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Police Believe CDC Shooter Thought COVID Vaccine Made Him Sick: Report

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The shooter in the deadly gunfire near the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) headquarters on Friday thought he was sick from the COVID vaccine, a law enforcement source told CNN.

Police are operating under this theory, the outlet reported.

CNN reported that police are operating under the reported theory regarding the COVID vaccine after speaking with the shooter's family Friday night.

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More on incident

Authorities say both a suspected active shooter and a police officer were killed in a gunfight outside an Emory Point CVS, near the CDC and Emory University campus, on Friday afternoon.

During the incident, the suspect fired multiple rounds at the CDC building, breaking windows, Atlanta Police Chief Darin Schierbaum said.

The CDC, Emory University, and Emory University Hospital were quickly placed on lockdown, along with several nearby smaller schools and daycares.

The shooter was armed with a long gun, and authorities recovered three additional firearms at the scene, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the ongoing investigation.

 

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Friday’s attack was carried out by a shooter who’d been reaching out for mental health assistance for weeks, CDC leaders say

Leaders told staffers, many of whom work in the agency’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, the attack was carried out by a shooter who had been reaching out for mental health assistance for weeks before the incident but had not made any threats ahead of time, according to two sources who spoke on the condition they not be named.

After speaking with family members of the suspect, police are operating under the hypothesis he was either sick or believed he was sick and blamed the illness on the Covid-19 vaccine, a law enforcement official told CNN.

The shooting occurred the same week US Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. – a longtime critic of Covid vaccinations, with a history of spreading vaccine misinformation – announced the cancellation of a half-billion dollars in investments in mRNA projects.

“Let me be absolutely clear: HHS supports safe, effective vaccines for every American who wants them. That’s why we’re moving beyond the limitations of mRNA and investing in better solutions,” said Secretary Kennedy.
 
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The shooting occurred the same week US Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. – a longtime critic of Covid vaccinations, with a history of spreading vaccine misinformation – announced the cancellation of a half-billion dollars in investments in mRNA projects.

“Let me be absolutely clear: HHS supports safe, effective vaccines for every American who wants them. That’s why we’re moving beyond the limitations of mRNA and investing in better solutions,” said Secretary Kennedy.

As a retired physician, I can only wonder how RFK, Jr. has had any training in health care and medical science that would qualify him for HEW Secretary. mRNA vaccines are regularly updated by the manufacturers to provide a degree of immunity to whatever COVID-19 viral strains are immanent. I was a test subject back in 2020 when COVID was first recognized, and mRNA vaccines had just been developed. Other than a sore arm for a few days, I had no side effects. And I've since had regular boosters to cover newly recognized strains. Again, with no side effects. The link (from Yale Medicine) has information regarding the efficacy of the various current mRNA vaccines.

Comparing the COVID-19 Vaccines: How Are They Different?

Let's not forget that the White House Rose Garden back in 2020 became a superspreader zone, since Pres. Trump had little knowledge or concern of how serious COVID-19 could be. And he himself got quite sick and was hospitalized at Walter Reed. He recovered after 3 days, but his degree of illness was withheld from news sources. The NYT article is interesting (though it may be behind a pay wall.)

 
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As a retired physician, I can only wonder how RFK, Jr. has had any training in health care and medical science that would qualify him for HEW Secretary. mRNA vaccines are regularly updated by the manufacturers to provide a degree of immunity to whatever COVID-19 viral strains are immanent. I was a test subject back in 2020 when COVID was first recognized, and mRNA vaccines had just been developed. Other than a sore arm for a few days, I had no side effects. And I've since had regular boosters to cover newly recognized strains. Again, with no side effects. The link (from Yale Medicine) has information regarding the efficacy of the various current mRNA vaccines.

Comparing the COVID-19 Vaccines: How Are They Different?

Let's not forget that the White House Rose Garden back in 2020 became a superspreader zone, since Pres. Trump had little knowledge or concern of how serious COVID-19 could be. And he himself got quite sick and was hospitalized at Walter Reed. He recovered after 3 days, but his degree of illness was withheld from news sources. The NYT article is interesting (though it may be behind a pay wall.)



...but it is still quite possible that he was someone who was impacted negatively by it.

Obviously shooting up the place is an unacceptable reaction to it, but now that we can have more honest discussions about it without risk of ending up getting banned:


Disclosure: Source CDC - aggregated by Claude (anthropic)

Serious Adverse Events (Rare)​

Side EffectRate per Million DosesEstimated Total Cases (US)SeverityRecovery Rate
Anaphylaxis5 per million~3,350 casesSevere but treatableNear 100% with prompt treatment
Myocarditis40 per million*~26,800 casesMild to moderate80% fully recovered
Pericarditis40 per million*~26,800 casesMild to moderate80% fully recovered
TTS (J&J only)40 per million J&J doses~600-800 cases totalSevereVariable
Guillain-Barré Syndrome2 per million~1,340 casesModerate to severeVariable
*Higher rates in young males (16-30 years) after 2nd mRNA dose


Common Side Effects (Not Serious)​

Side EffectPercentage of RecipientsEstimated Cases (US)Severity
Pain at injection site80-90%~180-200 millionMild
Fatigue60-70%~135-157 millionMild to moderate
Headache50-60%~112-135 millionMild to moderate
Muscle pain40-50%~90-112 millionMild
Fever15-20%~34-45 millionMild to moderate
Chills30-40%~67-90 millionMild



If we ignore the "common - not serious" stuff which we all pretty much had and just focus on the serious stuff and just focus on the serious stuff, there's still some people who were negatively impacted by it. (and notice I'm not using VAERS as a source, I've actually been highly critical of using that source when anti-vaxxers try to leverage it)


By the more conservative CDC estimates, there are 50-100K people out there who had a bad experience with it.

And society "did them dirty" when they tried to get help if we're being honest.

A person did what society (and the government) told them was "the right thing to do for the rest of society", they unfortunate enough to have a bad reaction to it, and when they try to get some sort of help/reconciliation for that situation, they're either

- told "sorry, but you signed the waiver"
- told "it's all in your head, you're just paranoid from what you read online"
- try to share your story in a support group online, and get flagged and banned
or
- flat out told by doctors "nah, it can't be from that, this is the safest vaccine in the history of safety and vaccines, go home and don't waste our time"


It's 2025 and nobody really takes the topic that seriously anymore, but I think memories are short term on this, and people are forgetting just how crazy things were back in 2020-2021.

While I never had any bad experiences with the Pfizer doses (I had 3 of them, bailed on the boosters after that due to getting a covid case 3 weeks after dose 3, and wasn't convinced they still worked all that well so decided "what's the point?"), I do know a few people who had heart issues after doses 2 and beyond, and they certainly weren't "right wing nutters" or "conspiracy theorists" by any stretch of the imagination, and had to go to multiple doctors before someone would take them seriously.


In one case, a person who was an avid runner in their 30's with impeccable results at their physicals prior, and is still stuck dealing with sporadic chest pains and still takes blood pressure medication.

Obviously I can't say definitively that it was the vaccine that caused it, I'm not a doctor...but if a person in their 30's with pristine numbers, 155lbs, a stellar diet, and a distance runner starts having episodes where their blood pressure goes north of 160/90, and their resting heart rate is 105bpm (after years of never having those problems), that should at least be worth looking into.

Instead, when they went to both Cleveland Clinic and UH, it was chalked up to anxiety, and they were basically condescended to and chastised for "wasting our time".
 
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One neighbor, who asked not to be named, said White would sit on her porch for long stretches, often complaining that after he got the COVID-19 shot, he had lost a lot of weight, developed problems swallowing and gastrointestinal issues. And, the neighbor said he believed the media and government weren't covering it.

"He thought the vaccines were killing him and that people needed to know the truth," the neighbor said, adding that she didn't agree with him, but would listen.

Long-term adverse reactions to the COVID-19 vaccines are generally very rare, according to the CDC.

DeKalb County Police Officer David Rose was fatally shot after responding to the reported gunfire.

He was taken to the hospital in critical condition, where he was pronounced dead, officials said at a press conference Friday evening.
 
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As a retired physician, I can only wonder how RFK, Jr. has had any training in health care and medical science that would qualify him for HEW Secretary. mRNA vaccines are regularly updated by the manufacturers to provide a degree of immunity to whatever COVID-19 viral strains are immanent. I was a test subject back in 2020 when COVID was first recognized, and mRNA vaccines had just been developed. Other than a sore arm for a few days, I had no side effects. And I've since had regular boosters to cover newly recognized strains. Again, with no side effects. The link (from Yale Medicine) has information regarding the efficacy of the various current mRNA vaccines.

Comparing the COVID-19 Vaccines: How Are They Different?

Let's not forget that the White House Rose Garden back in 2020 became a superspreader zone, since Pres. Trump had little knowledge or concern of how serious COVID-19 could be. And he himself got quite sick and was hospitalized at Walter Reed. He recovered after 3 days, but his degree of illness was withheld from news sources. The NYT article is interesting (though it may be behind a pay wall.)


He's got a doctorate in bro science. That's worth alot now days on social media, apparently.
 
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CDC union demands Trump officials condemn disinformation after shooting

  • A local division of the American Federation of Government Employees union said the incident "is not random and it compounds months of mistreatment, neglect, and vilification that CDC staff have endured."
The deliberate targeting of CDC through this violent act is deeply disturbing, completely unacceptable, and an attack on every public servant," the union said. "It was motivated by vaccine disinformation, which continues to pose a dangerous threat to public health and safety."
 
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