A very hungry newborn planet. European Southern Observatory Picture of the Week

AV1611VET · Tuesday at 4:54 PM

dlamberth said:
The paper is very detailed.

Which adds to my suspicion.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Tuesday at 4:55 PM

AV1611VET said:
Which adds to my suspicion.

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AV1611VET · Tuesday at 4:59 PM

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
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When it comes to contradicting the Bible, yes.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Tuesday at 5:03 PM

AV1611VET said:
When it comes to contradicting the Bible, yes.

Yes, we know your 'standards'.

For someone who said that this whole thing isn't a fraud, you're doing everything you can to say it is. Why is the paper being detailed 'suspicious' to you? Or is it more because you don't understand it? We'd think more highly of you if you just admitted that you don't understand the science being use.

dlamberth · Tuesday at 5:13 PM

AV1611VET said:
When it comes to contradicting the Bible, yes.

I understand it can be difficult for some when God's own Creation is showing a very different story than the one we read in the Bible.

Ophiolite · Tuesday at 5:58 PM

AV1611VET said:
Which adds to my suspicion.

If it lacked detail it would add to your suspicion.
If it had an average amount of detail it would add to your suspicion.
If it was published by a single author it would add to your suspicion.
If it was published by a many authors it would add to your suspicion.
If it was published in an American journal it would add to your suspicion.
If it was published in a European jouranal it would add to your suspicion.
If it was reported on the news networks it would add to your suspicion.
If this week Thursday was to follow Wednesday it would add to your suspicion.

I find that suspicious.

AV1611VET · Tuesday at 6:41 PM

dlamberth said:
I understand it can be difficult for some when God's own Creation is showing a very different story than the one we read in the Bible.

Perhaps you should try listening then, instead of just looking?

Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

Unqualified · Tuesday at 6:52 PM

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
Yeah... you're still committing libel when you type things out on the internet which are not true about the people you're talking about.

there’s no libel in the truth but the truth hurts. Liberals could make a case for it being twisted as they are. Calling good evil and evil good. You must not know yourself very well. How does a Christian not see the sin in the world. How does a Christian not know the evil in men’s hearts. You can’t even admit to other ways to explain things. Those who judge themselves by themselves are not wise. It’s a perfect picture bu you don’t know the end or the beginning. But God does. A couple weeks of pictures cannot give you the whole truth, just theories, unproven theories. That’s how science works but the can’t prove anything. Your really close minded to the truth.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Tuesday at 6:56 PM

Unqualified said:
there’s no libel in the truth but the truth hurts. Liberals could make a case for it being twisted as they are. Calling good evil and evil good. You must not know yourself very well. How does a Christian not see the sin in the world. How does a Christian not know the evil in men’s hearts. You can’t even admit to other ways to explain things. Those who judge themselves by themselves are not wise. It’s a perfect picture bu you don’t know the end or the beginning. But God does. A couple weeks of pictures cannot give you the whole truth, just theories, unproven theories. That’s how science works but the can’t prove anything. Your really close minded to the truth.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm putting you onto my IGNORE list since you don't seem like an individual I want to communicate with anymore.

AV1611VET · Tuesday at 7:15 PM

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
Whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm putting you onto my IGNORE list since you don't seem like an individual I want to communicate with anymore.

sjastro · Tuesday at 7:20 PM

Here is a picture of what is believed to be a cat.

Should we believe it is a cat as the image was taken by a scientist and not a member of the public who is considered much more trustworthy.
Maybe it's a dog disguised as a cat, there is no audio to suggest in meows which reinforces the suspicion it barks and scientists are cross dressing pagans intent in taking over the world with the next step of demoting the Earth of its planetary status.

Similar logic has been employed in this thread...................

Warden_of_the_Storm · Tuesday at 7:28 PM

AV1611VET said:

WHAT?

AV1611VET · Tuesday at 7:57 PM

sjastro said:
Here is a picture of what is believed to be a cat.

Here is a picture of what was once believed to be a man.

Should we believe it is a man as the image was labeled Hesperopithecus haroldcookii and was a member of a tribe who was once considered a predecessor of Homo sapiens?

Maybe it was a peccary disguised as a man, there was no audio to suggest it barked and scientists were white-coat evolutionists intent on taking over the solar system with the next step of demoting Pluto of its planetary status?

AV1611VET · Tuesday at 8:00 PM

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
WHAT?

Putting someone on IGNORE because you don't like his posts.

Warden_of_the_Storm · Tuesday at 8:03 PM

AV1611VET said:
Putting someone on IGNORE because you don't like his posts.

I didn't like him spreading libel and falsehoods unrepenantly and adding insults too, but sure, we'll childishly simplify it to me not liking his posts.

AV1611VET · Tuesday at 8:16 PM

Warden_of_the_Storm said:
I didn't like him spreading libel and falsehoods unrepenantly and adding insults too, but sure, we'll childishly simplify it to me not liking his posts.

Okie doke.

I just don't think putting people on IGNORE is going to solve anything.

I've done it a couple times, myself, but always end up taking them off.

Bradskii · Tuesday at 10:37 PM

I thought this might be interesting. But I'm not going to wade through so much of the usual dross by the usual suspect(s) who is drawn to threads like this.

First and last post...

AV1611VET · Tuesday at 11:03 PM

Bradskii said:
I thought this might be interesting. But I'm not going to wade through so much of the usual dross by the usual suspect(s) who is drawn to threads like this.

First and last post...

Wade right in, the water's warm!

Hans Blaster · Tuesday at 11:18 PM

AV1611VET said:
I have a very good question to ask:

How much time elapsed from the time that photo was taken, to when it was disseminated to the public, along with a description of what it is and what it's been doing?

The archive numbers are in the posted/linked paper and the data archive is available through this link:

ESO - Archive Home

ESO is the European Organisation for Astronomical Research in the Southern Hemisphere. It operates the La Silla Paranal Observatory in Chile and has its headquarters in Garching, near Munich, Germany.

archive.eso.org

For all of your whinging about astronomers, they sure do make their data available quite regularly and have done so for a very long time. Now back to your void.

Hans Blaster · Tuesday at 11:45 PM

Unqualified said:
pretty close To the star .

The planet (WISPIT 2b) orbits 55 AU from the star (WISPIT 2), which is further from than Pluto orbits the Sun.

Unqualified said:
Why it’s so bright.

Large, massive planets (this one is 5x the mass of Jupiter) have a lot of heat of formation to radiate away as they contract gravitationally.

Unqualified said:
Thanks for the info on Gods wonderful creation. Are you a follower of intelligent design at least or randomness in evolution.

No, but biology doesn't have anything to do with planet formation.

Unqualified said:
So the planet must be made from the stars …. Hydrogen?

Planets form from the gas and dust left over from star formation that forms a disk around the star. For massive planets like this one it can contain large amounts of hydrogen and helium, but it may have formed around a clump of dust or ice like the solid planets in our solar system.

Unqualified said:
And it is just now moved away enough to be seen.

We see it now because we looked now. The ability to see planets like this is quite new. While planets do migrate through interactions with other planets in and out, planets don't emerge from stars. They form and remain outside of their stars.

Unqualified said:
But it seems you’re think ing it is giving more info about the birth of planets.

It does. Astronomers continue to observe forming star systems like this to better understand how planets form and planetary systems evolve.

Unqualified said:
If earth was the same- hydrogen how did it ever get to be organic.

The Earth formed inside the "frost line" like all of the rocky planets. It contains very little of the volatile elements like hydrogen and helium, and is made mostly of the non-volatile materials like dust (including organic material), rock, and metals. All of the elements that make of the Earth were formed in earlier generations of stars and mixed into gases that condensed to make the Sun and solar system.

Unqualified said:
Oh I see from the primordial ooze.

No primordial ooze involved in planet and star formation. Gas and dust.

Unqualified said:
The sun is decaying into what-a hole. Thats for your informative answer.

It isn't decaying.

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