The Sabbath, Worship and the End Time

Jan001 · Jan 20, 2026

SabbathBlessings said:
Because the Scriptures says the saints will be doing labors

Isa 65:21 They shall build houses and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and eat their fruit.

But on the Sabbath they will gather around Jesus for worship Isa66:23

It sounds like God is restoring things back to His perfect plan before sin hijacked this world. Work six days, keep the Sabbath day holy Gen2:1-3 Exo20:11 the same cycle He commanded us Exo20:8-11 because we are made in His image and likeness to follow Him

We should continually worship God everyday, but there is a difference between devotion and true worship. According to Jesus false worship is obeying our man-made traditions over obedience to the commandments of God. Mark7:7-13 Mar15:3-14 God’s says His saints are the ones who keep His commandments (His version) and have the faith of Jesus Rev14:12 which is how did Jesus live and what did He teach. Jesus kept the Sabbath Luke4:16 and taught to keep the commandments of God Mat5:19-30 Mark7:7-13 Mark-:3-14 Mat 19:17-19 John15:10 John14:15

I think you misinterpret Isaiah 66:23.

Jan001 · Jan 20, 2026

SabbathBlessings said:
You’re not interpreting Scripture from what I see is you’re adding to it.

The Didache is not Scripture.

This does not say day one, we would have to add that in the Text.

Do you not feel God is capable speaking for Himself? Did God make a mistake that somehow man has to correct to determine the day He claims as His, the only one in the entire Bible?

The seventh day is the Sabbath of THE LORD Exo20:10,
the Sabbath, My holy day, the holy day of THE LORD Isa58:13
Jesus is LORD OF the Sabbath, not any other day Mark2:28

This is not an interpretation it is God speaking plainly. I just believe Him, without having to add or edit His words. Because we are plainly told not to Pro30:5-6

Says no Scripture

Says no Scripture

Says no Scripture nor does Acts 8:3 say this

It’s amazing to me how one can think what they feel is the same as what the word of God says. We are told whoever we obey is who we serve. Rom6:16 So if we are removing God’s Word, than who are we really serving? People take this so lightly, but it’s really a serious issue. It’s basically saying what God says doesn’t matter. He is only good for His blessings, not His direction or Authority.

Like I stated before, you disregard all the Scriptures that do not fit your own personal interpretations. You believe in Scripture alone, but Scripture states that the Christian faith is based on the Bible and the word-of-mouth teachings of the apostles.

2 Thessalonians 2:13-15

SabbathBlessings · Jan 21, 2026

Jan001 said:
Like I stated before, you disregard all the Scriptures that do not fit your own personal interpretations. You believe in Scripture alone, but Scripture states that the Christian faith is based on the Bible and the word-of-mouth teachings of the apostles.

2 Thessalonians 2:13-15

You could provide Scripture for your statements.

Regarding the Scripture you posted from Paul regarding traditions, I do not think he had in mind undermining what Jesus said about traditions, when placing them above the commandments of God, its what Jesus Christ plainly condemned. Jesus used interchangeable the commandment of God with the word of God.

Mark 7:7 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men

9 He said to them, “All too well you [e]reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition.
13 making the word of God of no effect through your tradition which you have handed down.

The 4th commandment is a commandment of God, written by God Himself. Sunday-keeping is nothing more than mans traditions that competes with what God of the Bible said. I do not think Jesus could have made what the practice does more plain.

The apostles never taught against what Jesus taught, nor do they have more authority than Christ.

Col 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.

Only Christ can sanctify a day and can sanctify mankind - He connected both with the His Sabbath of the Lord. Gen2:3 Exo20:11 Eze20:11

SabbathBlessings · Jan 21, 2026

Jan001 said:
And on the Sabbath day we went outside the gate to a riverside, where we were thinking that there was a place of prayer; and we sat down and began speaking to the women who had assembled.

This was a place of prayer. This was not a synagogue or the temple.

Yes, which is exactly what I said.

Jan001 said:
MOUNCE
16 Now as we were going to the place of prayer, a slave girl who had a spirit of divination, met us. She brought great profit to her masters by fortune-telling.

Was Paul still keeping the Sabbath? I don't think so.

Luke said he was. No reason not beleive God's Word. They were gathering to worship God on the Sabbath.

Acts 13:13 And on the Sabbath day we went outside the gate to a riverside, where we were thinking that there was a place of prayer; and we sat down and began speaking to the women who had assembled.
14 A woman named Lydia (Gentile) was listening; she was a seller of purple fabrics from the city of Thyatira, and a worshiper of God. [a]The Lord opened her heart to respond to the things spoken by Paul.

Jan001 said:
In 1 AD, Jews were permitted to travel a maximum distance of 2,000 cubits on the Sabbath, a limit established by rabbinic tradition rather than direct biblical command. This distance is commonly understood as approximately 0.6 miles (about 1 kilometer or 1,000 yards).

While the exact distance to a specific city gate (such as Damascus Gate or Lions’ Gate) may vary slightly depending on the route, the general proximity remains around 2.5 to 3 miles from central Jerusalem.

Paul was on a mission trip setting up churches and still kept the Sabbath even when there was no synagogue built.

Your reference is not Scripture. There is no rule about how far one can travel on the Sabbath in God's Word. This is an example of the made up rules Jesus was constantly correcting with the Pharisees.

Jan001 · Thursday at 6:06 AM

SabbathBlessings said:
You could provide Scripture for your statements.

Regarding the Scripture you posted from Paul regarding traditions, I do not think he had in mind undermining what Jesus said about traditions, when placing them above the commandments of God, its what Jesus Christ plainly condemned. Jesus used interchangeable the commandment of God with the word of God.

Mark 7:7 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men

9 He said to them, “All too well you [e]reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition.
13 making the word of God of no effect through your tradition which you have handed down.

We know that the early Christians publicly worshiped Jesus Christ on Sunday, the first day of the week, instead of on Saturday because Jesus Christ commanded them to do this. No one can change this historical fact.

SabbathBlessings said:
The 4th commandment is a commandment of God, written by God Himself. Sunday-keeping is nothing more than mans traditions that competes with what God of the Bible said. I do not think Jesus could have made what the practice does more plain.

The apostles never taught against what Jesus taught, nor do they have more authority than Christ.

Col 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.

Only Christ can sanctify a day and can sanctify mankind - He connected both with the His Sabbath of the Lord. Gen2:3 Exo20:11 Eze20:11

Jesus Christ sanctified Sunday to be the day for Christian public worship.
He connected Sunday to his New Covenant Melchizedekian priesthood rather than to the Saturday of the first covenant's Aaronic priesthood.

First Covenant:

Priests were exclusively from the lineage of Aaron, Moses’ brother, and held the exclusive right to perform sacrifices, enter the Holy Place, and offer incense at the altar. They were responsible for mediating between God and the people, teaching the Law, and pronouncing blessings (e.g., the Aaronic Blessing in Numbers 6:22–27). Their role was strictly hereditary and centered on sacrificial worship. (AI)

Jesus Christ was from the tribe of Judah, not from the tribe of Aaron (Levite). We know that Jesus' priesthood is from the line of Melchizedek.

Hebrews 7:11-23
If perfection was therefore achieved through the Levitical priesthood, on the basis of which the Law was given to the people, what need would there have been for another priest to arise according to the order of Melchizedek rather than one according to the order of Aaron? 12 For when there is any change in the priesthood, there must also be a change in the Law.
13 Now the one about whom these things were said belonged to a different tribe, from which no one has ever served at the altar. 14 For it is clear that our Lord was descended from Judah, a tribe about which Moses said nothing in regard to priests.
15 This becomes even more obvious now that another priest has arisen, one like Melchizedek, 16 who was one not through a legal requirement concerning physical descent, but by the power of an indestructible life.
17 For it is attested of him:
“You are a priest forever,
according to the order of Melchizedek.”
18 The earlier commandment is abrogated because of its weakness and ineffectiveness, 19 since the Law brought nothing to perfection. On the other hand, a better hope is introduced through which we draw nearer to God.

20 This was confirmed by an oath. When others became priests, no oath was required, 21 but this one became a priest with the swearing of an oath by the one who said to him,

“The Lord has sworn, and he will not repent:
‘You are a priest forever.’ ”
22 Accordingly, Jesus has also become the guarantee of a better covenant.

23 Furthermore, the former priests were many in number, because they were prevented by death from remaining in office. 24 However, Jesus holds a perpetual priesthood because he remains forever. 25 Therefore, he has the full power to save those who approach God through him, since he lives forever to intercede for them.

The Aaronic priests offered countless animal sacrifices to God. Jesus Christ, Melchizedekian high priest, offered himself once for all time as a sacrifice to God.

Everything associated with the Aaronic first covenant's animal sacrificial religious system was made obsolete by Jesus Christ's New Covenant sacrificial worship system. Hebrews 8:13

Hebrews 7:12
For when there is any change in the priesthood, there must also be a change in the Law.

Jesus Christ commanded and still commands that Sunday be his day.

Revelation 1:10
On the Lord’s day, I was caught up in the spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice, like the sound of a trumpet, (Mark 16:9, Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2)

Jan001 · Thursday at 6:10 AM

SabbathBlessings said:
Yes, which is exactly what I said.

Luke said he was. No reason not beleive God's Word. They were gathering to worship God on the Sabbath.

Acts 13:13 And on the Sabbath day we went outside the gate to a riverside, where we were thinking that there was a place of prayer; and we sat down and began speaking to the women who had assembled.
14 A woman named Lydia (Gentile) was listening; she was a seller of purple fabrics from the city of Thyatira, and a worshiper of God. [a]The Lord opened her heart to respond to the things spoken by Paul.

Paul was on a mission trip setting up churches and still kept the Sabbath even when there was no synagogue built.

Your reference is not Scripture. There is no rule about how far one can travel on the Sabbath in God's Word. This is an example of the made up rules Jesus was constantly correcting with the Pharisees.

You can think whatever you want.

SabbathBlessings · Thursday at 6:16 AM

Jan001 said:
We know that the early Christians publicly worshiped Jesus Christ on Sunday, the first day of the week, instead of on Saturday because Jesus Christ commanded them to do this. No one can change this historical fact.

We should worship Jesus 24/7/365 but Jesus did not say we no longer keep the 4th commandment the one commandment I said to Remember and now instead we keep Sunday holy. Please let’s not speak for Christ, He asks us not to.

Jan001 said:
Jesus Christ sanctified Sunday to be the day for Christian public worship.
He connected Sunday to his New Covenant Melchizedekian priesthood rather than to the Saturday of the first covenant's Aaronic priesthood.

First Covenant:
Priests were exclusively from the lineage of Aaron, Moses’ brother, and held the exclusive right to perform sacrifices, enter the Holy Place, and offer incense at the altar. They were responsible for mediating between God and the people, teaching the Law, and pronouncing blessings (e.g., the Aaronic Blessing in Numbers 6:22–27). Their role was strictly hereditary and centered on sacrificial worship. (AI)

Jesus Christ was from the tribe of Judah, not from the tribe of Aaron (Levite). We know that Jesus' priesthood is from the line of Melchizedek.

Hebrews 7:11-23
If perfection was therefore achieved through the Levitical priesthood, on the basis of which the Law was given to the people, what need would there have been for another priest to arise according to the order of Melchizedek rather than one according to the order of Aaron? 12 For when there is any change in the priesthood, there must also be a change in the Law.
13 Now the one about whom these things were said belonged to a different tribe, from which no one has ever served at the altar. 14 For it is clear that our Lord was descended from Judah, a tribe about which Moses said nothing in regard to priests.
15 This becomes even more obvious now that another priest has arisen, one like Melchizedek, 16 who was one not through a legal requirement concerning physical descent, but by the power of an indestructible life.
17 For it is attested of him:
“You are a priest forever,
according to the order of Melchizedek.”
18 The earlier commandment is abrogated because of its weakness and ineffectiveness, 19 since the Law brought nothing to perfection. On the other hand, a better hope is introduced through which we draw nearer to God.

20 This was confirmed by an oath. When others became priests, no oath was required, 21 but this one became a priest with the swearing of an oath by the one who said to him,

“The Lord has sworn, and he will not repent:
‘You are a priest forever.’ ”
22 Accordingly, Jesus has also become the guarantee of a better covenant.

23 Furthermore, the former priests were many in number, because they were prevented by death from remaining in office. 24 However, Jesus holds a perpetual priesthood because he remains forever. 25 Therefore, he has the full power to save those who approach God through him, since he lives forever to intercede for them.

The Aaronic priests offered countless animal sacrifices to God. Jesus Christ, Melchizedekian high priest, offered himself once for all time as a sacrifice to God.

Everything associated with the Aaronic first covenant's animal sacrificial religious system was made obsolete by Jesus Christ's New Covenant sacrificial worship system. Hebrews 8:13

Hebrews 7:12
For when there is any change in the priesthood, there must also be a change in the Law.

Jesus Christ commanded and still commands that Sunday be his day.

None of these Scriptures says Jesus sactified Sunday. I really believe we should not add what's not there, our words are not sanctifying only His words are John17:17 . The law that changed in Hebrews 7 was the priesthood and it states plainly, if we allow the Bible to interpret the Bible. The law said the priesthood had to come from the tribe of Levi, but Jesus came from Judah, so that law had to change in order for Jesus to be our High Priest. There is nothing in Hebrews 7 about the Sabbath being changed, The Sabbath is not even mentioned in that entire chapter.

Heb7:12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. 13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has [b]officiated at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning [c]priesthood.

Jan001 said:
Revelation 1:10
On the Lord’s day, I was caught up in the spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice, like the sound of a trumpet, (Mark 16:9, Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2)

What did God claim in His own words is His holy day, the holy day of the Lord. Verse please? Do you feel God, who made everything, is incapable of speaking for Himself? That we have to speak for Him and really speak over Him since He did speak on this matter and plainly wrote out His will. Exo20:10-11 Isa 58:13 Is that not what the other spirit did and as we are warned Isa8:20 Pro30:5-6

Your references do not say anything about Sunday being God’s new holy day, or the Lords Day, God already spoke on this matter plainly Exo20:10 Isa 58:13 Mark2:28 I am sticking to what He said.

Jan001 · Thursday at 11:17 AM

SabbathBlessings said:
We should worship Jesus 24/7/365 but Jesus did not say we no longer keep the 4th commandment the one commandment I said to Remember and now instead we keep Sunday holy. Please let’s not speak for Christ, He asks us not to.

None of these Scriptures says Jesus sactified Sunday. I really believe we should not add what's not there, our words are not sanctifying only His words are John17:17 . The law that changed in Hebrews 7 was the priesthood and it states plainly, if we allow the Bible to interpret the Bible. The law said the priesthood had to come from the tribe of Levi, but Jesus came from Judah, so that law had to change in order for Jesus to be our High Priest. There is nothing in Hebrews 7 about the Sabbath being changed, The Sabbath is not even mentioned in that entire chapter.

Heb7:12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. 13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has [b]officiated at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning [c]priesthood.

What did God claim in His own words is His holy day, the holy day of the Lord. Verse please? Do you feel God, who made everything, is incapable of speaking for Himself? That we have to speak for Him and really speak over Him since He did speak on this matter and plainly wrote out His will. Exo20:10-11 Isa 58:13 Is that not what the other spirit did and as we are warned Isa8:20 Pro30:5-6

Your references do not say anything about Sunday being God’s new holy day, or the Lords Day, God already spoke on this matter plainly Exo20:10 Isa 58:13 Mark2:28 I am sticking to what He said.

Jesus Christ made his Sunday worship commandment by his own word of mouth after his own resurrection from the dead. His apostles then taught his disciples what he commanded. Historical documents attest to this fact.

It would be good to stop ignoring the following Scripture commandment:

2 Thessalonians 2:15
Therefore, stand firm, brethren, and hold fast to the traditions that you have been taught, whether by word of mouth or by a letter of ours.

Every Christian in the first century AD learned by word of mouth that Christians publicly worshiped God on Sunday instead of on Saturday.

"Scripture alone" is not a commandment from God. Scripture alone is refuted by Scripture, as I have shown above. "Scripture alone" is your own man-made commandment.

John 21:25
But there are also many other things that Jesus did; and if every one of them was recorded, I do not think the world itself could contain the books that would be written.

It really doesn't make any sense for me to continue our discussion. I won't be changing my beliefs on this topic.

BNR32FAN · Thursday at 11:56 AM

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
As I have said numerous times now, Shabbat was NOT created at Sinai. This fact is irrefutable.

When the sabbath was created is completely irrelevant. My daughter’s car was made in 2009 but it didn’t benefit her very much until I gave it to her last year. Do you formulate doctrines based on no evidence in scripture against them or do you formulate doctrines based on evidence to support them?

BNR32FAN · Thursday at 11:59 AM

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
No they are not lol! The Galatians were PAGANS before they became Christians. None of them would be following the Torah...UNLESS they were converts to Judaism...and THAT is NOT the context of that passage...

Are you kidding me right now or do you really not know what the ENTIRE BOOK OF GALATIANS IS ABOUT? Because the ENTIRE BOOK is about ONE SPECIFIC TOPIC. Do you know what that topic is? Can you tells us what that topic is?

BNR32FAN · Thursday at 12:05 PM

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
I stand by my statements in context for that section. The other sections deal with those who converted or were in the process of conversion to Judaism.

So then you agree that Paul is rebuking them for trying to be justified by OBEDIENCE TO THE LAW, correct? I mean in the context of the entire book. Nowhere in the entire book does he ever rebuke them for practicing idolatry. If they are Christians practicing idolatry Paul would be OBLIGATED TO REBUKE THEM IN THIS LETTER. So where does he do that?

BNR32FAN · Thursday at 12:10 PM

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
There are many examples. Examples include God's judgment on the world before Noah, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and Pharaoh's defeat, all predating the Exodus and Sinai covenant. Sin WAS judged from Adam onward long before Sinai...

Inbreeding resulted in punishment by God for Lot’s two daughters, and Reuben and Bilhah so should we conclude that the same was for Adam & Eve’s children or Noah and his family?

BNR32FAN · Thursday at 12:59 PM

Hentenza said:
Actually verse 16 tells you who Jesus is referring to.

“then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24‬:‭16‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Matthew 24:16 (NASB2020) - then those who are in Judea must fl | YouVersion

then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.

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Jesus is sitting on the mount of olives overlooking Jerusalem and the temple. The temple is in Judea. The Jews are in Judea. Even the converted Jews that still keep the law are in Judea (Acts 21). So all Jesus is saying is that if the abomination of desolation happens in winter then people will freeze because is really cold and He told them not to even go back for their cloaks and if it happens on a sabbath then they will have to break the law by traveling beyond the permitted distance so ether way they are in dire straights. The abomination of desolation is a terrible thing that anyone should be in a hurry to get away from.

“Moreover, pray that when you flee, it will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24‬:‭20‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Matthew 24:20 (NASB2020) - Moreover, pray that when you flee, | YouVersion

Moreover, pray that when you flee, it will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath.

bible.com

This is not a verse that supports the continual observance of the Jewish sabbath but exactly the opposite. What the sabbatarians do not realize (or just ignore) is that either way the sabbath celebrated in the temple is over when it was destroyed in 70ad which Jesus prophesied in verse 2.

Oh no that was just me being silly, that wasn’t my actual interpretation of the passage. That was me using Sabbathblessing’s method of interpretation by ignoring how it is specifically worded in the passage and just jumbling around the words to create an interpretation that doesn’t line up with what is being said in the passage. Basically the exact same way she interprets Colossians 2:16.

Studyman · Thursday at 1:32 PM

BNR32FAN said:
When the sabbath was created is completely irrelevant.

Didn't Paul teach us that the Holy Scriptures, as they existed in his time, were trustworthy "for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works." Didn't the Word of God who was with God and was God command Abraham to "Be Perfect"? And didn't this same Word of God after becoming flesh and blood and dwelled among men, teach the same Words to me that HE spoke to Abraham who saw His Day and was glad?

Didn't the Jesus of the Bible teach, "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God."? Wasn't HE the VERY Word of God that Inspired His Words to be written ""for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."?

Isn't this same Jesus the same Word of God who became flesh, that " blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made"?

How is it then, that there are men who come in Christ's Name, who judge some of His Words as "completely irrelevant"?

And wouldn't the Christ know, when HE created, sanctified and made His Sabbath Holy, what day HE would rise from the dead?

Men are free to believe as they please, but it seems unwise to judge God's Word in such a way, when HE specifically addressed, sanctified and separated the day HE Esteemed above the others days, of a 7 day week HE had just created, and Inspired it to written specifically for me, "for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness".

All this begs the question, "who should we listen to", given the context of the rest of the Holy Scriptures?

BNR32FAN said:
My daughter’s car was made in 2009 but it didn’t benefit her very much until I gave it to her last year. Do you formulate doctrines based on no evidence in scripture against them or do you formulate doctrines based on evidence to support them?

I would agree with this analogy. The Word of God wouldn't be very beneficial, it seems, to a person who didn't have it, nor would it be profitable for those who had them but didn't believe enough to Live by them.

Interesting discussion.

Yeshua HaDerekh · Thursday at 4:32 PM

BNR32FAN said:
When the sabbath was created is completely irrelevant. My daughter’s car was made in 2009 but it didn’t benefit her very much until I gave it to her last year. Do you formulate doctrines based on no evidence in scripture against them or do you formulate doctrines based on evidence to support them?

You are a broken record. AGAIN, what you said was meaningless. Shabbat was NOT created at Sinai...fact. It was given to Israel at Sinai as a SIGN. None of this is even debatable and I will not debate it.

Yeshua HaDerekh · Thursday at 4:35 PM

BNR32FAN said:
Inbreeding resulted in punishment by God for Lot’s two daughters, and Reuben and Bilhah so should we conclude that the same was for Adam & Eve’s children or Noah and his family?

You just proved my point! lol

Yeshua HaDerekh · Thursday at 4:36 PM

BNR32FAN said:
So then you agree that Paul is rebuking them for trying to be justified by OBEDIENCE TO THE LAW, correct? I mean in the context of the entire book. Nowhere in the entire book does he ever rebuke them for practicing idolatry. If they are Christians practicing idolatry Paul would be OBLIGATED TO REBUKE THEM IN THIS LETTER. So where does he do that?

In one part yes...in the other no.

Yeshua HaDerekh · Thursday at 4:40 PM

BNR32FAN said:
Are you kidding me right now or do you really not know what the ENTIRE BOOK OF GALATIANS IS ABOUT? Because the ENTIRE BOOK is about ONE SPECIFIC TOPIC. Do you know what that topic is? Can you tells us what that topic is?

No it isn't and yes I know it VERY well. SOME Galatians still pagans while others were Jewish converts (Ger tzadik) or becoming converts (Ger Toshav) while others were pagan and accepted Christianity, but some were reverting back to their past pagan practices.

SabbathBlessings · Thursday at 4:57 PM

Jan001 said:
Jesus Christ made his Sunday worship commandment by his own word of mouth after his own resurrection from the dead. His apostles then taught his disciples what he commanded. Historical documents attest to this fact.

It would be good to stop ignoring the following Scripture commandment:

2 Thessalonians 2:15
Therefore, stand firm, brethren, and hold fast to the traditions that you have been taught, whether by word of mouth or by a letter of ours.

This is Paul speaking, not God. While Paul was an inspired apostle of God, he is not God. God already spoke His will plainly and wrote it out- do you not believe God is capable of speaking for Himself? The Creator of everything Exo20:11 Rev14:7

2Thes2:15 Therefore, stand firm, brethren, and hold fast to the traditions that you have been taught, whether by word of mouth or by a letter of ours.

The word first day or sunday is not in this Text at all. The only way to make your statement is by adding to God’s holy word. If you can’t see this than we cannot reason togerther. God told us not to add anything to His word- if thats what Paul meant, he would have stated it. But than he would have contradict Jesus Christ plain teachings Mat15:3-14 Mark7:7-13 and himself Col2:8 1Cor7:19 hence the stern warning we have about Paul and twisting things that are clearly not in the Text.

Hentenza · Thursday at 6:56 PM

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
You are a broken record. AGAIN, what you said was meaningless. Shabbat was NOT created at Sinai...fact. It was given to Israel at Sinai as a SIGN. None of this is even debatable and I will not debate it.

You won’t debate it because you can’t prove it. The Jewish sabbath was created at Mt. Sinai. No one kept the sabbath until then.

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