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How does the idea that most of Gods creation he will have to burn forever bring glory to God?

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God's justice is glorified in the punishment of the wicked.
Not quite sure of what you trying to relate to me. Since you wrote Bible quote under God's justice is glorified in the punishment of the wicked. And the scriptures you gave says in a nutshell that God delights and those who serve him.
 
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Not quite sure of what you trying to relate to me. Since you wrote Bible quote under God's justice is glorified in the punishment of the wicked.
Regarding my post #200, I didn't write anything under those words.
And the scriptures you gave says in a nutshell that God delights and those who serve him.
Nor did I cite any Scriptures.
 
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Regarding my post #200, I didn't write anything under those words.

Nor did I give any Scriptures.
To recite scripture is to give scripture and you recited scripture and started it with saying this is what the Lord says

okay

Goodby
 
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Sorry lexicons are meaningless to you. . .explains a lot.
Nice dodge, but I've long since learned to pay little or no heed to amateur linguists who cite what the different scruptures "really mean" to cancel out Scriptures they find don't square with their doctrine. I'm looking at a dozen or so translations here (ain't 'puters wonderful?) that all use the word "destroy". I assume that most of the folks who did those translations had at least a nodding acquantance with Koine Greek, so U'll go with them, and a fig for both your lexicon and your pernicious doctrine.
 
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God's justice is glorified in the punishment of the wicked.
If by "justice" you mean infinite torture for finite offenses. That;s the problerm, isn't it? The whole idea that presenting God as a merciless fiend whose anger and hatred are literally endless as somehow "just" is to render the concept of "justice" meaningless. "Praise the Lord, whose malice endures forever". "For the wages of sin is is eternal life in the most horrific imaginable torture." Sounds more like the religion of Mohammed than that of Jesus Christ.
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It doesn't matter your guy's arguing over different words, because it is as I told you earlier, some were just never meant to go beyond this, and while they might go to sleep, or be stored for a while, or for very, very long periods of time, their original programs are reset and then brought back up again (or reinserted) in other places that are still fallen, and are still in need of those kinds of programs, and everything is eternal (as far as we can know right now anyway, etc). So it is eternal torment basically, even though they are never aware of it each time they are doing it each time, etc. But it is not like that for the rest of us who were always meant to get to go beyond this here after this, or who were always meant to get to go beyond these kinds of (fallen) existences or realities here ever, but those are also eternal, etc, but it's just that new ones are added all of the time, etc, but that's not true for all of them and/or everybody (each and every single time, or all of the time, etc) (And so it depends on your own perspective on how you view the rest of them really, etc).

God Bless.
 
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So you can’t answer. Its ok. It’s a hard question.
What you are claiming is that only believers love, which is of course patent absurdity
 
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What you are claiming is that only believers love, which is of course patent absurdity
Actually no. Your argument is not with me but with scripture.

You claimed:

John advised us in 1 John 4:7 that everyone who loves knows God and is born of God. Bam. Nailed it right there.
I merely posted the verse that followed the one you posted because it unnails your conclusion.
Does everyone love?

“The one who does not love does not know God, because God is love.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭4‬:‭8‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬
Some love some don’t.
 
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Nice dodge, but I've long since learned to pay little or no heed to amateur linguists who cite what the different scruptures "really mean"
Not what a lexiocon does. . .

Explains a lot.
 
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If by "justice" you mean infinite torture for finite offenses. That;' the problerm, isn't it?
Actually, that is not the problem.

The problem is yours, and it is with Jesus in Mk 9:43-48, which you do not address.

And that's above my pay grade.
 
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Actually no. Your argument is not with me but with scripture
Old canard doesn't play
I merely posted the verse that followed the one you posted because it unnails your conclusion
1 John 4:8 unclaims 1 John 4:7?

funny conclusion on your part only

Since all people are God's children You'd be hard pressed to find a single person who hasn't loved in some way at some time, bottom line
 
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You'd be hard pressed to find a single person who hasn't loved in some way at some time, bottom line
Spend enough time in the world and you'll eventually learn that a lot of people's love was never really ever truly genuine. That's why Jesus had to set the true example, etc.

God Bless.
 
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