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Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath
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The goal post moved once again.
No one said anything about Jesus is not Lord of the Sabbath, you added He “became” the Lord of The Sabbath and you know thats what this is about, which implies He was created, when He is taking ownership of when man was made (at Creation Gen1:26) and when the Sabbath was made (at Creation Exo20:11 Gen2:1-3) that He is Lord of because He is our Creator and what the Sabbath points to Exo20:11. Our Creator, Jesus only spoke of continuation of the Sabbath Mat24:20 Isa66:22-23 and we are told not to add our words to His.
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Goal posts are the same. Either Jesus is the Lord of the sabbath or He is not.
You did.
Because He was not a man before and the sabbath was made for man.
No. Jesus became man. He has always been God.
Yep.
Which no one knew about until Moses.
Again, which no one knew about Exodus until Moses.
No. He is the Lord of the Sabbath and our Christian rest.
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your distance from detail again. You are the one that posted that Christ "BECAME" the Lord of the Sabbath in Mark 2 even though you were shown repeatedly that Heb 8 teaches that Christ was God writing the TEN at Sinai... place the Sabbath in stone with His own finger.
read more. AT the very least go read it after it has been pointed out for you a few times on the thread.
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Another false accusation you made about me that you can’t prove. Show one post where I said Jesus is not Lord of the Sabbath.
Jesus is fully God, never “became” Lord of the Sabbath, your words that you added to His words when we are plainly told not to.
We are accountable for our false testimonies against others.
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There’s no point, it’s best to move on. There is no reasoning here. Something that will get sorted out in God’s time.
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13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
No of course, he fulfilled it by dying. Which was the terms of the contract in the old covenant.
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The first Covenant Gen 2 is "obey and Live". Gal 3 confirms this.
Adam and Eve sinned so at that very moment the New Covenant , grace became the rule, else they would have died then and there.
Christ did not "fulfill the command to not take God's name in vain by dying". Dying is not fulfilling moral law, rather it is paying the debt owed for violation of moral law.
The contract broken, called for death.
Even so, it is still a sin to take God's name in vain.
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I’ve read what you have posted and replied to each one as opposed to you that only reply to some of my post but not the parts that are hard for you. Legalism is illogical.
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Where in my post did I accused you of that?
No. You missed the whole incarnation thing about Jesus didn’t you? Jesus is in fact fully God and now is also fully man. He was not man before the incarnation so the sabbath was made for man and He became one and the only one that ever kept it perfectly. He fulfilled (completed) the law including the sabbath. Legalism is illogical and unscriptural.
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Well, he was condemned to work by the sweat of his brow, effectively missing out on God’s rest.
3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
The covenant with Abraham had two parties, God and man. By becoming man and dying the death, the covenant is done away with completely because God no longer remains a party.
7So I became the shepherd of the flock doomed to be slaughtered by the sheep traders. And I took two staffs, one I named Favor, the other I named Union. And I tended the sheep. 8In one month I destroyed the three shepherds. But I became impatient with them, and they also detested me. 9So I said, “I will not be your shepherd. What is to die, let it die. What is to be destroyed, let it be destroyed. And let those who are left devour the flesh of one another.” 10And I took my staff Favor, and I broke it, annulling the covenant that I had made with all the peoples. 11So it was annulled on that day, and the sheep traders, who were watching me, knew that it was the word of the LORD. 12Then I said to them, “If it seems good to you, give me my wages; but if not, keep them.” And they weighed out as my wages thirty pieces of silver. 13Then the LORD said to me, “Throw it to the potter”—the lordly price at which I was priced by them. So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them into the house of the LORD, to the potter. 14Then I broke my second staff Union, annulling the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.
There remains then a Sabbath.
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It doesn’t say Jesus is not Lord of the Sabbath what you accused me of. Jesus also never said He “became” Lord of the Sabbath something you did add to God’s Words when we are plainly told not to.
Obeying God will never be legalistic, legalistic is when we take our own rules and traditions and pretend their God’s when they are not. Something Jesus condemns Mat15:3-14 Mark7:7-13. Jesus said If you love Me, keep My commandments John14:15 Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy Exo20:11, forgetting is not what God asks, it’s another voice, not God’s.
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Been through this already. Go back and read my posts.
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No I don't believe that, I believe some have ignored the scriptures I referred to, which support my argument
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