faith of Jesus, and the Words of Jesus in the bible give us that strength, as even in death, we are made alive

1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you -- unless you believed in vain. 17 And if Christ is not risen, your faith [is] futile; you are still in your sins! 18 Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable. 20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, [and] has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.

Psalms 91:1 He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High Shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. 2 I will say of the LORD, "[He is] my refuge and my fortress; My God, in Him I will trust." 3 Surely He shall deliver you from the snare of the fowler [And] from the perilous pestilence. 4 He shall cover you with His feathers, And under His wings you shall take refuge; His truth [shall be your] shield and buckler. 5 You shall not be afraid of the terror by night, [Nor] of the arrow [that] flies by day, 6 [Nor] of the pestilence [that] walks in darkness, [Nor] of the destruction [that] lays waste at noonday. 7 A thousand may fall at your side, And ten thousand at your right hand; [But] it shall not come near you. 8 Only with your eyes shall you look, And see the reward of the wicked.

Kingdom_Come · Aug 30, 2004

If I were to say, you are in America and so I decide to tell you a story and say next week an American man is going to sail a ship from the west coast and over the next 30 days he will be on the ocean until he reaches another coast half way across the world. Now I say let's back track, you are now on the other side of the world. I tell you that in 30 days you will see 3 ships. One will be English, one will be Russian and one will be American. Have I not told you the same story? Each one has its details and each is from a different perspective. Yet they are happening over the same time period.

The point of this is to illustrate how we need to look at prophecy. The Lord shows a little here and a little there but they pertain to the timeframe He has set up all the way up to the time of the end. They show different perspectives on what will be going on at different points along the way. We also have to look for the things that will be happening simultaneously or in close proximity to each other in time but yet may be in different places.

Big Mouth Nana · Aug 30, 2004

Yep. Correct again Nana Of course I don't want to be thrown to lions, beheaded or burned at the stake, but whatever God wills, His will be done. That is why it is important to have strength in the faith of Jesus, and the Words of Jesus in the bible give us that strength, as even in death, we are made alive

1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you -- unless you believed in vain. 17 And if Christ is not risen, your faith [is] futile; you are still in your sins! 18 Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable. 20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, [and] has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.

Psalms 91:1 He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High Shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. 2 I will say of the LORD, "[He is] my refuge and my fortress; My God, in Him I will trust." 3 Surely He shall deliver you from the snare of the fowler [And] from the perilous pestilence. 4 He shall cover you with His feathers, And under His wings you shall take refuge; His truth [shall be your] shield and buckler. 5 You shall not be afraid of the terror by night, [Nor] of the arrow [that] flies by day, 6 [Nor] of the pestilence [that] walks in darkness, [Nor] of the destruction [that] lays waste at noonday. 7 A thousand may fall at your side, And ten thousand at your right hand; [But] it shall not come near you. 8 Only with your eyes shall you look, And see the reward of the wicked.

In Christ Forever said:

[I am still curious about that word "beheaded" ]

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It means that if you don't worship the antichrist, you will have your head chopped off, LOL I don't think that the church as a whole will have to worry about that. Sure, there will be martyrs, but like you said, whatever God wills. Have you ever read Fox's Book Of Martyrs? These people preached while being burned at the stake, while drowning, and were dying what would have been normally horrible deaths. They acted like they felt no pain while doing this

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Big Mouth Nana · Aug 30, 2004

Each one has its details and each is from a different perspective. Yet they are happening over the same time period.

The point of this is to illustrate how we need to look at prophecy. The Lord shows a little here and a little there but they pertain to the timeframe He has set up all the way up to the time of the end. They show different perspectives on what will be going on at different points along the way. We also have to look for the things that will be happening simultaneously or in close proximity to each other in time but yet may be in different places.[/QUOTE]

Kingdom_Come said:
If I were to say, you are in America and so I decide to tell you a story and say next week an American man is going to sail a ship from the west coast and over the next 30 days he will be on the ocean until he reaches another coast half way across the world. Now I say let's back track, you are now on the other side of the world. I tell you that in 30 days you will see 3 ships. One will be English, one will be Russian and one will be American. Have I not told you the same story?

Is this a quiz

LOL.
Gods word is not some big secret. He doesn't speak to us in parables, and His Spirit reveals the truth, to those that really want to know the truth...1st John 2:20 ~ But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

Archangel · Aug 30, 2004

Hey, Just a couple of points I want to make in relation to what has already been said.

For the whole 'beheaded' thing, we should look at the passage in Revelation in its context.

4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
[Revelation 20:4-6]

This first part of the chapter tells us about the removal of Satan and the establishment of the millenial reign of Christ and his Saints.
Now there are some issues here, cause you may be an amillennialist, post-millennialist, or pre-millenniaslist, so views will differ here.

Now personally I take a pre-millenniaslist view, but that is irrelevent at the moment.

These guys who have been beheaded. are 'blessed and holy' because they are those who are in the 'first resurrestion'. These guys are the Old Testiment saints, the Church saints and the tribulation saints. These are the guys in chapters 4 and 5 of Revelation including those who came to Christ during the tribulation [ie the ones who had not worshipped the beast]

The main point of this section of the passage is that all saints, those who are not of the world, will one day be rulers of the earth. They were judged by the earth, but now they judge the earth [v4]

Big Mouth Nana · Aug 30, 2004

Archangel said:
Hey, Just a couple of points I want to make in relation to what has already been said.

For the whole 'beheaded' thing, we should look at the passage in Revelation in its context.

4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
[Revelation 20:4-6]

This first part of the chapter tells us about the removal of Satan and the establishment of the millenial reign of Christ and his Saints.
Now there are some issues here, cause you may be an amillennialist, post-millennialist, or pre-millenniaslist, so views will differ here.

Now personally I take a pre-millenniaslist view, but that is irrelevent at the moment.

These guys who have been beheaded. are 'blessed and holy' because they are those who are in the 'first resurrestion'. These guys are the Old Testiment saints, the Church saints and the tribulation saints. These are the guys in chapters 4 and 5 of Revelation including those who came to Christ during the tribulation [ie the ones who had not worshipped the beast]

The main point of this section of the passage is that all saints, those who are not of the world, will one day be rulers of the earth. They were judged by the earth, but now they judge the earth [v4]

Well, I don't see anything to disagree with here, except the pre-millennial view, LOL. Sometimes a person can get so caught up in their own time frame, that you can forget that there were OT saints prophets etc. That explains to me even more, the MUCH people in heaven in Rev 19:1, right after the, Come Out Of Her My People in Rev 18:4.

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In Christ Forever · Aug 30, 2004

These guys who have been beheaded. are 'blessed and holy' because they are those who are in the 'first resurrestion'. These guys are the Old Testiment saints, the Church saints and the tribulation saints. These are the guys in chapters 4 and 5 of Revelation including those who came to Christ during the tribulation [ie the ones who had not worshipped the beast]

The main point of this section of the passage is that all saints, those who are not of the world, will one day be rulers of the earth. They were judged by the earth, but now they judge the earth [v4]

Yes. In essence, we are also those in Christ and literally reign with Him on earth now, but what happens when we are "resurrected"? Beheaded is a form of "seperation", like the body from the head I guess, and I am trying to look at it symbolically and see what I come up with.[only because it used this word instead of "killed" I guess]
How will we be reigning after this? As spiritual angels and do we have a special place to go to? That appears to be the biggest mystery to me. I can't even comprehend that one though I do try and hopefully, I can find out more as I read the bible, but as this passage here says, I guess we look forward to that as the greatest reward of living in Christ.

1 corin 2:9 But as it is written: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him." 10 But God has revealed [them] to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.

galat 5:22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those [who are] Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

ephesian 5:6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not be partakers with them. 8For you were once darkness, but now [you are] light in the Lord. Walk as children of light 9 (for the fruit of the Spirit [is] in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), 10 finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose [them.]

Archangel · Aug 30, 2004

In Christ Forever said:
Yes. In essence, we are also those in Christ and literally reign with Him on earth now, but what happens when we are "resurrected"? Beheaded is a form of "seperation", like the body from the head I guess, and I am trying to look at it symbolically and see what I come up with.[only because it used this word instead of "killed" I guess]
How will we be reigning after this? As spiritual angels and do we have a special place to go to?

Greetings In Christ Forever,

I would like to just question a couple of things you have said.
Firstly about our reign with Christ. It seems to me that you believe this to be a present reigning [literally reign with Him on earth now], do you also believe that the 1000 year period in Rev 20 is happening at the moment?

I like the thought of the beheading representing a form of seperation, but does this mean that we interpret it symbollicly? I see no biblical reason to spiritalize this word. If the passage says they were beheaded, then they are to be beheaded by the beast, for their testimoney in Christ Jesus, spiritalising this will bring many errors and problems as speculation will rise.
I wasn't happy with the idea you have that you will look at the passage symbolically and see what you come up with. The bible surely is not a puzzle that we have to come up with ideas, it is breath of God and will speak for itself in its biblical and historical context.

The 1000 years I believe to be interpreted literally and that Christ literally comes to begin that period. Christ does not come at the end of this period, he comes before to raise the righteous to rule with him, this is real and literal, is there any reason it should be otherwise, and if this then is literal then so is the beheading of the saints.

We need to interpret passages with wisdom, and see if they are symbolic or not, for example, symbolisim is obvious if a vision says "I saw a beast like and bear"

Don't come up with ideas, examine, study and pray over the word of God.

Big Mouth Nana · Aug 30, 2004

Greetings In Christ Forever,

I would like to just question a couple of things you have said.
Firstly about our reign with Christ. do you also believe that the 1000 year period in Rev 20 is happening at the moment?

If the passage says they were beheaded, then they are to be beheaded by the beast, for their testimoney in Christ Jesus, spiritalising this will bring many errors and problems as speculation will rise.
I wasn't happy with the idea you have that you will look at the passage symbolically and see what you come up with. The bible surely is not a puzzle that we have to come up with ideas, it is breath of God and will speak for itself in its biblical and historical context.

The 1000 years I believe to be interpreted literally and that Christ literally comes to begin that period. Christ does not come at the end of this period, he comes before to raise the righteous to rule with him, this is real and literal, is there any reason it should be otherwise, and if this then is literal then so is the beheading of the saints.

We need to interpret passages with wisdom, and see if they are symbolic or not, for example, symbolisim is obvious if a vision says "I saw a beast like and bear"

Don't come up with ideas, examine, study and pray over the word of God.[/QUOTE]

Archangel said:
It seems to me that you believe this to be a present reigning [literally reign with Him on earth now],

I believe that we are reigning now, based on this scripture.....Eph 2:5-6 ~ Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved

6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: This is of course reigning in the Spirit.

I like the thought of the beheading representing a form of seperation, but does this mean that we interpret it symbollicly? I see no biblical reason to spiritalize this word.

I believe it is a literal beheading myself. It is not hard to tell what is symbolism, and what is just basic understanding....like the beast rising out of the sea LOL. When I was a kid, I envisioned this like the Loch Ness monster....no understanding at age 10.

NumberOneSon · Aug 30, 2004

Big Mouth Nana said:
It is not hard to tell what is symbolism, and what is just basic understanding....like the beast rising out of the sea LOL. When I was a kid, I envisioned this like the Loch Ness monster....no understanding at age 10.

And yet you believe the "waters" in Rev 17 are literal? That's a head scratcher if ever there was one. :scratch:

In Christ,

Acts6:5

Big Mouth Nana · Aug 30, 2004

Acts6:5 said:
And yet you believe the "waters" in Rev 17 are literal? That's a head scratcher if ever there was one.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

Yes I do. The people aren't the waters. That's ludicrous. There is not one thing to not understand about that verse, for me anyway...The waters, which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth. The harlot is sitting on the waters. That is exactly what that verse says. It is just saying that the harlot has many peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues in the harlot. They aren't the waters

I guess it is the same thing as people not seeing the revelation in, that if it were possible, the very elect shall be deceived.

In Christ Forever · Aug 30, 2004

I like the thought of the beheading representing a form of seperation, but does this mean that we interpret it symbollicly? I see no biblical reason to spiritalize this word. If the passage says they were beheaded, then they are to be beheaded by the beast, for their testimoney in Christ Jesus, spiritalising this will bring many errors and problems as speculation will rise

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Yes I do. The people aren't the waters. That's ludicrous. There is not one thing to not understand about that verse, for me anyway...The waters, which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth. The harlot is sitting on the waters. That is exactly what that verse says. It is just saying that the harlot has many peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues in the harlot. They aren't the waters

Well, most of revelation is symbolic and uses the same jewish symbology of the OT. Also, I look up the meanings of the names of cities and even people mentioned and I notice they seem to be used in the context of passages. Do a word seach such as "waters" for example.A flood can also symbolize a "vast army" overrunning a city, as Daniel mentions "as a flood".
Ezekiel 47:19 "The south side, toward the South, [shall be] from Tamar["palm tree"] to the waters of Meribah["strife"] by Kadesh["holy"], along the brook to the Great Sea. [This is] the south side, toward the South.

NKJV Amos 5:24 But let justice run down like waters, And righteousness like a mighty stream.
Amos 5:24 But let judgment roll down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty stream.

Again, I don't know if Egypt is symbolic of Jerusalem "rising as a flood" or Egypt itself. Symbolism is used so much by God in the bible and I suppose ones interpretation can differ from others.

Jeremiah 46:6 "Do not let the swift flee away, Nor the mighty man escape; They will stumble and fall Toward the north, by the River Euphrates. 7 "Who [is] this coming up like a flood, Whose waters move like the rivers? 8 Egypt rises up like a flood, And [its] waters move like the rivers; And he says, 'I will go up [and] cover the earth, I will destroy the city and its inhabitants.' 9 Come up, O horses, and rage, O chariots! And let the mighty men come forth: The Ethiopians and the Libyans who handle the shield, And the Lydians who handle [and] bend the bow. 19 "O you daughter" dwelling in Egypt, Prepare yourself to go into captivity! For Noph shall be waste and desolate, without inhabitant. 20 " Egypt [is] a very pretty heifer, [But] destruction comes, it comes from the north.

And always from the NORTH, and a scorching East Wind along with it. Look up East wind, as that is mentioned a lot in the OT, even in Jonah. Jonah is I believe is a complete prophecy in itself. I viewed Jonah as symbolically being "Paul" preaching to Nineveh after being "vomited up" by the great fish

. The vine might represent Jerusalem, but not really sure yet. Tarshish is pretty close to the word Tarsus, where Paul was from.

ezekiel 27:25 "The ships of Tarshish["yellow jasper"] were carriers of your merchandise. You were filled and very glorious in the midst of the seas. 26 Your oarsmen brought you into many waters, But the east wind broke you in the midst of the seas.
Jonah 4:8 And it happened, when the sun arose, that God prepared a vehement east wind; and the sun beat on Jonah's head, so that he grew faint. Then he wished death for himself, and said, "[It is] better for me to die than to live."

Sometimes when reading, things just kind of pop out at me and this appeared to be close to what Jonah was saying in some ways.
Reve 9:6 In those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will desire to die, and death will flee from them.

Big Mouth Nana · Aug 30, 2004

Well, most of revelation is symbolic and uses the same jewish symbology of the OT. Also, I look up the meanings of the names of cities and even people mentioned and I notice they seem to be used in the context of passages. Do a word seach such as "waters" for example.A flood can also symbolize a "vast army" overrunning a city, as Daniel mentions "as a flood".
Ezekiel 47:19 "The south side, toward the South, [shall be] from Tamar["palm tree"] to the waters of Meribah["strife"] by Kadesh["holy"], along the brook to the Great Sea. [This is] the south side, toward the South.

NKJV Amos 5:24 But let justice run down like waters, And righteousness like a mighty stream.
Amos 5:24 But let judgment roll down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty stream.

Jeremiah 46:6 "Do not let the swift flee away, Nor the mighty man escape; They will stumble and fall Toward the north, by the River Euphrates. 7 "Who [is] this coming up like a flood, Whose waters move like the rivers? 8 Egypt rises up like a flood, And [its] waters move like the rivers; And he says, 'I will go up [and] cover the earth, I will destroy the city and its inhabitants.' 9 Come up, O horses, and rage, O chariots! And let the mighty men come forth: The Ethiopians and the Libyans who handle the shield, And the Lydians who handle [and] bend the bow. 19O you daughter dwelling in Egypt, Prepare yourself to go into captivity! For Noph shall be waste and desolate, without inhabitant. 20 " Egypt [is] a very pretty heifer, [But] destruction comes, it comes from the north.

And always from the NORTH, and a scorching East Wind along with it. Look up East wind, as that is mentioned a lot in the OT, even in Jonah. Jonah is I believe is a complete prophecy in itself. I viewed Jonah as symbolically being "Paul" preaching to Nineveh after being "vomited up" by the great fish

. The vine might represent Jerusalem, but not really sure yet. Tarshish is pretty close to the word Tarsus, where Paul was from.

ezekiel 27:25 "The ships of Tarshish["yellow jasper"] were carriers of your merchandise. You were filled and very glorious in the midst of the seas. 26 Your oarsmen brought you into many waters, But the east wind broke you in the midst of the seas.
Jonah 4:8 And it happened, when the sun arose, that God prepared a vehement east wind; and the sun beat on Jonah's head, so that he grew faint. Then he wished death for himself, and said, "[It is] better for me to die than to live."

and this appeared to be close to what Jonah was saying in some ways.
Reve 9:6 In those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will desire to die, and death will flee from them.

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In Christ Forever said:
Sometimes when reading, things just kind of pop out at me

Yep, just like the "waters, where the harlot sitteth" popped out at me when I read it. I don't believe that all receive revelation at the same time. I think it depends on your "Spiritual growth"....1st Peter 2:2 ~ As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
Matt 11:25 ~ At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes......WHERE IS MY PACIFIER, LOL?

In Christ Forever · Aug 30, 2004

Yep, just like the "waters, where the harlot sitteth" popped out at me when I read it. I don't believe that all receive revelation at the same time. I think it depends on your "Spiritual growth"....1st Peter 2:2 ~ As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
Matt 11:25 ~ At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes......WHERE IS MY PACIFIER, LOL?

Yep. I am still a "babe" in Christ, though I started to eat a lot of solid food soon after I started to read the bible, and there is plenty of solid food in it!! What a BOOK!!!!!
I just let the spirit of Christ guide me so I can't go wrong God is GREAT!

1 corin 2:13 These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know [them,] because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is [rightly] judged by no one. 16 For "who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?" But we have the mind of Christ.

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