Did The Fallen Angel 'Samyaza' Manipulate DNA ?

Genesis makes reference to the Watcher’s behavior and the forbidden things they taught. Other texts go into greater detail and you must determine their validity beforehand. Otherwise, you’re left with questions like these. Most of which is explained in the bible. They knowingly sinned and conspired to do so by leaving their rightful domain in the angelic to have relations with women. We are different species. Angels weren’t made in His image but man was. That is their crime. The additional infractions are the result of their compromise and darkened hearts.

We’re provided a recounting of creation for a reason. There are no references in that account to the image shown or its existence. Nor are centaurs made in the Lord’s image which settles the matter. To combine man and beast is abominable and the answer should be obvious. It’s a demonic act. One needn’t be a demon to do so per se. It’s the opposition to His order that makes it so.

As you contemplate the mythological you must determine whether they’re tales or embedded with truths long hidden from most. They’re usually deified and worshiped with rituals assigned to each which may include human sacrifice. Where do we see parallels of the same in scripture? Whether you call him Zeus, Baal or by another name what is the source? If you’re not summoning the Most High who are you beckoning? The answer is evident for believers.

In respect to Clement, what do we know of the Vatican? They have a lot of artifacts in their possession and rare books as well. Knowledge is power and requires an equitable responsibility in its dispense and example. A spiritual leader has more accountability in the heavenly than a layman. Hence the warning provided by James. What might be acceptable for the ignorant is viewed with greater scrutiny for the learned.

We are meant to grow in holiness as we mature. Give no heed to the stature but the fruit therein. I have no mythological figures in my home or depictions of beasts and the like. Because I know what I’m looking at. I don’t divorce the truth for aesthetics because I’m accountable. Convictions are borne from righteousness. And bear mind the office too. What are the responsibilities of shepherds, teachers, etc. biblically? And what did the Lord say to Samuel as he stood before Jesse’s sons to anoint a king? Man looks at the outer but God weighs the heart.

~bella

Apple Sky said:

Did Samyaza mix the DNA of Humans with Animals creating the Centaurs etc ??

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I can believe this, they may have even produced Mermaids & creatures like Medusa.

REF - The book of the Giants.

Also - why would Pope Clement display such figures in his Gardens at his Villa Aldobrandinin


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How would a modern physicist or biologist even go about answering this question? (Hint: they wouldn't because the question in the OP doesn't pertain to these fields, and thus, it doesn't really belong here).

From the angle of the humanities, social science, and historiography, I'd simply say that you seem to be reifying mythical elements that we don't really know to be factual aspects of our world, whether those elements---interesting as they may be---are past or present.

If we're going to invoke a 'biblical' sensibility in any of our musing about the nature of myths of the past, I tend to see the Torah as an ancient form of prophetic 'DE-mythologizing' of what came before it and was even more ancient than itself.

So, both scientifically and biblically speaking, I wouldn't take the confabulations of Mesopotamian, Egyptian and/or later Grecian myths too seriously...........

Apple Sky said:

Did Samyaza mix the DNA of Humans with Animals creating the Centaurs etc ??

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I can believe this, they may have even produced Mermaids & creatures like Medusa.

REF - The book of the Giants.

Also - why would Pope Clement display such figures in his Gardens at his Villa Aldobrandinin


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All mythology is of the devil, including the book of Enoch. Remain faithful to the Spirit-filled Canon of 66 Books and you won't be led astray.

The Lord doesn't want us to entertain ourselves away from our personal relationship with Him and become barren - and actually work counter to His Gospel.

2 Corinthians 10:5 KJV
"Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ..."

biblegateway.com

God bless us all who do, and shall, believe in Jesus and obey Him!

Apple Sky said:

Did Samyaza mix the DNA of Humans with Animals creating the Centaurs etc ??

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I can believe this, they may have even produced Mermaids & creatures like Medusa.

REF - The book of the Giants.

Also - why would Pope Clement display such figures in his Gardens at his Villa Aldobrandinin


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I have thought along these lines myself. I think Enoch and/or Jasher speak to this. Normally, humans and animals do not interbreed simply because their DNA does not match, and even the number of chromosomes differs. However, the fallen angels were somehow able to mix these breeds and create what some translators refer to as "monsters." I do not think they used scientific methods to do this. I suspect they were endowed with some powers and abilities that enabled them to perform "miracles." I do not think modern science is able to cross species and create viable creatures.


Jasher 4
16 And all the sons of men departed from the ways of the Lord in those days as they multiplied upon the face of the earth with sons and daughters, and they taught one another their evil practices and they continued sinning against the Lord.
17 And every man made unto himself a god, and they robbed and plundered every man his neighbor as well as his relative, and they corrupted the earth, and the earth was filled with violence.
18 And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals.
19 And the Lord said, I will blot out man that I created from the face of the earth, yea from man to the birds of the air, together with cattle and beasts that are in the field for I repent that I made them.

This perhaps adds new light to these verses in Genesis:

Genesis 6:11-13 KJV
11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

There seems to be quite a bit of seed mixing going on in the OT , and one story that still creates controversy is the Lion like men of Moab



And even today there are hints of possible seed mixing or creating chimeras.
Remember the Montauk monster ?



And I have no way of proving this , but I have heard that the soldiers that are fighting the enemy in the underground tunnels are not only fighting humans , but also Chimeras. The one that I heard about was supposed to be half bat and half human type creatures and very dangerous.

Apple Sky said:

Did Samyaza mix the DNA of Humans with Animals creating the Centaurs etc ??

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I can believe this, they may have even produced Mermaids & creatures like Medusa.

REF - The book of the Giants.

Also - why would Pope Clement display such figures in his Gardens at his Villa Aldobrandinin


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Aza was listed in Jewish tradition as the leader of the batch of 200 or so fallen angels that came just before the flood. Enoch and Genesis give some detail but no one mentions centaurs. The offspring he engineered seem rather to be the Nephilim characterised by giantism and great strength. I think there has to be a supernatural element to these manipulations of the human code and that there were never many of these beings on the planet. Indeed God wiped them out with the flood. They were a source of wickedness and even their superhero credentials were overthrown by God's intervention - so why the fascination?

Yes, the ancient Jewish book, The Book of Jasher, chapter four verse eighteen indicates that cloning took place before the Flood of the Time of Noah. The statement by Jesus that the latter days would be like the Time of Noah indicate that this happens again.

I definitely think something weird happened pre flood.

When you consider for example how these stories of giants or fallen angels or gods that walked the earth are a common theme throughout different ancient cultures. It seems even though much is elbaorated on something caused people to believe such a thing.

There is usually some basis in truth for these stories. Like the flood stories are based on some real flood event.

We don't know what the world was like back then. If anything I think it was much more religiously sophisticated than we think.

If this period in time got to a point where the entire world except Noah and his family were always sinning then they had reached a point where they thought of themselves as gods. With a little help from a fallen angel or two lol. With elborate ways of worshipping those gods.

I think I read that Goliath was a decedent of these ancient giants who walked the earth. From memory ancient South American myths have giants who were seen as from the gods who built the megaliths and brought sacred knowledge.

Joseph G said:

All mythology is of the devil, including the book of Enoch. Remain faithful to the Spirit-filled Canon of 66 Books and you won't be led astray.

The Lord doesn't want us to entertain ourselves away from our personal relationship with Him and become barren - and actually work counter to His Gospel.

2 Corinthians 10:5 KJV
"Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ..."

biblegateway.com

God bless us all who do, and shall, believe in Jesus and obey Him!

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I respect your personal opinions and beliefs regarding mythology and even the book of Enoch, but what do you do with books in the canon of 66 that teach some of the same things you obviously do not believe on this atopic?

The book of Enoch tells us that the Watchers did exactly that, he was the leader of the Watchers.

Experimenting with humans and animals creating monstrosities ,with an s. So most of, if not all that is considered mythological creatures may have existed before the flood. These creatures probably were not great in numbers but well known to mankind that lived then.

Apple Sky said:

I also tells us this in the book of Jasher ;

The book of Yashar (Jasher) chapter 4 further confirms this understanding of pre-flood hybridization.

18 And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals.

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I've heard about that book, I've never read it, I just may do so, thank you.

It is a shame that the English and Roman churches decided to reject the Books of Enoch / Book of the Giants, considering them none Canon. Then it was the choice of men to decide what to keep and what to put aside.
When both books were a part of the Hebrew Scrolls, written 2 to 4 hundred years before the birth of Christ, some has analyzed.

Books many churches term as mythology today and it was the church who decided what was mythological.

One cannot say as an absolute that the Angels did not manipulate human DNA with animal DNA creating monstrosities as written by the writer of the books of Enoch and such things were destroyed in the flood. The flood was to destroy all that was not of God. And all the scrolls had been rewritten possibly three times before the Roman occupation and destruction of Jerusalem.

Wasn't until the present decade that many of the churches began to accept angels took wives of women has written in Genesis chapter 6. And mixing their DNA with humans, as written in Daniel iron and Clay don't mix.

And there are a few things that the Bible speaks of that the church has deemed mythology, the Satyrs, the unicorn, dragons, Giants.

Looking at the descriptions of some of the heavenly beings, they too are part human looking and part animal. And they want you to believe that but disbelieve what is written in Enoch.

Our little publishing company published both the Book of Enoch and Jasher. They sell pretty well, and there are generally no complaints on the Amazon reviews. Some of the long parts are hard to drudge through. But the opening chapters of both books are worth the read.

As a creationist, I don't think fallen angels had to be involved with humanity playing around with amalgamations or any other so called "scientific" endeavors fallen humanity plays around with today. No doubt the closer to the original perfection of mind and body humanity was created with, the more intelligent and capable we were. Add that to the biblical testimony that our thoughts became evil only, and you no doubt had some very wicked scientific endeavors among the antediluvians. To such an extent that the Lord determined He would have to wipe them out and start again, before there were none left even capable of being saved. Then even after the flood, He had to confuse our languages to prevent the same conditions from rapidly developing again, until the time and day He has appointed for the end of fallen humanity altogether.

Gen 11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. 2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. 3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. 4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. 5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. 6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. 7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. 8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. 9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

Though we do not have one language today, we have many easy methods of being able to understand each other. We also have many religious and political people who want a one world religion and or government, or at least a cooperation of all of the same under one global authority. These are in fact the same conditions which lead to universal rebellion against God unto the destruction of fallen humanity as a whole. Which God prevented from developing to quickly again unto universal rebellion and destruction again. No doubt having a hand in keeping humanity divided enough throughout history as well, until the time he has appointed for its final end at our Lords return. Which is why biblical prophecy depicts a form of global worship and government in rebellion against God at the very end of time. At which time God's faithful servants alone, will refuse the worship a united humanity will demand from all, in rebellion against God. The wheat and the tares will be completely divided in this one generation by the choice each and everyone of us have made, and the end will come.

Rev 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. 16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. 17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. 18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. 19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

Right before the above final events transpire, certain specific messages are given to humanity. The decision each of us make concerning which, will determine if we will be among the harvest of the earth, or the harvest bound for heaven.

The Messages of the Three Angels

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. 8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. 9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. 13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.