You shall not flee to Azal - Zechariah 14:5

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The phrase ונבקע הר הזיתים מחצין טזרחה literally means “and mountain of the olives is torn from his eastward half”. That is just how Josephus described the landslide that buried the kings' gardens:

"This prodigy was followed by another: near a certain place before the city, named Eroge, the one half of a mountain that looked westward was torn from the other half, and rolled for the space of four furlongs, till it stopped to the eastward of it, by which means the road was blocked up, and the king’s gardens covered with rubbish."​

The word בְקַע is used in 1 Kings 1:40 to describe the earth rending from the loud noise. This indicates either an earthquake or landslide.

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Context is most important
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consider the word 'read' it's proper definition will be found in the surrounding text it is found - just like all other wording especially if it is of a controversial matter
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συνείδησις said:

I've also stated that Azal is the river/valley at the southernmost point of the Mount of Olives. All of these concur:

Israeli government
"המועצה הרעה" בהר אצל

Israel Antiquities Authority
Volume 129 Year 2017 Jerusalem, Nahal Azal

Archaeologists
"This will be about my first field trip in Archaeology of Jerusalem class [at Hebrew University] that occurred last Wednesday October 20th... This is the Azel Valley mentioned in Zechariah 14:5 in reference to the earthquake that occurred during King Uzziah's reign around 760 B.C."
An American Girl in Jerusalem: Geography of Jerusalem

Israeli society
“At the foot of the ridge is the deep channel of Atzal [sic] River (Zechariah 14:5), which advances toward the Kidron Valley. Its Biblical name was preserved by the Arabs as Wadi Yasul.”

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I have more confidence in scripture, than in the conclusions of mere men.

συνείδησις said:

What is it about Jesus standing on the Mount of Olives (which definitely happened) requires its immediate splitting?

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Interesting thread. Do you see Jesus pointing at a specific mountain in the passage of Matthew? If so, which one would it be?
[There is a similar event shown in Reve 8:8.]

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/faith-mountain-and-sea-matt-21-21-mark-11-3.8070820/
Faith, Mountain, and Sea Matthew 21:21/Mark 11:3

Matthew 21:21
Jesus answering, said to them, "amen I am saying to ye, if ever ye may be having faith, and no ye may be doubting, not only the of the fig-tree ye shall be doing,
but even-ever to the Mountain, this-one, ye may saying, 'Be being lifted up! and be being cast! into the sea', it shall be becoming"; [Revelation 8:8]

Hebrew 12:18
For ye came not near to the Mountain touched and scorched with fire, and to blackness, and darkness, and tempest,

Revelation 8:8
And the second messenger did sound, and as it were a great Mountain [OC/Mt Sinai?] with fire burning was cast into the Sea,.......

Hi I see this chapter as the Isaiah 53 of the second coming of Jesus and regardless of where ancient Azal is or what happened in Hezekiah's day the literal nature of this passage taken as whole is the best way to approach it. On this day all the nations are gathered against Jerusalem. In Revelation they stage at Armageddon. Jerusalem is being overrun badly and the taken with half the city being captive with the houses rifled and the women raped. This earthquake coincide with the LORD coming with all His saints. This earthquake is going to be massive and create a valley and river that ill flow year round and in Ezekiel 47 this river mentioned here heals the Dead Sea and not the salt marshes. The LORD melts the invader Indiana Jones style and on this day it is dark in the daytime and light at night showing that this is a literal single day event. On this day the LORD is king over all the earth. Rev has the angels proclaim the kingdoms of this earth have become the kingdoms of our God and His Christ and He shall reign forever. It shows this river flowing year round so a clear continuation of life on earth after the 2nd coming of Jesus. It shows the nations which are left (this implies some nations wont exist anymore) will be require to come to Jerusalem to worship the King and keep the feast of Taberacles or they will get no rain. Rev 15 says
Prelude to the Bowl Judgments
1 Then I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvelous: seven angels having the seven last plagues, for in them the wrath of God is complete.
2 And I saw something like a sea of glass mingled with fire, and those who have the victory over the beast, over his image and over his mark[fn] and over the number of his name, standing on the sea of glass, having harps of God. 3 They sing the song of Moses, the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying:
“Great and marvelous are Your works,
Lord God Almighty!
Just and true are Your ways,
O King of the saints!
4 Who shall not fear You, O Lord, and glorify Your name?
For You alone are holy.
For all nations shall come and worship before You,
For Your judgments have been manifested.”

It is here in Zech 14 we see the Nations now coming to worship before Him. We see the promises in Luke one Jesus taking the throne of David to order and establish it forever happen on this day. We see Isaiah 9
For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of His government and peace
There will be no end,
Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom,
To order it and establish it with judgment and justice
From that time forward, even forever.
The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this. This is when the government comes on his shoulder with justice and Judgment and the peace promised in many places will come when the LORD Jesus reigns. In that day they will say the LORD is one. Zech 14 shoes Israel now calling Jesus LORD and the blindness has come off and they have entered the new covenant . I could go on and on for pages of all the glory that comes on this day of all the bad that is over and all the good that has come and you guys are arguing over things that are technical and in a way that brings no glory, praise, edification or sanctification. When we pray thy kingdom come thy will be done this is the day that brings in the kingdom. There is so much to glory about in this chapter and who's right about Azal now or what happened with Hezekiah is certainly not the meat in this chapter and when it happens being right tor wrong on these matters are of little consequence. Love one another encourage us to not be divided over matters that do not profit and walk in the unity of the Spirit. I quite coming to this site due to all the pop up adds and all I can't stand it and have not been on for years but was researching chapter 14 and saw a link to this convo. I probably won't be back for another few years so God bless you all.