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It seems you will go to any extent to try to nullify what scripture plainly states.
No, SB I don't post every day, but when I do post my posts certainly are not in agreement with those that are trying to put us under a defunct covenant that was given to only one nation that ended at Calvary.
You never replied to my post. Do you concede that the commandment to observe the sabbath nor any expectation whatsoever of keeping it was mentioned before exodus yet we do see such expectations for the other 9 commandments of the Decalogue?
Hi BNR, are you confusing me with another poster? I know the Sabbath was never mentioned until the Israelites crossed over the Red Sea. The Genesis account of God resting does not indicate that any succeeding cycle occurred. Anyone who differs from that position is trying to add to scripture.
IF God tells you to break the Sabbath, then it is ok to break the Sabbath. God waited until he was ready to reveal to Israel which day should be kept as a Sabbath. Just like the priests are allowed to profane the Sabbath because someone has to do the work. If God says you can break the Sabbath you can break it because there will be a reason to break it. Israel had been in slavery for hundreds of years and had lost all knowledge of keeping the Sabbath so God chose the right moment to reveal it to them. In 1974 my family were Sabbath keepers and one Friday afternoon the heifer broke out of the enclosure and disappeared, and my dad and my brother and I had to pursue it. It wasn't until daylight the following Sunday that we tracked it down and brought it home safely. We knew instinctively that it was ok to "profane" the Sabbath because God had made exceptions for emergencies involving our domesticated animals. But pursuing your own pleasures on the Sabbath is forbidden. The eight days of marching around Jericho was commanded by God himself, so it overrode the no-work command for that Sabbath.
Happy Sabbath to you my friend. I am relearning the Sabbath after I drifted away from Sabbath keeping in the 80s. I sometimes still observe it when one of my alters takes over but today I am in Sabbath mode.Excellent! Happy Sabbath my friend.
Yeah sorry I meant to reply to Bob Ryan I got my Bobs mixed up. Sorry bout that brother.
I thought about searching for evidence about that kind of argument but if they have no problem rejecting Nehemiah 9:13-14 and Ezekiel 20 then they’ll reject any passage of scripture you present.
I do not believe this is an accurate statement as I know I have never rejected Nehemiah or Ezekiel, I believe you are building your own theology based on Neh 9:14 instead of Exo20:11 and as if Exo16 is a different seventh day Sabbath
For those who have not read Gen 2:2-3 and Ex 20:11 that says Gen 2 is the starting point for the Sabbath, the idea above might work for a minute or two.
Ex 20:11 says it is sufficient to establish the origin of the Sabbath, ( for those willing to accept the word of God (over pure speculation)
Bible fact??, or pure speculation. Bob, your church calls all other churches apostate, yet you keep using us apostates to make your point. Will you use just one example of one apostate church out of "almost all" of them that tells us the ten commandments originated in Eden?
If Abraham had the Ten Commandments that were given to Israel at Sinai, then he sinned by taking Hagar and all of his concubines and producing children by them..
The Sabbath was a perpetual COVENANT?????
Yes, to other Jews
Where did Jesus prophesy the Sabbath would be kept at the end of time?
Where do I find scripture that indicates His pointed back to the Sabbath from Heaven?
There is no indication that the Apostles taught Gentiles Sabbath keeping. That is merely an assumption.
We agree on that point.
Evidence Jews were observing it in Israel. Scripture does not indicate any other nation was observing it.
Please show us where the scripture is that is taken out of context.
Who ever is doing that needs to learn the real truth. We are not directed to observe days in the New, and better, Covenant.
The plan of salvation doesn't change. God has used different ways to help mankind to come to Him.
His body was in the tomb. He resurrected in the first day. If you mean the initial rest in Genesis then this was not taught until Moses wrote the Torah in the 15th century BCE.
What commandments?
To whom did He give the commandments?
For Israel not for the church.
He is the only one that kept the law perfectly so He did. Then He became the permanent, for ever, rest for the Christian.
Did He? When does the new covenant end?
In the tomb. His body was dead but His spirit went places and not to the synagogue.
In your interpretation.
And then He destroyed the temple and left the Jewish land desolate. First, Paul is clear about why he went to the temple on the sabbath which is the same reason why the apostles did. Secondly the converted Jews still considered not following the law to be a capital offense. Third, the apostles that planted churches in gentile lands did not teach the law but instead taught that the sabbath was an option not a requirement.
The first instance of the word “sabbath” is in Exodus 16 and there is no instance or example of anyone keeping it prior to Moses.
You mean the ones that you use? Context includes historical, cultural, situational and physical which you and your buddies here seem to ignore.
Since the 4th commandment is not part of the new covenant and since Jesus became our rest then the Christian celebrates Jesus resurrection instead.
God has every right and power to terminate one covenant and issue another. He has the right and power to require different terms for the New Covenant.
