Joy Behar reveals The View is going on hiatus day after White House calls for it to be canceled

Tropical Wilds said:

A rumor started on Facebook, reported on by a gossip rag, then spread back on Facebook.

Colbert came out and said it wasn’t true and if it were he would have been cancelled eons ago.

Breaking down claim CBS was losing $40M a year on Colbert's 'Late Show'

Rumors about the $40 million annual losses appeared to stem from reports published by a media outlet called Puck and the New York Post.

www.snopes.com

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Read snopes. It was money. Two CBS staff implied it was political because they never offered salary reductions. That is how low this thing sunk to make it political. Why pay less? Keep losing more and more instead of using that slot for a more popular program? Losing audience is major. What a dumb excuse.

ralliann said:

Read snopes. It was money. Two CBS staff implied it was political because they never offered salary reductions. That is how low this thing sunk to make it political. Why pay less? Keep losing more and more instead of using that slot for a more popular program? Losing audience is major. What a dumb excuse.

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I did read Snopes. They said the “CBS staff” are unverified, untraceable, and not able to back their info. I could be the “CBS staff.”

ThatRobGuy said:

If you recall, it wasn't just the covid stuff, they got quite a bit of mileage out of that "misinformation justifies censorship" schtick.

While Covid was the bulk of it (attempts to censor theories about lab leaks, censoring content that suggested that natural immunity was effective, posts describing side effects, etc...)

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Im not even saying that the covid censorship attempts where govt applied pressure were justified. Im just saying that censorship based on sheer partisan support is a whole other level of problem for the republic. In fact, if successful enough, its kind of the end of the republic.

ThatRobGuy said:

There was also the Hunter Biden laptop fiasco...

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Honestly I could never keep track of who did what there.

ThatRobGuy said:

.....shadow bans occurring if people posted things that were critical of mail-in voting.....

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Sounds like private side censorship, which is completely permissible.

ThatRobGuy said:

Censorship of anecdotes was a thing as well... Where if a person had an anecdote (even if that experience was an extreme outlier), it was a "better censor it out of fears that readers will think that sort of thing is more common than what it is".

Also, where we'd disagree... I don't think any kind of emergency should justify that kind of censorship.

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Id have to run more thought experiments to come to a proper conclusion on that one. Also, I think that was mostly private side censorship. Their property, their call.

ThatRobGuy said:

Perhaps in a different world with honest and sincere politicians, one could make a case for that with me and win me over, but that's not the world we live in. We live in the one where if they find out the rules are "As long as we claim something is an emergency, we can suspend certain rights or make changes that we wouldn't be able to do with the proper channels", they will use it to their full advantage.

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We sure are seeing a lot of fake "emergencies" being declared to justify various executive powers that ordinarily wouldn't accrue. I think covid was real tho. Just ask anyone who worked in a hospital setting at the time. In many ways it was a botched trial run for something much worse. But I dont think we can generalize from it to any conceivable pandemic or other disaster.

durangodawood said:

We sure are seeing a lot of fake "emergencies" being declared to justify various executive powers that ordinarily wouldn't accrue. I think covid was real tho. Just ask anyone who worked in a hospital setting at the time. In many ways it was a botched trial run for something much worse. But I dont think we can generalize from it to any conceivable pandemic or other disaster.

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I'm not denying the reality of covid, I was never of that ilk -- I was merely critical of some of the measures and mandates.

Bernie Sanders stated:
“If there is anything that I hope we achieve in the midst of this unprecedented moment … it’s that we use this moment to rethink … some of the basic tenets and institutions of American society … so that we move this country in a very, very different direction.”

Obviously then they used the "emergency" nature of covid to push for things like eviction moratoriums, justification for forgiving student loans, and social safety net expansions that they'd been previously unable to pass via normal legislative process.