Are professed Christians that worship our Lord on Sunday instead of Saturday sinning?

SabbathBlessings said:

First of all I never said wiped out, Paul did and I explained what was wiped out Paul was quoting- the handwritten ordinances that were contrary and against- handwritten by Moses.

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So the objection to the phrasing "removed", or wiped out is not an objection at all, because you acknowledge that Paul said the handwriting of ordinances were wiped out.

SabbathBlessings said:

I never once said the entire book of the law was removed, that was besides the ark there as a witness against (not me saying)

Deut 31:24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, 25 that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: 26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;

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What was for a witness against Israel were the commandments they would break, which was the entire law which he had just restated in Deuteronomy, the second (deutero) telling of the law (nomos). It included the ten commandments, and all the other commandments.

The text you just cited noted that. So if that is what was wiped out, you are back to saying He wiped out the law.

SabbathBlessings said:

Paul was quoting the laws he was referring to the sabbath(s) that were contained in ordinances handwritten in the Book of the law that was set beside the ark as a witness against you i.e. contrary and against- written by Moses, not God Exo31:18 Exo20:8-11, not inside the ark of God's Covenant

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The weekly Sabbath is referenced in both. And it is referenced in Numbers 28 and 29 which is particularly in view since he is recounting a list of the appointed times.

Nor were any of them wiped out. They pointed to Jesus.

SabbathBlessings said:

Exo40:20, but what contained the animal sacrifices that were all shadow laws pointing to Christ great Sacrifice for sins Heb10:1-10.

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The appointed times and sacrifices do point to Jesus. They were not against the Colossians.

And of course this is especially true because the Colossian Gentiles who were "uncircumcised in the flesh" were never under that covenant, and didn't keep those appointed times, and so were not guilty of breaking them.

But what was against them AND Paul was their record of debt of sin.

SabbathBlessings said:

I am not saying this, Scripture is and it doesn;t mean everything written in the Book of the Law was against man, but it held the curses or certificate of debt for breaking the law of God AND the blessings for keeping them.

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Now you just equated the curses for breaking the law iwth the certificate of debt. But that was not what was removed. The curses for breaking the law were not removed.

The sin itself was removed, He had forgiven all their transgressions. There was no more record of sin against them.

SabbathBlessings said:

This was the law Paul was quoting from not the Ten Commandments, written by God,

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Paul was referring to the statements of the appointed times in Numbers 28,29, and the very similar words in Ezekiel 45 and 46, and both included the weekly Sabbath.

SabbathBlessings said:

spoken by God under the mercy seat of God that shows us how to love God Deut6:5 and love our neighbor Rom13:9.

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The commandments to love God and love our neighbor are in the book of the law. The rest of the law, including the ten commandments "hang" on them per Jesus.


They are the great principles.

SabbathBlessings said:

That was never handwritten, contrary or against man 1 John5:3 only breaking them is where the curses happen and we see this all throughout the OT including breaking the Sabbath Eze20:15-16. Jesus never removed the law that defines sin 1John3:4 James2:11 He removed the penalty of the law that calls for death Rom6:23

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I was noting from the beginning what he took away was the sins, not the law or the penalty. The handwritten certificate of debt was the record of sin.

It was not the "penalty" of the law that was removed. He didn't remove the penalty of the law. He paid it.

Our penalty was removed from us because we no longer had a debt, since it was paid.

If that is what you mean, we agree. But that does not at all say some part, any part, of the book of the law was blotted out. Transgressions were and the record of them were.

SabbathBlessings said:

This was about doubtful disputations, the Ten Commandments written by God was never a doubtful disputation.

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Of course the ten commandments are not disputed. Nor did they go away, including the Sabbath. Nor did the other appointed times.

What was disputed were those judging people.

This is parallel to Colossians, where the uncircumcised in the flesh Gentile Christians didn't need to worry about people judging them for the appointed times, because they were already complete in Christ.

SabbathBlessings said:

When we start doubting God's work Exo32:16 and Testimony Exo31:18 as a doubtful disputation, we lost the fight and sadly many don't even realize it.

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We didn't doubt God's work. I only pointed out your incorrect reading of Col. 2.

The Sabbath is still the Sabbath. Pentecost is still Pentecost. They were for Israel forever:

That is why Paul was doing both.

SabbathBlessings said:

The Ten Commandments is the law of God according to God Exo20:6, has God's name in the commandments on how we love Him, under the mercy seat of God, not Moses and predates Moses Exo20:11 and no commandment in the Ten Commandments for circumcision. You're making a strawman argument.

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The ten commandments are the law of God, and so were the other commandments given by God. Moses didn't make them up. The two greatest, per Jesus, were outside the ten, and the whole law, including the ten hang on them.

Circumcision was also in the law. But it was not required of Gentiles by the Acts council, and they didn't have to keep the whole law of Moses.

There is no strawman argument.

SabbathBlessings said:

Jesus never died so we can remain in sin Heb10:26-30

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Jesus did not die for us to remain in sin. But you haven't shown that the Colossian Gentiles were sinning by not keeping appointed times that they were not under, and which pointed to Jesus in Whom they were already complete.

SabbathBlessings said:

Those in Christ are not rebelling against the law of God

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Neither were the Colossians. Which is why he said don't let people judge you over these appointed times. They were complete in Jesus.

tall73 said:

Of course the ten commandments are not disputed. Nor did they go away, including the Sabbath. Nor did the other appointed times.

What was disputed were those judging people.

This is parallel to Colossians, where the uncircumcised in the flesh Gentile Christians didn't need to worry about people judging them for the appointed times, because they were already complete in Christ.

Colossians 2:16-17​

16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. (NKJV)​

We didn't doubt God's work. I only pointed out your incorrect reading of Col. 2.

The Sabbath is still the Sabbath. Pentecost is still Pentecost. They were for Israel forever:

Exodus 31:16-17​

16 Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. 17 It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed.’ ” (NKJV)​

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Leviticus 23:20-21​

20 The priest shall wave them with the bread of the firstfruits as a wave offering before the LORD, with the two lambs. They shall be holy to the LORD for the priest. 21 And you shall proclaim on the same day that it is a holy convocation to you. You shall do no customary work on it. It shall be a statute forever in all your dwellings throughout your generations. (NKJV)​

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That is why Paul was doing both.

Acts 20:16​

16 For Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus, so that he would not have to spend time in Asia; for he was hurrying to be at Jerusalem, if possible, on the Day of Pentecost. (NKJV)​

The ten commandments are the law of God, and so were the other commandments given by God. Moses didn't make them up. The two greatest, per Jesus, were outside the ten, and the whole law, including the ten hang on them.

Circumcision was also in the law. But it was not required of Gentiles by the Acts council, and they didn't have to keep the whole law of Moses.

There is no strawman argument.




Jesus did not die for us to remain in sin. But you haven't shown that the Colossian Gentiles were sinning by not keeping appointed times that they were not under, and which pointed to Jesus in Whom they were already complete.




Neither were the Colossians. Which is why he said don't let people judge you over these appointed times. They were complete in Jesus.

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Colossians 2:8 warns against traditions of men, not the commandments of God. Jesus never taught anyone to set aside God’s commandments, but condemned doing so as making the word of God of no effect Mark 7:7–13; Matt 15:3–9. Therefore, using Colossians 2:16 to dismiss the word of God, what God personally blessed and sanctified Gen 2:3 Exo20:11 and is one of God's personally written commandments Exo31:18 Exo20:6 misapplies Paul and puts him in conflict with Christ. No one is complete in Jesus by being in rebellion to His commandments Rom8:7-8 Isa 48:18 John14:15 Exo20:6 Rev22:14 Rev22:14. Paul taught keeping the commandments of God is what matters 1Cor7:19 never taught anyone to not keep them including the Sabbath. He kept the Sabbath with the God-fearing Gentiles and never corrected anyone once, because that would undermine Christ Mat5:19 the Sabbath is a long standing practice Exo20:11 that continued in the NT Acts 15:21 because it was ordained by God and one of His commandments written by God Himself that God's people keep through love and faith Rev14:12 Rev22:14.

Hentenza said:

Straw man. The poster told you explicitly that the commandments had not been set aside and no one here has argued that. Fallacies are very common with you and your group. Perhaps you don’t understand what a fallacy is.

Perhaps this link about what fallacies are might help you.

List of fallacies - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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There is no straw man here. I did not claim anyone explicitly said God’s commandments were set aside; I said Colossians 2:16 is being used in a way that functionally does that. When a passage is appealed to dismiss obedience to what God blessed and sanctified Gen 2:3 Exo20:11 and is one of God's commandments Exo20:6 Exo20:8-11, that is precisely what Jesus warned against in Mark 7:7–13, regardless of intent. Its what Paul taught too Col2:8, so to use the same passage to teach against obedience to God's commandments appears is doing exactly that.


The issue is not labels or fallacies; it is whether an interpretation of Paul aligns with Christ’s teaching. If an interpretation places Paul in tension with Jesus, then the interpretation, not the commandment, needs to be reexamined. I think this is precisely why we have the warning against misapplying the teachings of Paul which lands one in some pretty serious consequences. I do not believe Paul taught in contrast to Christ and if we can't duplicate our understandings of his teachings with what Christ taught, especially something so personal to God as the Sabbath of the Lord, the holy day of the Lord, that comes with His power of blessings and sanctification , I would be more cautious of that interpretation. But that's me, we are free to reject or accept any warning in Scripture we like and just know God will be our judge and once He returns our decisions final Rev22:11. I appreciate your stepping in once again and providing your thoughts, I just wish one would consider the rules of the forum as to address the post and not the poster as I believe these are good Christian rules to follow, regardless if the administrators wish not to enforce.. I am OK agreeing to disagree.

Soyeong said:

In Acts 2:46, they broke bread together in the Temple on every day, so it does not refer to the Eucharist.

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Total nonsense.

under grace1 said:

Yes the council of Trent states salvation is achieved by faith, baptism and obeying the TC.
Wouldnt that be the same as sda belief?

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No SDA statement says "salvation is achieved by obeying the Ten Commandments"

Rather we are saved by grace through faith.

The fruit of the good true... is the good fruit of obedience according to Christ in Matt 7.
Bad trees do not produce good fruit in order to become good trees according to Christ in Matt 7 and that is the SDA teaching as well

BobRyan said:

No SDA statement says "salvation is achieved by obeying the Ten Commandments"

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Unless you believe in Ellen White, one of the fundamental doctrines every SDA agrees to uphold.

BobRyan said:

Rather we are saved by grace through faith.

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And keeping the Sabbath and paying tithe. Those two things hinge on salvation according to the church.

BobRyan said:

The fruit of the good true... is the good fruit of obedience according to Christ in Matt 7.

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Obedience to the Law of Love.

BobRyan said:

Bad trees do not produce good fruit in order to become good trees according to Christ in Matt 7 and that is the SDA teaching as well

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12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

BobRyan said:

No SDA statement says "salvation is achieved by obeying the Ten Commandments"
Rather we are saved by grace through faith.
The fruit of the good true... is the good fruit of obedience according to Christ in Matt 7.
Bad trees do not produce good fruit in order to become good trees according to Christ in Matt 7 and that is the SDA teaching as well

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Hentenza said:

That’s just lip service.

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you need to read more

BobRyan said:

No SDA statement says "salvation is achieved by obeying the Ten Commandments"

Rather we are saved by grace through faith.

The fruit of the good true... is the good fruit of obedience according to Christ in Matt 7.
Bad trees do not produce good fruit in order to become good trees according to Christ in Matt 7 and that is the SDA teaching as well

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BobRyan said:

Bob S said:

Unless you believe in Ellen White,

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you don't seem to have read much of what she wrote.. But in case you want to go to the SDA section of this board and argue your speculation there... feel free. I would bury your posts in Ellen White's statements about being saved by grace.. but I won't do it on my thread here because "Ellen White" is not my theme here. You need to get out more.

mean while

Hentenza said:

I read enough.

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try to hold a conversation here that pays attention to the details

SabbathBlessings said:

There is no straw man here. I did not claim anyone explicitly said God’s commandments were set aside; I said Colossians 2:16 is being used in a way that functionally does that.

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The irony is you were the one saying things were set aside.

God says that Pentecost is a holy convocation, and would be a statute forever for Israel. Paul was in a hurry to get back for it. But you say it was blotted out. But it was not blotted out. It pointed to Jesus.

I did not indicate that the things listed in Colossians 2:16 were set aside. They continued to be observed by those to whom they were given.

Colossians 2:16 says all of the things listed are shadows. Your effort to deflect from the OT context, that the passages which list the appointed times include the weekly Sabbath such as Number 28 and 29, and Ezekiel 45 and 46, did not change the reality.

The uncircumcised in the flesh, Gentile Colossian Christians should not let anyone judge them regarding them. Gentile Christians were not required to observe the appointed times of Israel. They were complete in Him. But the appointed times are not set aside. The Israelite believers kept observing the law, and were zealous for it, as we see in Acts 21.

Paul did not remove the law. But your interpretation argued that a perpetual statute was done away with.

Hentenza said:

That’s just lip service. If a person doesn’t rest on Saturday so then they are sinning and if they don’t repent of their sin for not resting on saturday then get the mark of the beast according to your prophetess and consequently not saved. This is faith plus works plainly.

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Well, let's first note what Ellen White says:


So yes, Ellen White says if we turn aside from the Sabbath we cannot be saved.

Now where I agree with Adventists is when they note that the Scriptures say if someone claims to be a Christian, but willfully continues to commit adultery, idolatry, stealing, etc. without repentance, that person would not inherit the kingdom of God:


Some of the Corinthians were such but they were washed, sanctified, and justified.

That does not mean we are saved by perfect obedience to the law. We are all sinners. The wages of sin is death. There is no obedience path to salvation open to us, as we have broken the law. But the gift of God is eternal life. If we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us of all unrighteousness (1 John 1).
We have a righteousness apart from law that the law and prophets testify to (Romans 3).

But those who are washed and sanctified and justified will not continue in sinful lifestyles without repentence. Those who think so are decieving themselves. as the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God.

If God did command all people, including the Colossian Gentile Christians, to observe the Sabbath, then of course they should not reject what God commands.

And on the other hand, if He did not, and included it among the shadows that pointed to Christ, that the Gentile Colossians believers were not to be judged by because they were already complete in Him, then it would be wrong to judge people in contradiction to God's will.

Either side has to wrestle with going against God's desires if they interpret incorrectly.

Both sides are trying to make sense of all the Biblical data. When I was an Adventist minister I began to change my view on the question when I realized that:

• the Jewish believers in Acts 21 kept being zealous for the whole law (we see this includes Pentecost for example in the case of Paul).
• The Gentile Christians were not required to be circumcised and keep the law of Moses.
• the OT context regarding the appointed times (Numbers 28,29 and Ezekiel 45, 46) included the weekly Sabbath
• the Sabbath is said to be a sign with Israel throughout their generations
• The Sabbath is said to point to their Redeemer from Egypt as well as their Creator
• Ezekiel 20 says that the Sabbath was a sign in addition to the laws by which one lives
• there is no record of anyone being commanded to keep the Sabbath, or observing the Sabbath until Exodus 16
• the Israelites themselves had to have the Sabbath explained to them in the second month after coming out of Egypt, which means various would-be Sabbaths passed by without it being explained.
• Romans 14 is broadly stated, regarding observing or not observing to the Lord.
• The law was not just the ten commandments, and Jesus refers to both commands from the ten, and those out of it in Matthew 5 when He says that the law will not pass away until all is fulfilled.
• Exodus was not quoting Genesis in regards to the Sabbath, and both were written after the command was given by God in Ex. 16, and spoken by God in Ex. 20 as Genesis and Exodus are one narrative, and relate that history, and the command for Moses to write in a book what He was told.
• When Romans 2 spoke of those who did not have the law having the law written on the heart it referred to following the conscience and what God revelaed about Himself in general revelation. They were not keeping Passover or the Sabbath , but they were able to know that God was the Creator, see His power, and knew that He required us not to steal, kill, etc. but to love Him and others.

Freth said:

If God's law is written in the heart (Jeremiah 31:33, Hebrews 8:10, Hebrews 10:16), then it didn't go anywhere. This then would include the Sabbath, not negate it, which Jesus verified (Matthew 5:18-19).

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Which if it were true, would mean, no one could be in a saved state unless they in their heart desired to observe a set Saturday sabbath

tall73 said:

The irony is you were the one saying things were set aside.

Leviticus 23:20-21​

20 The priest shall wave them with the bread of the firstfruits as a wave offering before the LORD, with the two lambs. They shall be holy to the LORD for the priest. 21 And you shall proclaim on the same day that it is a holy convocation to you. You shall do no customary work on it. It shall be a statute forever in all your dwellings throughout your generations. (NKJV)​

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Jesus wasn't quoting from the feasts days in the law of Moses- He quoted from the Ten Commandments, the laws that are under His mercy seat. Mat 15:3-14 Mark7:7-13

tall73 said:

God says that Pentecost is a holy convocation, and would be a statute forever for Israel. Paul was in a hurry to get back for it. But you say it was blotted out. But it was not blotted out. It pointed to Jesus.

I did not indicate that the things listed in Colossians 2:16 were set aside. They continued to be observed by those to whom they were given.

Colossians 2:16 says all of the things listed are shadows. Your effort to deflect from the OT context, that the passages which list the appointed times include the weekly Sabbath such as Number 28 and 29, and Ezekiel 45 and 46, did not change the reality.

The uncircumcised in the flesh, Gentile Colossian Christians should not let anyone judge them regarding them. Gentile Christians were not required to observe the appointed times of Israel. They were complete in Him. But the appointed times are not set aside. The Israelite believers kept observing the law, and were zealous for it, as we see in Acts 21.

Paul did not remove the law. But your interpretation argued that a perpetual statute was done away with.

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Paul was never quoting one of the Ten Commandments- God never wrote the handwritten ordinances, Moses did. God wrote the Ten Commandments, the only laws under His mercy seat and included Ten Deut4:13 not nine.

tall73 said:

Well, let's first note what Ellen White says:

Satan is the sharpest critic that the world has ever known, and he works to hinder and pervert truth. He has induced men to strive to change the Sabbath of the fourth commandment. Under his dictation the first day of the week has been adopted by the Christian world as the Sabbath. He has used his masterly mind to influence other men to adopt the same views that he himself entertains. But if we turn aside from the fourth commandment, so positively given by God, to adopt the inventions of Satan, voiced and acted by men under his control, we cannot be saved. We cannot with safety receive his traditions and subtleties as truth. {RH, July 6, 1897 par. 4}​

So yes, Ellen White says if we turn aside from the Sabbath we cannot be saved.

Now where I agree with Adventists is when they note that the Scriptures say if someone claims to be a Christian, but willfully continues to commit adultery, idolatry, stealing, etc. without repentance, that person would not inherit the kingdom of God:

1 Corinthians 6:9-11​

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. (NKJV)​

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Breaking the Sabbath called for the death penalty in the OT Exodus 31:14–15 as did murder Numbers 35:16–21, 30–31 as did Idolatry Deuteronomy 17:2–7 as did using the name of the Lord in vain Leviticus 24:16 as was adultery Leviticus 20:10 as was not honoring mother or father Exodus 21:15. All the laws under God's mercy seat. God never separated the 4th commandment from the other 9 commandments- man did , not God. Do we deiced what has capital consequences or is that for God to decided. Ecc12:13-14 John12:48 James2:11-12 Rev11:18-19 God said not everyone who says Lord Lord will enter into heaven- that's up to God, not us.

tall73 said:

• the Jewish believers in Acts 21 kept being zealous for the whole law (we see this includes Pentecost for example in the case of Paul).
• The Gentile Christians were not required to be circumcised and keep the law of Moses.
• the OT context regarding the appointed times (Numbers 28,29 and Ezekiel 45, 46) included the weekly Sabbath
• the Sabbath is said to be a sign with Israel throughout their generations
• The Sabbath is said to point to their Redeemer from Egypt as well as their Creator
• Ezekiel 20 says that the Sabbath was a sign in addition to the laws by which one lives
• there is no record of anyone being commanded to keep the Sabbath, or observing the Sabbath until Exodus 16
• the Israelites themselves had to have the Sabbath explained to them in the second month after coming out of Egypt, which means various would-be Sabbaths passed by without it being explained.
• Romans 14 is broadly stated, regarding observing or not observing to the Lord.
• The law was not just the ten commandments, and Jesus refers to both commands from the ten, and those out of it in Matthew 5 when He says that the law will not pass away until all is fulfilled.
• Exodus was not quoting Genesis in regards to the Sabbath, and both were written after the command was given by God in Ex. 16, and spoken by God in Ex. 20 as Genesis and Exodus are one narrative, and relate that history, and the command for Moses to write in a book what He was told.
• When Romans 2 spoke of those who did not have the law having the law written on the heart it referred to following the conscience and what God revelaed about Himself in general revelation. They were not keeping Passover or the Sabbath , but they were able to know that God was the Creator, see His power, and knew that He required us not to steal, kill, etc. but to love Him and others.

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God Himself related the Sabbath when it was given as a sign, back to Creation, where He first made the Sabbath Exo20:11 before Jew, before Israel, just man and God. So to claim its not the same Sabbath would be teaching something different than what God said.

Exo 31:17 It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed.’ ”

Eze 20:12 Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the Lord who sanctifies them.
Eze 20:20 hallow My Sabbaths, and they will be a sign between Me and you, that you may know that I am the Lord your God.’

The New Covenant is still made with Israel, because it was never only meant to be literal- it represents sons and daughters of Christ Exo4:22 Hos11:1 that we are all part of through our faith

Jer 31: 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their [i]hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people

Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Just like we are to be part of God's Israel through faith, the sign between God and His people will never end. No one can sanctify themselves and why would we not want to have as sign that the only God who has the power to Create Exo20:11 and power to re-Create Eze20:12 is our God, as there are many gods of this world.

The Lord made clear the Gentiles are part of His covenant everyone who wants to join themselves to Him and serve Him and keeps His Sabbath and holds fast to His covenant, thus saith the Lord.


Isa 56:6 “Also the sons of the foreigner (Gentiles)
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant—

We have free will to teach as we wish, but we will all be accountable for our teachings one day soon Mat15:3-14 Mat5:19-30. There is a real spiritual war over our worship which is shown by which voice we listen to. God blessed and sanctified the Sabbath and made it holy not for Himself because He is holy, but to spend holy time with mankind. No one can take away the blessing God wants to give us Isa56:2 we can only forfeit our own.


Final atonement for our sins has not happened. Some people claim it will only be from the 9 commandment, but God personally numbered His commandments with Ten Deut4:13 Exo34:28 by design and started the commandment He knew everyone would forget with the word Remember- the one commandment He sanctified and blessed that points to He as our Creator Exo31:18 the only God we are called to worship Rev14:7

If we trust God what He wrote by Himself Exo31:18 His own commandments that belong to Him and no one else Exo20:6 that He said are Ten Deut4:13 all under His mercy seat, not nine of them Exo25:21 Rev15:5 Rev11:19 and trust that nine of them are for our own good, why not just have faith in all of them, that God wants to spend sacred time with His children to sanctify and bless us, because we can't transfer this to another day, we can't offer this ourselves, we need God. We have free will, my free will is to trust God that what He personally wrote and told us to keep if we love Him Exo20:6 that He is an unchanging God - to have faith in all of His holy and righteous commandments- that God does not make mistakes- we do by not fully trusting Him, but instead lean on what everyone else is doing that is popular that never came with God's blessings or sanctification, the commandments of men over the commandments of God Mark7:7-13 Mat15:3-14