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.....How about they focus on a different coin-related matter pertaining to Trump that actually has some issues and take a run at his family's crypto-currency scheme......
Hopefully we'll get a D house in a year and they can fire that up.
 
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Hopefully we'll get a D house in a year and they can fire that up.
What's stopping them from doing it now?

There was a D-House during the 116th congress, all they managed to muster up was a weak impeachment attempt and a fixation on some Stormy Daniels nonsense.

Are you predicting that the Democratic newcomer candidates that are running will have a higher level of competence and expertise in the areas that matter to be able to dissect a crypto schemes in a way that will resonate and "stick"?
 
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What's stopping them from doing it now?

There was a D-House during the 116th congress, all they managed to muster up was a weak impeachment attempt and a fixation on some Stormy Daniels nonsense.

Are you predicting that the Democratic newcomer candidates that are running will have a higher level of competence and expertise in the areas that matter to be able to dissect a crypto schemes in a way that will resonate and "stick"?
They are the minority and dont set any committee agendas. Cant subpoena. Etc Etc..

Basically they cant use any of the investigative power of the institution.
 
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They are the minority and dont set any committee agendas. Cant subpoena. Etc Etc..

Basically they cant use any of the investigative power of the institution.
Right, but when they did have that power the last time, they flubbed it.

So my question remains, what will be different about the 120th congress compared to the 116th congress?
 
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Right, but when they did have that power the last time, they flubbed it.

So my question remains, what will be different about the 120th congress compared to the 116th congress?
You tell me. You're the one who proposed the D's should look into this. And the House of Representatives is the best toolkit they could ask for.
 
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You tell me. You're the one who proposed the D's should look into this. And the House of Representatives is the best toolkit they could ask for.

For starters, they'd have to run some more analytical candidates instead of ones that appeal purely to emotion.

Generic platitudes and catch phrases about "The Trump family is abusing power to enrich themselves" (without being able to explain in detail how that's being done) isn't going to cut it - as evidenced by the current lot of Democratic house reps shouting it in unison, and over half of the country not really caring.

Now, perhaps that could change with the 120th upcoming congress, they seem to be running some younger and fresher candidates who may be more familiar with the subject matter. But as it currently stands...

A house rep in their upper 50's and 60's shouting about Trump's crypto scheme isn't going to carry much weight when it becomes clear that the extent of their knowledge on the subject is "I heard my grandkids talking about it, that's the one that has the Doge Dog on the picture right?"
 
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For starters, they'd have to run some more analytical candidates instead of ones that appeal purely to emotion.

Generic platitudes and catch phrases about "The Trump family is abusing power to enrich themselves" (without being able to explain in detail how that's being done) isn't going to cut it - as evidenced by the current lot of Democratic house reps shouting it in unison, and over half of the country not really caring.

Now, perhaps that could change with the 120th upcoming congress, they seem to be running some younger and fresher candidates who may be more familiar with the subject matter. But as it currently stands...

A house rep in their upper 50's and 60's shouting about Trump's crypto scheme isn't going to carry much weight when it becomes clear that the extent of their knowledge on the subject is "I heard my grandkids talking about it, that's the one that has the Doge Dog on the picture right?"
A house majority is a big tent almost by definition. There's plenty of reps already in place who could manage this.

Ultimately tho, short of impeachment, the house itself doesnt seem to have much authority, Theres no law enforcement capacity - even if it creates new laws. And impeachment conviction requires a sympathetic senate. Probably the best they could do at the fed level is bring things to light via subpoena power - which is certainly better than nothing, but insufficient for results in an environment where enough voters would let anything slide.

Its the state level where the action could happen. And thats where they really blew it last time by not, essentially, conspiring across borders to lead with the most damning cases rather than the weak sauce charges they got. Do we really want a such a top down D party tho? Or even one where subservience and discipline is just habitual? Thats a 2 edged sword.

(Oh and go easy on us old folks! We're easily bamboozled by cute dogs and so on.)
 
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Its the state level where the action could happen. And thats where they really blew it last time by not, essentially, conspiring across borders to lead with the most damning cases rather than the weak sauce charge they got. Do we really want a such a top down D party tho? Or even one where subservience and discipline is just habitual? Thats a 2 edged sword.
If you want to fight against a top-down GOP, it'll be hard to do that without a top-down DNC.
(Oh and go easy on us old folks! We're easily bamboozled by cute dogs and so on.)
lol, I mean, in a different time and under a different set of circumstances, perhaps more age would be better.

But we're approaching a time where two hot topics are going to be
1) Crypto-related matters
2) Artificial intelligence

And I'm thinking that in the next 3-5 years #2 will be THE paramount topic, and I don't think I'm saying anything controversial by suggesting that the "tech stuff" (especially new tech stuff) is more of a young man's game that younger people are going to be more familiar with as a general rule.

Same goes for the Senate, they have even a worse aging problem in the upper house.

I just don't think that crypto and AI are going to be effectively evaluated & regulated by a group of people who are in the age demographic that they often need to get a niece or grandson to help them figure out how to connect to their printer.
 
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If you want to fight against a top-down GOP, it'll be hard to do that without a top-down DNC.

lol, I mean, in a different time and under a different set of circumstances, perhaps more age would be better.
Sadly probably true. Just like the Ds need to be competitive with gerrymandering even though they would abolish everywhere if they had their way. You have to play the game youre in and not some other ideal one.

But we're approaching a time where two hot topics are going to be
1) Crypto-related matters
2) Artificial intelligence

And I'm thinking that in the next 3-5 years #2 will be THE paramount topic, and I don't think I'm saying anything controversial by suggesting that the "tech stuff" (especially new tech stuff) is more of a young man's game that younger people are going to be more familiar with as a general rule.
Yep. Its number one (of the obviously foreseeable issues). Funny tho how even among people most connected to the industry there's nothing like consensus about what its all going to mean. "Very serious" people see everything from heaven on earth to total human extinction.

Same goes for the Senate, they have even a worse aging problem in the upper house.

I just don't think that crypto and AI are going to be effectively evaluated & regulated by a group of people who are in the age demographic that they often need to get a niece or grandson to help them figure out how to connect to their printer.
The young person advantage is less profound as every year passes. Soon even "old" folks will have come up in the digital/mobile age. I say that as a person who grew up with a rotary dial phone connected to a land line.
 
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The young person advantage is less profound as every year passes. Soon even "old" folks will have come up in the digital/mobile age. I say that as a person who grew up with a rotary dial phone connected to a land line.
For certain technologies, that can be true.

Although, even for those, we still have people in the legislature who are in their 60's, and will likely stick around another 15-20 years if they had their way. And they're likely behind that curve.


AI appears to be a different beast in terms of how quickly things go from "new to obsolete".

Being in the field, I go to the major conferences every year, stay on top of changes and new releases as much as one can, etc...

The features/toolsets change very rapidly.

AI-based tools - and the knowledge required to use them proficiently - have changed more in the last 2 years (and will change more in the next year), than Microsoft's Visual Studio offering (an IDE for programming for those who don't know) has changed in the last 10-15 years.

A person who was familiar with building solutions using Visual Studio 2012 (and haven't touched it since) wouldn't have that drastic of a learning curve if they cracked open VS 2022 and started tinkering around with it, there would be a lot that felt familiar. The same will certainly not be true for the various AI toolsets out there.
 
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For certain technologies, that can be true.

Although, even for those, we still have people in the legislature who are in their 60's, and will likely stick around another 15-20 years if they had their way. And they're likely behind that curve.


AI appears to be a different beast in terms of how quickly things go from "new to obsolete".

Being in the field, I go to the major conferences every year, stay on top of changes and new releases as much as one can, etc...

The features/toolsets change very rapidly.

AI-based tools - and the knowledge required to use them proficiently - have changed more in the last 2 years (and will change more in the next year), than Microsoft's Visual Studio offering (an IDE for programming for those who don't know) has changed in the last 10-15 years.

A person who was familiar with building solutions using Visual Studio 2012 (and haven't touched it since) wouldn't have that drastic of a learning curve if they cracked open VS 2022 and started tinkering around with it, there would be a lot that felt familiar. The same will certainly not be true for the various AI toolsets out there.
Thats insider stuff. Time in a dev environment or similar should not be a pre req to effective representation. That would be like expecting all congress people to be medical doctors if they are going to deal with health care matters.

We just need people who can A. relate to what the typical contemporary consumer is going through. and B. are educatable and responsive to ever changing tech and its consequences. I do get that many in congress dont cant satisfy either of those. But age will be increasingly less an indicator. The generations who do seem have a mental block re tech are naturally receding.
 
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