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The Lord will arise as He did in ancient times.1 He sits on high and passes sentence upon the nations.2 He will stand up and judge the world 3 and all the wicked will perish.4
The Lord has ready sealed up in His storehouse His punishment to use against His enemies.5 On that Day, the sun will shine with seven times its normal strength and the moon will shine with the brightness of the sun.6 Then the sun will turn to darkness and the moon to blood, before the great and terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath.7
News of this coming disaster reaches us, our arms are powerless and agony grips us like a woman in labour. Outside is terror, for in an instant the Destroyer is upon us.8 People are limp with fear and they wet their pants in fright.9

Nations are ready to attack, but no one goes to war, as their preparations have triggered the wrath of the Lord.10 The enemy has prepared his weapons, but it is upon himself that his deadly shafts tipped with fire will recoil.11 As the fire consumes the stubble and flames burn up the chaff, they will disappear like fine dust.12 The horde of your enemies will crumble into powder. Suddenly, in an instant, punishment will come from the Lord with thunder, earthquakes and flames of devouring fire 13 and the sky will disperse like smoke with a great rushing sound. 14

The Day comes, burning like a furnace, all evildoers will be as stubble, that Day sets them ablaze.15 The Lord comes in fire, like a whirlwind bringing retribution in His furious anger of flaming fire. He will judge all mankind and many will be slain by Him.16 Furiously the Lord traverses the earth, in His anger He tramples down the nations.17 Evil people will die, they will be incinerated and go up in smoke.18 The Lord will destroy humans and animals, dire distress will come upon the sinful peoples, their blood and guts will spill out on the ground.19 Corpses will fall and lie like swaths behind the reaper,20 those who the Lord kills on that Day will lie scattered from one end of the world to the other. They will be as dung upon the earth.21
Ref. REB. Some verses abridged.


1/ Isaiah 28:21-22 The Lord will take action, as ‘in the days of Noah’. Isaiah 2:20-21, Rev 6:12-17

2/ Psalms 7:6-8 This is not the Return, this time the Lord won’t be seen by the world. Romans 1:18

3/ Zephaniah 3:8 He instigates His judgement and punishment. Isaiah 64:1-2, 2 Peter 3:7

4/ Hebrews 10:27 The peoples attacking Israel will die. Nahum 1:2-3, Psalm 83:1-18

5/ Deuteronomy 32:22 & 34-35 The means He will use to do this is ready. Isaiah 28:2, Isa 54:16

6/ Isaiah 30:26 It will be a CME sunstrike. Initially the sun will emit a powerful flash and the moon will flare up from the chemical reaction of the hydrogen plasma hitting it. Habakkuk 3:3-4

7/ Joel 2:31 The moon will burn brightly red, and the sun will be obscured by the approaching mass of superheated hydrogen plasma. Acts 2:19-20, Revelation 6:12

8/ Jeremiah 6:24-26 This happens during the 24 hour period between the initial flash and the mass striking the Middle East region at mid-day. Zeph. 2:4, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Joel 2:1-3

9/ Ezekiel 7:17 All know what is coming and panic sets in. Ezekiel 21:5-7, Jeremiah 30:6-7

10/ Ezekiel 7:14 There will be no rocket attack or WW3. Psalms 69:24-25, Isaiah 13:6

11/ Psalms 7:14-16 The enemies’ weapons explode before launching. Obadiah 1:15, Psalm 37:14-15, Joel 3:4

12/ Isaiah 5:24 The fire of the CME will consume His enemies. Zephaniah 3:8, Isaiah 66:15-17

13/ Isaiah 29:5-6 A sudden and unexpected event. 1 Thess. 5:1-3, Isaiah 29:14

14/ 2 Peter 3:10 The earth’s atmosphere facing the sun, is pushed aside. Revelation 6:14, Isaiah 34:4

15/ Malachi 4:1 Extreme heat and enveloping fire. Isaiah 9:19, Jeremiah 7:20

16/ Isaiah 66:15-16 All the world will be affected by this judgement by fire. Hosea 8:14,Luke 3:17

17/ Habakkuk 3:12 The Judgement of the nations, not individuals. Isaiah 33:12, Jeremiah 46:16

18/ Isaiah 9:18-19 Evil peoples are burned to death. Psalms 79:5-6, Psalms 37:20, Hebrews 10:27

19/ Zephaniah 1:14-17 The Middle East virtually cleared of every living thing. Isa. 51:6, Hosea 4:3

20 & 21/ Jeremiah 9:22, Jeremiah 25:30-33 Worldwide devastation and deaths. Amos 8:2-3, Isaiah 63:1-6, Revelation 14:18
 

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What chapter ?
The book, chapter and verses for all the Bible quotations, are listed 1 to 21, below the story of the future events. With other supporting scriptures.

I expect that any rebuttal will make a case from other scriptures, showing why a different meaning is considered.
 
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The book, chapter and verses for all the Bible quotations, are listed 1 to 21, below the story of the future events. With other supporting scriptures.

I expect that any rebuttal will make a case from other scriptures, showing why a different meaning is considered.
keras, you are making your personal opinion world news preview sound like scripture by assigning a number before each sentence.

I would suggest just delete the thread, and start a new thread on what you think is going to happen, without numbering each sentence.
 
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keras, you are making your personal opinion world news preview sound like scripture by assigning a number before each sentence.
Where exactly do I make a personal opinion in the OP?
The numbers link to the reference of each scripture quoted. I'm sorry to hear that you have difficulty with that system.
start a new thread on what you think is going to happen,
What I think and conversely; what you think, has no bearing on what the Prophets tell us WILL happen.

I have coined a new word: condelu;- A confused, deceived and deluded person.
A condelu person is one who believes and worse,- who promotes theories about future things, which do not have Biblical support.
 
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The next Prophesied event that the world will experience will be the Sixth Seal. Revelation 6:12-17 Proved by how the first Five Seals were opened at Jesus’ Ascent to heaven. Revelation 6:1-11 All those things have happened, we have experienced wars, famines, plagues and economic disasters aplenty. Any more of any of those and humankind could have been wiped out.
The Sixth Seal worldwide disaster, of cosmic and earthly events is graphically prophesied in the Bible over 100 times, will cause the earth to shudder and shake, and move out of her place....Isaiah 13:13, Isaiah 24:19-20, Revelation 6:14

It will be just a one Day event, as the Coronal Mass Ejection explosion of the suns surface, that the Lord will instigate, Isaiah 30:26a, Psalms 50:1-3, will quickly pass; travelling at 3.5 million mph. But the strike onto the earth of a multi billion ton mass, of superheated Hydrogen plasma, will literally cause all the prophesied effects of the virtual depopulation of all the Middle East region, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Isaiah 13:9, Isaiah 66:17, and worldwide devastation.
It won't affect the daily rotation of the earth, ask any scientist to tell you how totally destructive a sudden change to the earths spin would be.

What it will do is speed up the earth’s orbit by pushing the earth as it moves now at 66,000 mph on its orbital track. Just imagine it; a mass approaching a fast moving object, some may initially hit direct, then the main mass; pressing on the trailing side. This will speed up our 365.24 day year to a 360 day year. Isaiah 13:13
Making the time periods as given by Daniel and Revelation fit exactly!

Regarding the darkness on that Day: Amos 5:18-20, Joel 2:31,
The sun will be obscured by the approaching mass, then when it has passed, there will be smoke and ash clouds for possibly months. Isaiah 60:2

The effects of the earthquakes, storms and tsunamis. plus the moon shining bright red and the earths atmosphere facing the sun being pushed aside, are what a massive CME can and will cause.

Because this will be a seemingly natural disaster, those who disbelieve in God, will continue in their disbelief and when the Leader of the One World Govt demands worship of him, they will be happy to do so. Revelation 13:8
 
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The next Prophesied event that the world will experience will be the Sixth Seal.
The next prophesied event may be the resurrection/rapture. Not for certain.

The next prophesied event involving the unsaved will be the Gog/Magog attack on Israel of Ezekiel 38-39.

In your theory, the replacement of the current nation of Israel with a Christian nation called Beulah, Ezekiel 38-39 does not mention such a major event.
 
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In your theory, the replacement of the current nation of Israel with a Christian nation called Beulah
Not my theory, but Bible truth. Proved by how the people who Gog is motivated to attack, cannot be the current Israelis. Who are not living peaceably and have many walls of defence; literal and electronic.
Isaiah 62:1-5 tells us about a future nation in the Holy Land, of Gods Holy peoples. Isaah 35:1-10, 66:18b-21; +, tells how they get there.

It must be them whom Gog/Magog will attack. Again proved by how the Lord figuratively 'hooks him by the jaw', to draw hm and his vast army down, so He can destroy them.
This is so He can show His people the proof of His protection.

Why don't you address the OP, instead of harping on over issues where you have been shown to be wrong - many times.
 
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It must be them whom Gog/Magog will attack. Again proved by how the Lord figuratively 'hooks him by the jaw', to draw hm and his vast army down, so He can destroy them.
keras, in the text of Ezekiel 38:8 and Ezekiel 38:16, the Gog/Magog attack it says will take place in the latter days, latter years.

Your replacement nation theory is supposed to be the next event, according to you. We are living in the latter days, latter years. But no mention in Ezekiel 38 of there being a replacement nation.

Also the 70 weeks of Daniel 9 are determined upon Daniel's people and Jerusalem. Daniel's people are the twelve tribes of Israel. You and I are not of the twelve tribes of Israel. And neither would a replacement nation of Christians be made up of the twelve tribes of Israel.

I think the only thing that is going to change your mind is when the Gog/Magog attack takes place. It should not be too long from now that it happens.
 
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keras, in the text of Ezekiel 38:8 and Ezekiel 38:16, the Gog/Magog attack it says will take place in the latter days, latter years.

Your replacement nation theory is supposed to be the next event, according to you. We are living in the latter days, latter years. But no mention in Ezekiel 38 of there being a replacement nation.

Also the 70 weeks of Daniel 9 are determined upon Daniel's people and Jerusalem. Daniel's people are the twelve tribes of Israel. You and I are not of the twelve tribes of Israel. And neither would a replacement nation of Christians be made up of the twelve tribes of Israel.

I think the only thing that is going to change your mind is when the Gog/Magog attack takes place. It should not be too long from now that it happens.
Soms people are seemingly unable to understand plain Words of scripture. Ezekiel 38 says that the people in the holy Land when Gog attacks, will be undefended. It is simply impossible for the G/M attack to come upon the current Jewish State of Israel.
One of the Prophesies that does tell of the forthcoming attack on the Israelis, is Psalms 83 and the result is a virtual wipeout of the entire Middle East. Zephaniah 1:14-18. Amos 1:1-15. Including Jewish Israel; Amos 2:4-5, Isaiah 6:11-13

THEN; the faithful peoples of God, - those who stood strong during the terrible Day of the Lords fiery wrath, will gather and migrate to all of the Holy Land, where they will live in peace and security, trusting in the Lord for their protection. He delivers it - mightily! Joel 2:20
Does anyone here agree that this is what the Prophets say? Please click on the "agree" tick.
 
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Ezekiel 38 says that the people in the holy Land when Gog attacks, will be undefended. It is simply impossible for the G/M attack to come upon the current Jewish State of Israel.
Impossible ?

Hamas and Iran have been attacking the Jewish State of Israel, killing innocent civilians. Iran (Persia) will be part of the Gog/Magog group
 
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Impossible ?

Hamas and Iran have been attacking the Jewish State of Israel, killing innocent civilians. Iran (Persia) will be part of the Gog/Magog group
Yes: impossible!
Because Gog will attack the new nation of Beulah, to seize plunder, to carry off gold and silver, livestock and goods. Ezekiel 38:12-13
Hamas took hostages and Iran simply wants to 'wipe Israel off the map'.

Persia: Ezekiel 38:5, will be part of Gog's army, as it will be the Southern part of Iran, the areas once called Elam and Shinar, Jeremiah 49:35-37, Zechariah 5, that will be destroyed on the previous Lords Day of wrath. Along with all of the Holy Land, including Jewish Israel. Hebrews 10:26-31
 
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Because Gog will attack the new nation of Beulah, to seize plunder, to carry off gold and silver, livestock and goods.
It does not say Beulah in Ezekiel 38, but Israel. Ezekiel 38:8

Ezekiel 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

Israel reformed as a nation again in 1948. Ezekiel 38-39 attack will be on the present Jewish nation of Israel.
 
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It does not say Beulah in Ezekiel 38, but Israel. Ezekiel 38:8
That reference is to a part of the Holy Land, which will become part of the new nation of Beulah. As will the desert of Arabia and the coast of Lebanon, etc. ALL that area from the Nile to the Euphrates, will be taken over by the Lords peoples.
Israel reformed as a nation again in 1948. Ezekiel 38-39 attack will be on the present Jewish nation of Israel.
Definitive statements like this, while ignoring the fact's of why Gog attacks and how Beulah relies on the Lord for protection; just put you in a very bad light.
These Bible Prophesies will happen:
Zephaniah 1:4 I shall stretch My hand over Judah, over all who live in Jerusalem, I shall wipe out their false worship, ….erasing all memory of them.
Zephaniah 1:14-18 The great Day of the Lord is near and is fast approaching. …..a day of dire distress upon the people, because of their sins against the Lord……
Nothing will save them from the fire of His retribution and vengeance, the whole Land will be affected, for He will make a sudden and terrible end to all who live in the Land.

Amos 2:4-5 For crime after crime of Judah, I shall grant them no reprieve, because they have spurned the Word of the Lord and have not observed His decrees…….Therefore I will send fire upon Judah and Jerusalem will be destroyed.

Jesus made it clear too:
Matthew 8:12 Those who are born into the Kingdom will be thrown out…..
Matthew 21:43 I tell you: the Kingdom will be taken from you Jews ……
Revelation 2:9….those who claim to be Jews, but are not as they are really a synagogue of Satan.
 
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Events now unfolding in the Middle East are rapidly bringing closer the apocalyptic scenario as predicted in many prophetic scriptures, mainly Psalms 83, Revelation 6:12-17, Joel 2:1-11, Zephaniah 3:8, Zechariah 12:1-10. As described, the Lord Himself intervenes and destroys a massive attack from an Islamic confederation. The Messiah Jesus reveals Himself personally to the people surviving in Israel. Isaiah 6:13, Isaiah 29:1-4 At this time, those remnant Christian Jews will receive a spirit of compassion and will mourn ‘over Him whom they pierced. Zechariah 12:10-14.

Psalms 83 begins by describing a united conspiracy against Israel. Their aim is total annihilation of the Jewish State of Israel, to occupy all the Land and to wipe out any remembrance of them. Although each of the tribal groups mentioned is a historic enemy of Israel and has fought against them on various occasions, there is no record that they ever joined in such an alliance. All of the modern nations who are descendants of the peoples mentioned in Psalms 83, are currently obsessed with an Islamic inspired determination to completely eliminate the Jewish State of Israel.

Psalms 81:13-15 O that My people would listen to Me, that Israel would walk in My ways! I would soon subdue their enemies and turn My hand against their adversaries. The haters of the Lord pretend submission to Him, but their fate will endure forever.
Verse 15 tells of a people who hate God when they think in their minds that they submit to Him. The word Islam, means submitters to god: their god, Allah.
So then, when we read in Psalms 83:2 For your enemies raise an uproar, those who hate you hold their heads high, it is saying that the enemies mentioned, are those who believe they submit to God, but in reality are full of religious pride and are in fact haters of the true God.

Psalms 83:18 So let it be known that You, whose name is Jesus are alone the Most High over all the earth.
The reason that the Lord will be so powerfully victorious in this coming war, is to witness to all unbelievers, especially the Ishmaelite peoples, who will then recognise the true God and Islam will be discredited.

The writer of Psalms 83, the prophet Asaph, prays that Israel’s current enemies will be just as soundly defeated as were the Midianites, etc, when their armies were scattered and their leaders executed. When this prayer is answered, the holy Land will be a much bigger country, it will include all the area given by God to Abraham. Isaiah 25:13, Micah 7:11

There will be a terrible loss of life, as well as many refugees, who will flee from all the Mid east countries. Amos 1:15 But a holy remnant will survive in Jerusalem. After the Land is cleaned and regenerated, then all the true descendants of Jacob and those grafted in, all the Christian Israelites of God, will be motivated to emigrate to the New Israel. [Beulah; Isaiah 62:1-5] There, they will be an example to the world of how all should live and 144,000 of them will go out to all peoples and preach the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Revelation 14:1-7, Isaiah 66:19. Ref: logostlos.info
 
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