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God did not create from nothing
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No.....I was referring to Existential Revelationist. In other words, I believe that God is the Creator because......well.......the usual reason.
Do you believe this:
Existence Precedes Essence:
You are born a blank slate. Your actions, choices, and lived experiences define your purpose (your "essence") rather than it being predetermined.
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You say the world was created 6000 years ago. How else is anyone meant to interpret that EXCEPT you being a YEC? And, no embedded age means nothing because you still say that the act of creation was 6000 years ago.
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Yes, I think existence precedes essence, ..................but here's the catch................not in Sartrean (or even Lockean) terms.
My version goes as such: You are born into a world that already exists, one for which you don't know the meaning. You live and make choices and, if you're fortunate (some would say blessed), you'll also come across ancient Christian testimonies over which you will make choices to listen and understand, or not, and which in turn will affect the essence of your growing beliefs and actions.
If you believe, in hindsight, you'll realize the Lord Jesus has been with you all along in His Providence.
And that's the essence of my own Journey Epistemology.
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Correct.
By investigating before making a snap judgement.
You know?
Investigate before you communicate?
Or can science take a hike?
Science can take a hike then?
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Would I be correct in assuming you believe prevenient grace extends beyond the age of accountability?
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YEC then.
Science also lets us see from your own words that, since you claim that the Earth was created 6000 years ago, which is what you've said in simple English that the act of creation of the world was 6000 years ago, we are left with the obvious fact that you are a Young Earth Creationist. A YEC.
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... virtually all of them use carbon. Marine20, Southern Hemisphere Calibration20, to name two.
And guess what, even when the process was invented in 1955, the creator, Willard Libby, even said that it would need calibration since the carbon content would not the same consistently throughout history.
If you'd studied the thing you're railing against, you'd know this.
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Wow the ignorance is astounding, I assume you meant radiometric rather than radiocarbon dating, all radiometric dating processes require constant calibration.
| Dating Method | What is Measured | How It Is Calibrated | Independent Check Used | Typical Calibration Frequency |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Radiocarbon (¹⁴C) | Ratio of ¹⁴C/¹²C | Measured against internationally accepted oxalic acid standards and corrected using calibration curves derived from independently dated tree rings, corals, varves, speleothems and other archives | Dendrochronology, varves, uranium-thorium dating, historical records | Calibration curves updated every few years as new data become available |
| Potassium–Argon (K–Ar) | ⁴⁰Ar produced from ⁴⁰K decay | Calibration of potassium concentration, argon mass spectrometer, and decay constants using mineral standards | Comparison with ⁴⁰Ar/³⁹Ar ages, stratigraphy, radiocarbon where applicable | Laboratory standards analysed routinely |
| Argon–Argon (⁴⁰Ar/³⁹Ar) | Ratio of ⁴⁰Ar/³⁹Ar | Irradiation is calibrated using minerals of known age (monitor standards such as Fish Canyon sanidine) | Astronomical ages, U–Pb ages, stratigraphy | Every irradiation batch |
| Uranium–Lead (U–Pb) | Parent/daughter isotope ratios | Mass spectrometers calibrated with certified isotopic standards; decay constants determined experimentally | Concordia plots, inter-laboratory standards, astronomical ages | Daily instrument calibration; standards run throughout analyses |
| Uranium–Thorium (U–Th) | ²³⁰Th/²³⁴U ratios | Instrument calibrated using isotope standards and certified reference materials | Corals of known age, speleothems, radiocarbon overlap | Every analytical session |
| Rubidium–Strontium (Rb–Sr) | ⁸⁷Rb/⁸⁷Sr ratios | Standard reference materials establish isotope ratios; isochron methods provide internal consistency | U–Pb, K–Ar, stratigraphy | Routine laboratory calibration |
| Samarium–Neodymium (Sm–Nd) | ¹⁴⁷Sm/¹⁴³Nd ratios | Certified isotope standards and mass spectrometer calibration | U–Pb dating of the same rocks | Routine |
| Fission Track | Density of fission tracks | Calibration against minerals of independently known age; zeta calibration method widely used | Radiometric ages, volcanic eruptions of known age | Individual analyst/laboratory calibration |
| Luminescence (OSL/TL) | Stored electron population | Laboratory irradiation with known radiation doses establishes dose-response curve | Independently dated sediments, archaeological sites, historical events | Each sample receives its own calibration curve |
| Electron Spin Resonance (ESR) | Number of trapped electrons | Artificial irradiation establishes dose-response calibration | U-series, luminescence, stratigraphy | Sample-specific |
| Cosmogenic Nuclides (¹⁰Be, ²⁶Al, ³⁶Cl) | Cosmogenic isotope concentration | Production rates calibrated using independently dated surfaces (lava flows, moraines, historical surfaces) | Historical eruptions, radiocarbon, exposure histories | Production-rate models periodically updated |
| Amino Acid Racemization | D/L amino acid ratios | Racemization rates calibrated against independently dated fossils from the same environment | Radiocarbon, U-series, archaeological chronology | Regional and temperature-specific calibration |
| Dendrochronology | Tree-ring sequences | Cross-matching overlapping tree-ring patterns; anchored by living trees | Historical records, radiocarbon | Continuously refined |
| Varve Chronology | Annual sediment layers | Layer counts checked against historical events and radiometric dates | Radiocarbon, tephra layers, historical eruptions | Revised as longer sequences become available |
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Seriously?
Buddy, all other radiometric datings used show that the Earth was not created 6000 years ago, so why do you only focus on Carbon-14 and act like Carbon-14 dating is the only radiometric dating method that is wrong and, to use your own words, 'science fiction' when all the others can be called the same if we use your 'logic'?
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And that sort of snap judgement is what gave us [scientific disaster here].
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'Snap judgment', based on your 20 years of posting where you have explicitly and clearly said, without deviation, that the Earth was created 6000 years ago.
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Isn't that sad?
20 years of posting and clarifying, using dictionaries, AI Overview, and other helps, and you still say this.
Your unwillingness to look only at the similiarities, without considering the differences, is very telling.
Again, science can take a hike, can't it?
If you disagree with that, then I'd advise you to investigate before you communicate.
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Buddy, you keep saying it's posting and clarifying, but you say it repeatedly and continuously in simple English: you say that the Earth was created 6000 years ago. By that simple statement from you, you implicitly and clearly put yourself as a Young Earth Creationist. You do not accept the ages given by dating methods, you refuse to accept the existence of any civilization older than the Flood existing, you say that Noah lived when the continents were together in the time of Pangaea. You say that dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time.
There is no way for anyone to not see you as a Young Earth Creationist. Because that is what you are.
Just take the loss, and humble yourself.
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Yes, indeed.
23 October 4004 BC to be exact.
By that simple statement, yes.
But there's more to it than just that simple statement.
Um ... like when I say I think some things could be millions of years old?
Correct.
Affirmative.
Yupper.
Oh, there's a way alright.
But it would take some investigating, which is something science has a history of not fully doing.
I understand your error.
You don't though.
Because you're telling science to take a hike.
You need to know how to use that mantra correctly.
In short, you need to know when to use it, know when not to choose it, know when to walk away, know when to run ...
No thanks.
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