Westminster Confession of faith section 19
19.1. God gave to Adam a law, as a covenant of works, by which he bound him and all his posterity to personal, entire, exact, and perpetual obedience; promised life upon the fulfilling, and threatened death upon the breach of it; and endued him with power and ability to keep it.
19.2. This law, after his Fall, continued to be a perfect rule of righteousness; and, as such, was delivered by God upon Mount Sinai in ten commandments, and written in two tables; the first four commandments containing our duty toward God, and the other six our duty to man.
19.3. Besides this law, commonly called moral, God was pleased to give to the people of Israel, as a Church under age, ceremonial laws
19.5. The moral law forever binds all, as well justified persons as others, to obedience to it; and that not only in regard of the matter contained in it, but also in respect of the authority of God the Creator who gave it. Neither does Christ in the gospel in any way dissolve, but much strengthen, this obligation.
19.7. Neither are the aforementioned uses of the law contrary to the grace of the gospel, but do sweetly comply with it:
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the same can be shown for the Baptist Confession of Faith section 19
and for D.L. Moody's sermon on the TEN Commandments
and for all references that apparently you have not read
Mark 7:7-13 is a case where Christ flatly condemns ignoring God's commandment and preferring traditions of man instead.
The "argument" that the 7th day Sabbath keepers of today have, with the group I list and keep reminding people of in this discussion, is not about Sabbath starting Eden , rather it is about the Mark 7 statement of Christ and whether or not a man made tradition can edit one of the commandments.
I’ve had several people that keep the sabbath argue that the sabbath is a moral commandment,
In fact almost all Christian denominations argue that all TEN of the TEN Commandments are included in the moral law of God
A sample of Christian denominations ( and Christian leaders) that affirms the continued *"unit of TEN" for Christians today
[*]The Baptist Confession of Faith section 19
[*]The Westminster Confession of Faith section 19
[*]Voddie Baucham
[*]C.H. Spurgeon
[*]D.L. Moody
[*]Dies Domini by Pope John Paul II
[*]D. James Kennedy
[*]R.C. Sproul
For Example
Westminster Confession of faith section 19
19.1.
God gave to Adam a law, as a covenant of works, by which he bound him and all his posterity to personal, entire, exact, and perpetual obedience; promised life upon the fulfilling, and threatened death upon the breach of it; and endued him with power and ability to keep it.
19.2.
This law, after his Fall,
continued to be a perfect rule of righteousness; and, as such, was delivered by God upon Mount Sinai
in ten commandments, and written in two tables;
the first four commandments containing our duty toward God, and
the other six our duty to man.
19.3.
Besides this law, commonly called moral, God was pleased to give to the people of Israel, as a Church under age,
ceremonial laws
19.5. The moral law forever binds all, as well justified persons as others, to obedience to it; and that not only in regard of the matter contained in it, but also in respect of the authority of God the Creator who gave it. Neither does Christ in the gospel in any way dissolve, but much strengthen, this obligation.
19.7. Neither are the aforementioned uses of the law contrary to the grace of the gospel, but do sweetly comply with it:
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the same can be shown for the Baptist Confession of Faith section 19
and for D.L. Moody's sermon on the TEN Commandments
and for all references that apparently you have not read
Mark 7:7-13 is a case where Christ flatly condemns ignoring God's commandment and preferring traditions of man instead.
The "argument" that the 7th day Sabbath keepers of today have, with the group I list and keep reminding people of in this discussion, is not about Sabbath starting Eden , rather it is about the
Mark 7 statement of Christ and
whether or not a man made tradition can edit one of the Commandments
No. You are yet to prove that. What all confessions of faith by major Christian groups agree on is that the Christian sabbath is the Lords day on Sunday
Ahhh there it is "The circle back"
Ignoring every point of agreement the confessions have with the Bible Sabbath groups, as if that entire detail "does not exist"... again
The 10 were not given until Moses.
ahh there it is again the SECOND "circle back". contradicting even the Sunday groups in their confession of faith where they affirm the TEN in EDEN
Providential law existed before Moses. You are yet to prove that anyone kept the sabbath before Moses.
there it is again the next "circle back". contradicting even the Sunday groups in their confession of faith where they affirm the TEN in EDEN, moral law applying to ALL mankind and still doing so to this very day
What point remains? You never had one to begin with.
Interesting that you pretend not to see these points each time they are posted
You sound like a broken record
indeed you do
And You are yet to prove that anyone kept the sabbath before Moses.
Your own Sunday groups already admit it for us... details you keep trying to forget...again,,,, and again
We’ve talked about the Westminster confession of faith
Consider trying not to contradict those confessions of faith as they affirm the TEN in Eden given for ALL MANKIND
all you have proven is that you agree with reformed theology.
No doubt I agree on the details I keep pointing out for you and you keep objecting even to Sunday affirming groups and their explicit statements affirming the TEN given to mankind (not just Jews) starting from Eden (not just at Sinai.
You keep asking for these same points to be reposted as if you had forgotten what you learned the first time they were posted.