First question to AI:
Using strict rules, “Is there any NT text that calls for weekly Sunday worship, or is the only explicit weekly pattern that of Sabbath preaching in Acts 18:4?”
(AI confirms that there is no command to observe week-day-1 as a day of worshiip/rest etc)
Second Question to AI
Using strict rules, Given that we see not one new testament text saying that Sunday is the Lord’s day and not one text saying that the New Testament church met very Sunday for communion or for worship and not one statement that the term Sabbath is applied to Sunday, how do we get to the point today where the common view is that the new testament says Sunday is the Lord's day, they met every Sunday for gospel preaching and worship. ?
- Conclusion
- 1 Corinthians 16:2 is not describing a Sunday worship gathering. It is Paul’s instruction for each believer to privately set aside money at home on the first day of the week, so that when he came, the collection would already be prepared.
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Q: is there a meeting described in 1 Cor 16 for week day 1
A: No
Q: So then it would be incorrect to list 1 Cor 16 as an example of gathering on the first day of the week for worship or to remember the resurrection
A: That’s correct — it would be
incorrect to use
1 Corinthians 16:2 as an example of believers gathering for worship or to commemorate the resurrection on the first day of the week.
Why?
- The Greek wording “par’ heautō” (translated “lay by him in store”) means each person privately, by himself, at home.
- Paul’s instruction was about setting aside money individually so that when he arrived, the collection would already be prepared.
- There is no mention of a worship service, communal gathering, or resurrection remembrance in this passage.
- “Lay by him in store” — The Greek phrase (par’ heautō) literally means “by himself” or “at home.”
- This suggests Paul was instructing each believer to set aside money privately, not to bring it to a public meeting.
- Purpose: Paul wanted the funds ready when he arrived, so there would be no need for hurried collections.
- Not a Worship Gathering: The verse does not describe a church service or communal worship on Sunday. It is about personal preparation for a future offering.
- Contrast with Acts 20:7: That passage does describe believers gathering on the first day of the week. But 1 Corinthians 16:2 is about individual action, not a meeting.
so then we have this response
interesting inference.
Not one text in the NT saying
"we meet every week day one"
"we now call week day one the Lord's day"
"we worship every week day one"
"we keep week day 1 holy, as the newly edited/revised Sabbath"
"we celebrate week day 1 in honor of the resurrection"
So IF your inference were correct that this is the the one and only text on that subject, one would expect actual teaching on that point to be stated. Or do you think they were trying to keep it a secret"
The Acts 20 statement says nothing about doing anything at all weekly.
Paul was not leaving "weekly" on the next day
And for this to be the one and only record of a weekly Sunday worship service, it is odd that even your long and detailed response dos not actually quote the full text.
Acts 2 is also not an example of a weekly week day 1 meeting. It is "Every day", and it is not a practice we see carried on
"every day" beyond Pentecost
no doubt nonBiblical traditions arise after the first century. (and of course there are number of Ignatius' letters that are now confirmed as fake. So sticking with actual scripture is probably a good idea.
I agree but that is not the view of the majority of the Christian church. Today the argument admits that no Bible text calls for Sunday observance , rather the Sabbath was edited in the first century to point to week day 1 even though every reference to Sabbath as a day of worship refers to Saturday
Indeed we often hear them say that sometime after the first century. But not one Bible text says it
that is interesting speculation given that all Christian confessions of faith affirm the continuation of the full list of TEN Commandments and commands like "do not take God's name in vain" are never doubted even though that commandment is not found in the NT
Positive but limited.
So then still no statement that they met for worship weekly on week day one.
Why not just come out and say it at least once, if in fact they actually did it?
No reason given for the suggestion that they ignored one of the commandments, so they just infer it into the text? really?
