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Trump’s Domestic Use of Military Set to Get Worse, Leaked DHS/DoD Memo Shows: LA "hasn't been perfect" but indicates what's coming "for years to come"

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Poll shows a majority of Americans don't want Trump to send National Guard to major cities — as he says Chicago and Baltimore are next

Even more respondents say they would disapprove of the president deploying the military where they live.​

37% of Americans say they would approve of the president sending soldiers to other “major cities” after D.C.

In contrast, a majority — 53% — say they would disapprove.

Three weeks after declaring a crime emergency and deploying the National Guard in D.C. — something Trump has the legal authority to do — more Americans disapprove (48%) than approve (39%) of his federal takeover of the nation’s capital.

A majority of Americans (56%) would disapprove of Trump sending soldiers to patrol their local streets (though 69% of Republicans say they would approve).

"The line is that I'm a dictator,” Trump said. “But I stop crime. So a lot of people say, ‘You know, if that's the case, I'd rather have a dictator.’” The president then added that he is “not a dictator.”

just 14% of Americans say they would approve of "the U.S. having a dictator if it led to much lower levels of crime”; 69% say they would disapprove. Even among Republicans, only 27% say they would approve of the hypothetical scenario Trump described.

Only 27%?!?
Well, see, when the “tried-and-true” (basically how we’ve been doing it for lo, these two-and-a-half centuries), leaving the cities and States sort out their own “problems” stops working (according to some invented metric that the “locals” cannot seem to be proficient in), why of course Big Government will have to “step-in” and sort things out; it’d be swell if the President at the time this happens isn’t a raging megalomanic, you know, like this time.
 
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"The line is that I'm a dictator,” Trump said. “But I stop crime. So a lot of people say, ‘You know, if that's the case, I'd rather have a dictator.’” The president then added that he is “not a dictator.”

just 14% of Americans say they would approve of "the U.S. having a dictator if it led to much lower levels of crime”; 69% say they would disapprove. Even among Republicans, only 27% say they would approve of the hypothetical scenario Trump described.

Only 27%?!?
Sure 27% sounds bad, but sometimes it feels like it is a whole lot more. It almost makes me hopeful that things haven't gotten superbad yet. The majority of Republican voters are reachable if they can see what Trump and his cronies are up to. (The reaction of strong Trump supporters to the Epstein business is interesting as many of the most invested in learning about that business were Q-types who were obsessed with Trump and may have been irregular voters.)

My guess is that most of the 27% are hard-core Christian nationalists.
 
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Meh?
This might actually be a good move?
As part of the government that has been “taking care of” the Station badly, then it’s obvious that they should be replaced by another part of the government to do the upkeep and the train people can concentrate on the mediocre service they’re renown for!
(It’s just passenger trains after all, not like it’s a “real business”.)
 
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At least the Civil War hat is Union....

The Cavalry Stetson was introduced in the late 1860s. It most associated with the cavalry wars with the Plains Indians.

The similar hat from the Civil War is the Hardee hat:

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Trump says he's sending the National Guard into Memphis to 'fix' crime like D.C.

"We’re going to Memphis. Memphis is deeply troubled," Trump said in an interview on Fox News’ “Fox and Friends” in New York. "The mayor is happy. He’s a Democrat. And the governor of Tennessee, the governor is happy. We’re gonna fix that just like we did Washington."

The president then raised the issue of lowering crime in New Orleans and Chicago, the latter city's crime rate being a frequent talking point of his.

"I can fix Chicago, much bigger than D.C., but we can bring in the military," Trump said. "We can bring in the National Guard. We’ll do what we have to do."

Trump said he decided on Memphis after someone on the board of Fedex, which is headquartered in that city, brought up the crime rate there to him.
 
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ONLY I CAN SAVE THEM!!!

The only reason crime is somewhat down in Memphis is because the FBI, and others in the Federal Government, at my direction, have been working there for 5 months - on the absolutely terrible Crime numbers. Likewise, in Chicago and Los Angeles! But the real work by us has barely begun. That happens after we make the official announcement that WE’RE COMING, and when we do that, as we did in now VERY SAFE WASHINGTON, D.C., the no crime “miracle” begins. ONLY I CAN SAVE THEM!!! Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DJT
 
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ICE is considering using a naval base north of Chicago as its hub when potential enforcement raids take place in that city.​

[ooh, how about an amphibious landing! That'll take the criminals by surprise!]

US Customs and Border Patrol boats spotted on Chicago River amidst ‘Operation Midway Blitz’

The boats were seen traveling east on the Chicago River and armed federal agents were spotted aboard the boats.

The Chicago Tribune reported the boats docked near the Chicago Harbor Lock ... one of the busiest locks in the country for commercial and recreational boat traffic, according to officials.

“It’s just further proof that this administration is only committed to intimidating people and working to strike fear into the hearts, into the minds of the people in this city,” Mayor Brandon Johnson said. “I don’t really see how this is helping anyone, anywhere. I do not know what they are up to.”
 
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War-torn Portland, eh?

It must be The Battle of Portland ? No? That was 370 years ago in the English Channel? Oh.

Surely it was the Battle of Portland Harbor then? America in civil war, brother against brother? Oh, *that* Civil War 160 years ago, but in Portland, right? No? Wrong Portland again, this time in Maine? Oh.

Old man Trump is confused again, you say? Perhaps someone should look into that.
 
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Criminal investigation launched after feds fire pepper ball at CBS Chicago reporter's truck

Well, I suppose in the heat of a chaotic protest... wait, I'm getting a message.

Reporter Asal Rezaei said there was no active protest or protesters at the facility, and she was alone with no one around her at the time of the incident.

In a report filed with Broadview police, Rezaei said she was driving her truck with her driver's side window down, while approaching the 25th Avenue entrance to see if any activity was taking place, before leaving the area.

That's when she said a masked ICE agent, who saw her window down, shot a pepper ball about 50 feet from the inside of the fence, hitting her truck's driver's side panel, causing the chemical agents to engulf the inside of her truck.

Broadview Police Chief Thomas Mills responded to the incident in a statement, saying, "The Village of Broadview Police Department has launched a criminal investigation into an allegedly unprovoked attack on a CBS Chicago TV news reporter's vehicle by a chemical munition fired from the direction of U.S. Immigration Customs and Enforcement detention facility. The victim declined medical attention. The Broadview Police Department expects the full cooperation by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security into our criminal investigation."
 
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After Weeks of Threats, Trump Sends Federalized Troops To Downtown Chicago

President Donald Trump has started sending federalized troops to Chicago on Sunday after threatening to do so for weeks.

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson (D) — soon after clips of troops and immigration agents patrolling The Windy City started circulating on X on Sunday — posted that he was aware of the development.

“I am closely monitoring the confirmed reports of federal agents on Michigan Ave.,” Johnson said. “While Chicagoans and visitors are enjoying another gorgeous Sunday, they are being intimidated and threatened by masked federal agents flaunting automatic weapons for no apparent reason.”

Gregory Bovino, a border patrol chief, told local radio station WBEZ that agents were arresting people based on “many different factors,” including “how they look.”
 
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Officials restrict Chicago airspace, citing 'credible threat' of attacks on agents

The Federal Aviation Administration confirmed a temporary flight restriction was put in place “at the request of the Department of Homeland Security."

The restrictions, which largely target drones, include aircraft from the surface to 400 feet, citing “security reasons.” The restricted zone extends in a 15-nautical-mile radius stretching from downtown Chicago to north of Evanston, west of Elmhurst and south of Dolton.

The American Civil Liberties Union said the restrictions could “effectively block private citizens and the media from using drones to observe and track ICE raids and arrests.”

“These restrictions appear to follow a disturbing pattern with the Trump Administration — attempting to limit the ability of the public and the media to monitor and demand accountability for their actions,” Ed Yohnka, director of communications and public policy at the ACLU of Illinois, said in a statement.
 
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Trump officials discussed sending elite 82nd Airborne Army division to Portland, text messages show

A high-ranking White House official was indiscreetly texting about the Portland, Ore., planning last weekend, according to messages shared with the Minnesota Star Tribune.

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Anthony Salisbury, a top deputy to White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, was reportedly exchanging messages with War Secretary Pete Hegseth’s adviser Patrick Weaver over Signal in a crowded public space last weekend while traveling in Minnesota to a family funeral. [and the Signal chats were allegedly captured by someone who shared them with the MST]

“Between you and I, I think Pete just wants the top cover from the boss if anything goes sideways with the troops there,” wrote Weaver.

Another message acknowledged the political cost of such a move: “82nd is like our top tier for abroad. So it will cause a lot of headlines. Probably why he wants potus to tell him to do it.”

Hegseth wanted to send the National Guard instead, he added.

Elsewhere the exchange revealed information about other ongoing campaigns within the cabinet, according to the outlet, with Salisbury insulting FBI director Kash Patel as a “giant ████ canoe.”
 
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Trump authorizes 300 National Guard in Chicago as [Trump-appointed] judge temporarily blocks his plan to deploy federal troops in Portland

The ongoing battle between the Trump administration and Democrat-led cities intensified this weekend, with a federal judge in Oregon hitting pause on the president’s plan to deploy federal troops in Portland, and the White House announcing authorization for hundreds of National Guard members to be sent to Chicago.

District Judge Karin Immergut granted a temporary restraining order Saturdayblocking Trump from sending the National Guard to Portland, ruling that city and Oregon officials “are likely to succeed on their claim that the President exceeded his constitutional authority and violated the Tenth Amendment” in ordering the deployment.

Immergut – a Trump appointee – said the president appeared to have federalized the Oregon National Guard “absent constitutional authority” and that protests in Portland “did not pose a ‘danger of a rebellion.’”

Demonstrators both for and against the National Guard deployment rallied outside the building, according to CNN affiliate KATU, whose crews reported seeing federal agents deploying multiple rounds of pepper balls, flash bangs and tear gas to clear streets.

Portland’s police department said its officers did not see any crimes against people or property during Saturday’s demonstration and that they made no arrests and did not use munitions.

[In Chicago, two people were arrested for allegedly ramming fed vehicles. One US citizen woman in the car was armed, shot by CBP, drove herself to the hospital and taken into FBI custody upon her release.]

On Saturday, the White House announced the president had authorized 300 members of the Illinois National Guard to “protect federal officers and assets” in Chicago, a move Trump has been promising for weeks.

“This morning, the Trump Administration’s Department of War gave me an ultimatum: call up your troops, or we will,” [Gov.] Pritzker said on X Saturday. “It is absolutely outrageous and un-American to demand a Governor send military troops within our own borders and against our will.”
 
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