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Charlie Kirk on Mary
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But as I wrote in Post 6: "That is not an intercession. She would have had to have said something like, "Please give them some wine," for it to have been an intercession."John chapter 2
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She essentially did. And Jesus obeyed her. So, yes, it is intercession from the perspective of the ancient apostolic Churches
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His reply to her was:She essentially did. And Jesus obeyed her. So, yes, it is intercession from the perspective of the ancient apostolic Churches
“Woman, what does your concern have to do with Me? My hour has not yet come.”” (Joh 2:4 NKJV)
Hardly obeying her.
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Keep reading. He literally obeyed her. And the term woman was a sign of respect.
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Agree, mostly.
I don't know if "obey" is the correct word. Although, I'm not saying you are incorrect because there is the parent/child dynamic in play.
To intercede is "the action of intervening on behalf of another."
There's no doubt that Mary was intervening on behalf of those who were in need of more wine. That is intercession by definition.
There was a need, she knew the solution, and she took that need to the source of help on their behalf.
Again, I'm hesitant to say "obey" but there's no doubt that she influenced the subsequent action(s).
She then said, "Do what He says.." once again pointing to the source of help.
This is still the model for her intercession even today.
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Yup. Jesus is the fulfillment of the Davidic Kingdom, therefore Mary is Queen.
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