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Oklahoma’s MAGA superintendent who demanded Bibles in class faces investigation after TV in his office shows naked women

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You dont know if he was involved in sinful behavior. That kind of attitude is what the Pharisees had. They loved to accuse. No one here is defending sin. People aren't willing to jump on the "hes a hypocrite sinner" bandwagon until we have all facts.

Maybe he is. Maybe he's addicted to 60s porn. I don't know. Maybe he is leading a double life and is a total hypocrite. I don't know. And neither do you. There is an awful lot of judgementlism going on without all the facts. Why don't we wait before rebuking rhe man until we know what really was going on.

A I know is I would like not to be smeared or judged over something that I didn't do.
Nonsense that witch should be immediately burned at the stake. :fire:
 
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Walters falsely claims investigators cleared him in nude images investigation, ignores questions seeking clarity

On Tuesday—days after two state school board members said they saw nude images of women playing on a TV in state Superintendent Ryan Walters’ office—Walters denied any wrongdoing and falsely claimed investigators had cleared him.

He also accused Governor Stitt of orchestrating the entire thing as a “character assassination,” but refused to answer reporters’ questions seeking clarity and evidence to back his claims.

On Friday, the Oklahoma Office of Management and Enterprise Services (OMES) opened an investigation.

News 4 reported that OMES asked the Oklahoma County Sheriff’s Office (OCSO) to begin a criminal investigation Monday.

That's sorta the opposite of being cleared.
 
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Walters falsely claims investigators cleared him in nude images investigation, ignores questions seeking clarity

On Tuesday—days after two state school board members said they saw nude images of women playing on a TV in state Superintendent Ryan Walters’ office—Walters denied any wrongdoing and falsely claimed investigators had cleared him.

He also accused Governor Stitt of orchestrating the entire thing as a “character assassination,” but refused to answer reporters’ questions seeking clarity and evidence to back his claims.

On Friday, the Oklahoma Office of Management and Enterprise Services (OMES) opened an investigation.

News 4 reported that OMES asked the Oklahoma County Sheriff’s Office (OCSO) to begin a criminal investigation Monday.

That's sorta the opposite of being cleared.
Seeing as how he didn't commit a discernible crime, he himself probably isn't under investigation. Governor Stitt might be though.
 
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You dont know if he was involved in sinful behavior. That kind of attitude is what the Pharisees had. They loved to accuse. No one here is defending sin. People aren't willing to jump on the "hes a hypocrite sinner" bandwagon until we have all facts.

Maybe he is. Maybe he's addicted to 60s porn. I don't know. Maybe he is leading a double life and is a total hypocrite. I don't know. And neither do you. There is an awful lot of judgementlism going on without all the facts. Why don't we wait before rebuking rhe man until we know what really was going on.

A I know is I would like not to be smeared or judged over something that I didn't do.
Walters was quick to make nasty claims about the two that saw it, was defensive and did not apologize about the stuff on his TV screen to those in his office. He just attacks their character.
It is his own reaction that makes him look bad. If he had said, "Holy cow, where is that from" and want it off immediately and apologized to others for them having been exposed to it and said he would look into how it happened, I would think he was innocent.
 
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Maybe we'll let the Sheriff sort that out first.
Yeah there might be some obscure law regarding being in the possession of 1960s pinups. Wasn't there a guy who got 5 to 10 for his Betty Grable collection?
 
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Walters was quick to make nasty claims about the two that saw it, was defensive and did not apologize about the stuff on his TV screen to those in his office. He just attacks their character.
It is his own reaction that makes him look bad. If he had said, "Holy cow, where is that from" and want it off immediately and apologized to others for them having been exposed to it and said he would look into how it happened, I would think he was innocent.
Sounds like they have a bad history so maybe he immediately suspected them.
 
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Yeah there might be some obscure law regarding being in the possession of 1960s pinups. Wasn't there a guy who got 5 to 10 for his Betty Grable collection?
No said they were pin ups or from WWII. Looks like an attempt to derail from the fact that this happened at work in the OK State of Education office in an executive meeting.
 
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Are you suggesting that viewing, collecting, possessing nude picture is acceptable as long as it does not involve lust or gratification? Are you implying that it would be appropriate for young boys and girls to view or own images featuring nudity as long as lust is not involve because similar nudity existing in Sistine Chaple?
If he ain't, I am, even if it does. There is a time and place for nudity.

This does not mean, however, that I would be "fine" if, as someone suggested, he were to come over to my house and wave his "junk" in my face. Nor do I find it appropriate for the workplace - most workplaces, anyhoo, as there are obviously acceptions.
 
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Yeah there might be some obscure law regarding being in the possession of 1960s pinups. Wasn't there a guy who got 5 to 10 for his Betty Grable collection?
Are you mistaking actress Betty Grable (known for her legs) for model Bettie Page (known for her nudes)?
 
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again .. same thing ..whataboutsim.

Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

That scripture is certainly applicable IF he did something wrong. You don't know if he did or didn't yet.

That is not justice. That is judgmentalism. Once you KNOW that he did wrong then you may rebuke him. Until then, you are behaving like a Pharisee who.liked to judge people.
 
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Walters was quick to make nasty claims about the two that saw it, was defensive and did not apologize about the stuff on his TV screen to those in his office. He just attacks their character.
It is his own reaction that makes him look bad. If he had said, "Holy cow, where is that from" and want it off immediately and apologized to others for them having been exposed to it and said he would look into how it happened, I would think he was innocent.

He's not you. He may be just really frustrated over being falsely accused. People don't always respond with kindness and understanding.

But I don't know. All I know is people are judging the man without all facts.

I wouldnt want that to happen to me.
 
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No said they were pin ups or from WWII. Looks like an attempt to derail from the fact that this happened at work in the OK State of Education office in an executive meeting.
The crux of my post is that it is not a crime. It is not illegal. No law was broken. That's just reality no matter how offended one might be over it. If looking at naked people on a screen was illegal, watching R rated movies would be against the law. It can be called highly inappropriate. He could get fired for it. But it wasn't a criminal offence.
 
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The crux of my post is that it is not a crime. It is not illegal. No law was broken. That's just reality no matter how offended one might be over it. If looking at naked people on a screen was illegal, watching R rated movies would be against the law. It can be called highly inappropriate. He could get fired for it. But it wasn't a criminal offence.
No, he was just pranked. Whether he downloaded the pictures himself and somebody spilled the beans or whether they were hacked in doesn't really matter. The guy is a pompous twit and deserved the jab. Just relax, sit back and enjoy the fun.
 
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The crux of my post is that it is not a crime. It is not illegal. No law was broken. That's just reality no matter how offended one might be over it. If looking at naked people on a screen was illegal, watching R rated movies would be against the law. It can be called highly inappropriate. He could get fired for it. But it wasn't a criminal offence.
The OP (me) did not say it is a crime. You made a strawman.
It is a problem that it was at his workplace. Then it is also hypocritical considering some of his demands.
 
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The OP (me) did not say it is a crime. You made a strawman.
It is a problem that it was at his workplace. Then it is also hypocritical considering some of his demands.
My post was in response to the person I was replying to. I said no crime had been committed by Walters regarding the sheriff dept. investigation. He challenged that. So I responded to that challenge. Since the sheriff department is investigating, that means there is a suspected crime. So crime does fit into this.
 
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