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Oklahoma’s MAGA superintendent who demanded Bibles in class faces investigation after TV in his office shows naked women

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If attendees of the meeting reported the incident as sexual harassment, it could result in a criminal investigation.

Current sexual harassment policies are strict. For example, if an employee displays a provocative picture, such as a celebrity dressed suggestively, in the employee breakroom, it may be considered sexual harassment, even if the image is not nude.

Thats still not typically criminal. Sexual harassment is policy oriented or may also be a civil violation in some states who may have a government beurocracy that handles that. and not criminal.
 
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I think we all know that certain individuals would prefer to see Walters and his Church of Christ oriented valuation of the Bible go to the wayside where public education is concerned in Oklahoma. His possible moral missteps might be his own undoing. But we'll see how this case progresses over the next few weeks.

While I wouldn't mind seeing some emphasis upon the Bible in public classrooms, I don't go in for a politically ultra-right leaning mode by which to do that, let alone create classroom scenarios where students have no choice but to be indoctrinated with religious views they and their families may not agree with.

At the same time, I don't want to see the opposite of what Walter's is promoting ideologically installed instead, without caveats, in public classrooms either. I don't think students benefit from a curriculum that is dependent upon hyper-polarized political agendas from either the Right or the Left. Skills in Critical Thinking and Social Civility are what students need most, not uncertain biblical interpretations OR .......... critical theory.
It's not about Christian doctrine, it's about American Exceptionalism.
 
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It's not about Christian doctrine, it's about American Exceptionalism.

You have to understand the mentality of Hyper-Fundamentalism, BCP. It's not only American Exceptionalism that's at work here, although that myth plays a part in the political thinking of those who are religious on the Right.
 
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Oklahoma County DA calls for the OSBI to help determine whether a crime occurred (and provide greater confidence if it turns out no criminal act took place).

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Well thanks for your knowledgeable response. What crime is being h investigated?
It's more like the investigation is being conducted to determine if a crime of any kind has been committed. Walters is basically saying he was framed, so that's likely going to be part of the investigation. Accessing an office and accessing a device without authorization can fall into breaking and entering and or trespassing territory. Probably especially since it's a government facility.
 
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Well you'd think someone could say. "We are looking into it to see IF a crime was committed" sounds like a witch hunt.

Why isnt someone, like any journalist, looking into it to see what possible crime it might be. Its not that hard. If there are crimes on the books that say it's a criminal offense to have nudity on a device in a school, then say that.

Im telling you, something us wrong here. I'm beginning to wonder if people aren't saying because they think its more damning to the man simply to say "hes under criminal investigation". Cause if they actually had to say what he's under investigation for people would realize he actually didn't do anything criminal.

Apparently, at least one of the possible laws that Ryan Walters may have broken is "Improperly exhibitions--obscene material," 21 Okl.St.Ann. § 1021. The relevant part of the law appears to be, "A. Every person who willfully and knowingly either: 4...exhibits any disc record, metal, plastic, or wax, wire or tape recording, or any type of obscene material or child sexual abuse material, shall be guilty, upon conviction, of a felony and shall be punished by the imposition of a fine of not less than Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00) nor more than Twenty Thousand Dollars ($20,000.00) or by imprisonment for not less than thirty (30) days nor more than ten (10) years, or by both such fine and imprisonment."

It appears that, if found guilty, it would be on the lighter side of the punishment since, from what we know, there were no children who observed it. This is what I found from a relatively quick search, there may be other laws that may fit what happened. I'm guessing it is the opposite of your speculation -- that they don't want to point to a specific law Walters broke to "protect" him from being associated with a specific crime. Too often, just the investigation into a specific sex crime is enough to tarnish a person's reputation, even if later cleared of wrongdoing.
 
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Oklahoma County DA calls for the OSBI to help determine whether a crime occurred (and provide greater confidence if it turns out no criminal act took place).

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Thanks for that. So apparently improperly showing obscene material is the crime in Oklahoma they are investigating.
 
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Thanks for that. So apparently improperly showing obscene material is the crime in Oklahoma they are investigating.
That seems unlikely to me. The standard for legal obscenity is quite high. Though I believe the law recognizes 'local standards'. Maybe Oklahomans faint at the sight of nekkid women.

Like I said, I'm content to let the authorities do their thing, but I imagine something more along the lines of improper use of government property.
 
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That seems unlikely to me. The standard for legal obscenity is quite high. Though I believe the law recognizes 'local standards'. Maybe Oklahomans faint at the sight of nekkid women.

Like I said, I'm content to let the authorities do their thing, but I imagine something more along the lines of improper use of government property.

Yes, and local standards in Oklahoma will be quite high (or low -- basically, not allowing nudity). First, nude strip clubs are technically illegal; you can have dancers in a bar, they must not be nude (nipples and genitals must be covered). Second, even possession of pornography is illegal in Oklahoma. While I doubt that just nude women would be viewed as pornographic, so not be illegal to possess (which would make some R-rated movies illegal to own or view), there would still be an argument that it violates local obscenity standards.
 
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My late atheist friend, may she rest in peace, always said the more a person screams about their moral superiority, the more they have to hide.

It’s true.
 
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