I disagree with you on this. Sin is dynamic, a function of our relationship to God. The reason why breaking the Ten Commandments is sin for the unbeliever is that those commands are given to them to show that they cannot follow them. They also do not change because God’s holiness is immutable.
I understand, but you are not disagreeing with me, its what the plain Text says and Jesus....all quoting from the same Law. Why the Ten Commandments sits under God's mercy seat, it defines what sin is, its God's standard of Judgement and righteousness. He never left that to our own understanding
1 John3:4 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin
is the transgression
of the law.
James 2:11 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder,
you have become a transgressor of the law
Sin is breaking any of the Ten Commandments.
Why Paul said:
Romans 7:7 What shall we say then?
Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary
, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”
Mat5:19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches
them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds
the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
21
“You have heard that it was said to those [d]of old, ‘You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’
Jesus did not come to destroy His Law and foretold He would make His Laws greater which is exactly what He did, He gets to the heart of the matter right where sin begins, if the heart is changed God's commandments would be kept. If not (breaking the least of these commandments and He quotes from the Ten to show us which commandments He speaks of) one would be in fear of sin and danger of judgement according to Jesus
22
But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother [e]without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’[
f] shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, [
g]‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of [
h]hell fire. 23 Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. 25 Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are on the way with him, lest your adversary deliver you to the judge, the judge hand you over to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. 26 Assuredly, I say to you, you will by no means get out of there till you have paid the last penny.
27
“You have heard that it was said [i]to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28
But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to
sin, pluck it out and cast
it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to
sin, cut it off and cast
it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.
God said they can be followed and He has a people who overcomes
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints; (saved) here
are those who
keep the commandments of God and the faith
of Jesus.
John 14:15 “
If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16
And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another [e]Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.
Which reconciles us back to God.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, t
hat they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
As believers in Christ, we are held to a higher standard than the Ten Commandments, which is the teachings and commands of Jesus. I stand before God every day in my inadequacy and awareness of my sin in the face of the Holy Standard Christ laid out in Matthew. I am under grace for this failing. That is what “under grace” means.
If everyone was keeping the Ten Commandments the way Jesus explained in
Mat5:17-30 there would be no more sin in the world. Just peace and harmony
Isa 48:18 Oh, that you had heeded
My commandments!
Then your peace would have been like a river,
And your righteousness like the waves of the sea.
Do you not believe in the teaching of Jesus in
Matthew 5:21-48? That takes the Ten Commandments and makes them more potent.
Yes, this is exactly what I have been saying but the context starts from
Mat5:17 and if we believed there would not be a jot or tittle removed from God's laws including the 4th commandment. I mean who really has the power to edit what God wrote, His own Testimony
Exo31:18 thats under His mercy seat in heaven
Exo25:21 Rev15:5 Rev11:19
Example:
Are we not Christians? Should we not follow the teachings of Our Lord Jesus Christ? The point of these commands is “to be perfect, as your Heavenly Father is perfect” (
Matthew 5:48) To fall short of God’s perfection is to sin. The fact that these enhancements follow certain Decalogue commands and commands in other parts of the Law is no accident.
Why we are told this about the Ten Commandments as they were written and spoken by the God of the Universe, it is His own Testimony and shows how we love God and how we love each other and they are very broad just as Jesus explained from them.
Psa119:96
Psa 19:7 The law of the Lord
is perfect, converting the soul;
The testimony of the Lord
is sure, making wise the simple;
God is perfect, His Law is perfect. Jesus lived them out perfectly keeping even the 4th commandment and is our example we are told to follow.
1 Peter 2: 21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us
, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
22 “
Who committed no sin,
Nor was deceit found in His mouth”;
Jesus never sinned or broke any of the commandments, He kept them and told us to as well if we abide in Him
John15:10 If you
keep My commandments
, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.
1 John 2:6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.
When I accepted the Gospel I submitted to Christ as my authority, not the Decalogue or other Mosaic Laws. Incidentally, I do follow most of the Decalogue, but only insofar as Christ taught from it as a basis for what he wanted his Disciples to do and learn.
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This doesn't make sense to me. When you were growing up, did your parents give you any rules? Did you show that you submitted to your parents by loving them and doing what they asked, or doing what you wanted instead?
We cannot separate the Ten Commandments from God. He gave them, they are His standard of right and wrong
Psa119:172 on how He wants us to live holy lives. He asked us to keep them if we love Him. So if we submit ourselves to Christ as our authority, would we not do what He asks?
Jesus in His own words tells us what we are like when we hear His voice, but do not believe Him to do it.
Luke 6:46 “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and
not do the things which I say? 47
Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and
does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48 He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently against that house, and could not shake it, for it was [
j]founded on the rock. 49
But he who heard
and did nothing is like a man who built a house on the earth without a foundation, against which the stream beat vehemently; and immediately it fell. And
the ruin of that house was great.”
Should we not build our house on the Rock which is Christ? He said we actually need to do what He asks, not just hear.
Mat 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven,
but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them,
‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
1 John 2:3 Now by this we know that we know Him,
if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, “I know Him,” and
does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God [
a]is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.
The Scriptures in my opinion cannot be more clearer on this subject. Hearing God, but not submitting to His will, which God wrote in our hearts and minds- His laws
Psa40:8 Heb8:10 2Cor3:3 , because God does not want us to sin. Look at each one of the Ten Commandments and please tell me which one of these commandments is leading us away from God.
Exo20:1-17 instead of to Him. I mean really read each of them. The first 4 commandments show us how to love God. God's name is in each one of these commandments. Read the last 6 commandments how we are to love our neighbor and read
Mat5:19-30 to show what it means to keep them. Please than tell me which commandment does God not want us to keep or that is not for our own good. This is the Testimony of God
Exo31:18 what the entire Bible hangs on- Love. Love to God Love to man, never did it go undefined, but this is God's standard of righteousness
Psa119:172 and Truth
Psa119:151
1 John 2:29
If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who practices righteousnessis born of Him.
1 John 3:7
Little children,
let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousnessis righteous, just as He is righteous.
1 John 3:10
In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor
is he who does not love his brother.
This definition of sin also does not contradict my definition because faith is trust in a God we cannot see. What does not procede from faith is sin because when we don’t trust God we act against Him to test him, and thus we commit sin. Trust in God will result in obeying God’s commands.
Yes, I said anything that is not of faith is sin, but Scriptures are clear faith does not void the law, it establishes it
Rom3:31 and sin is breaking the law as shown.
This is a mistranslation of that verse.
According to the Greek word its what it literally translates into
1John3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for
sin is the transgression of the law.
ἀνομία anomía, an-om-ee'-ah; from
G459; illegality, i.e.
violation of law or (genitive case) wickedness:—iniquity, ×
transgress(-ion of) the law, unrighteousness.
Its the same word Jesus used here:
Mat7:23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me
, you who practice lawlessness!’
If you translate the verse properly, it does not contradict the definition of sin that I posted previously. Laws are made of commands, so if you reject God’s commands you reject God’s Law and created order and sin against God. If you reject all laws, you reject God’s law, for God is a God of Law and Order.
Sorry I am not following your argument, you previously stated sin is not breaking God's laws and indicating the Ten Commandments were more suggestions. If you believed what you are stating I do not think would have made the very last statement in your post.
Keeping the commands of God is not a curse, even though my fallen nervous system might try to convince me otherwise. Why post this? Is not following the commands of God how we worship Him? This statement seems to contradict the entire context of the presented argument.
Previously I said
The law that is perfect
Psa19:7 cannot be the same law that is contrary and against
Col2:14KJV.
Your answer:
Why I asked this question the first commandment of the Ten Commandments because if we can't get through the first commandment its not going to apply to the other 9. If one of them goes, they all go
James2:11
So I asked when does only worshipping the God of Creation ever show as being a curse in the Bible.
